What is Value Room at AKV????

[LisaS]

How big is a one bedroom at say BCV or BWV?

My guide gave me some figures for BWV and SSR for comparison. I don't have any info about villa sizes at BCV.

BWV 1BR: 814sf, Studio: 412sf
SSR 1BR: 714sf, Studio: 355sf

 

[SuzanneSLO]

Suzanne- Did you add in the suites to your calculations? The Pres. and VP suites are on the 5th. I also would not be surprised to find out that all the 1 bedroom suites were on the 5th. I know at least some are. I think that there is only 1 one bedroom on the 5th. IF all the 2 bedroom suites are on the 5th, 1 one bedroom and the VP and Pres suites then that would be equilivent to ~46 more rooms.

Lisa: I didn't count any suites even though I assumed some of them were probably on the 5th floor. Anyone think that these might be converted to Grand Villas? That woudl be consistent with giving a price for GVs in 2007 and 2008.

That, of course, would throw the numbers I added together off, but it was weird how converting 3 deluxes to a 2 BR and adding the number of dedicated studios added up to exactly the number of rooms in the first phase.

--Suzanne

 

[Dean]

My guide gave me some figures for BWV and SSR for comparison. I don't have any info about villa sizes at BCV.

BWV 1BR: 814sf, Studio: 412sf
SSR 1BR: 714sf, Studio: 355sf

The numbers come from the website and they are wrong for BWV. BCV. VWL and BWV are all essentially the same.

 

[PrincessJasmine08]

The numbers come from the website and they are wrong for BWV. BCV. VWL and BWV are all essentially the same.

And what is that essentially the same number? I am just trying to figure out how much bigger the new AKV one bedrooms are.

 

[SuzanneSLO]

According to the Unofficial Guide:

SSR: S -- 355 sf; 1BR -- 714; 2BR -- 1075; GV -- 2113
BCV: S -- 356; 1BR -- 726; 2BR -- 1083
VWL: S -- 356; 1BR -- 727; 2BR -- 1080; GV -- 2202
BWV: S -- 412; 1BR -- 814; 2BR -- 1236; GV -- 2491
OKW: S -- 376; 1Br -- 942; 2BR -- 1333; GV -- 2202

-- Suzanne

 

[spiceycat]

According to the Unofficial Guide:

SSR: S -- 355 sf; 1BR -- 714; 2BR -- 1075; GV -- 2113
BCV: S -- 356; 1BR -- 726; 2BR -- 1083
VWL: S -- 356; 1BR -- 727; 2BR -- 1080; GV -- 2202
BWV: S -- 412; 1BR -- 814; 2BR -- 1236; GV -- 2491
OKW: S -- 376; 1Br -- 942; 2BR -- 1333; GV -- 2202

-- Suzanne

those aren't right either - at least BWV s - is wrong.

OKW is definitely bigger than BWV studio.

for some reason they use the BWV studio dedicated for both the studio and -1bedroom and added those together for 2-bedroom - when the 2-bedroom can't be two dedicated

here is the one for the lock off
BoardWalk Villas Studio - 359
BoardWalk Villas One-Bedroom - 712
BoardWalk Villas Two-Bedroom - 1071

Disney is doing the same thing so it is just not Unofficial. Disney hasn't read the public offering either.

not laughing at you - just Disney and unofficial who didn't take the time to read the PO that DVC put out with each and every DVC resort.

these agencies will again with AKV only use the higher (never the lower - even when it is closer to the majority of units) sq ft.

 

[LisaS]

here is the one for the lock off
BoardWalk Villas Studio - 359
BoardWalk Villas One-Bedroom - 712
BoardWalk Villas Two-Bedroom - 1071

But if those are the correct numbers, then the numbers for the other resorts are wrong too because there is no way that the BWV 1BRs are the smallest of all the resorts.

I've only been in 1BRs at OKW, BWV and SSR but just looking at the 360-degree tours, you can see how much open floorspace remains with the furniture in place and there is no way BWVs have the smallest 1BRs.

ETA: I guess now in addition to pool thermometers, we all have to bring tape measures so we can provide accurate measurements of the size of the villas!

 

[JodyTG]

okay am I the only one who really, really wants to see these things?

when are they opening the models?

You're not the only one spicey. I want to at least see the layout of the rooms, since they're going to be different than the others.

 

[SuzanneSLO]

I think the confusion about BWV comes from the dedicated studio units which are supposed to be 412 sf. But the BWV offering documents clearly state that the BWV 2BR lockoffs are 1226 sf, but I agree that they don't appear to be larger than those at SSR.

By the way, I think we are going to find out that the "larger" units at AKV is just an urban myth fueled by the reported higher occupancy. The disclosure documents show a 2BR lockoff to be 1075 sf, exactly the size of a similar unit at SSR. Replace the chair in the corner of the MB in SSR, BCV, BWV or VWL with a fold-out sleeper chair and you will have the same occupancy as reported for AKV.

-- Suzanne

 

[kdzgon]

...
Based on information made publicly available, there will be 134 AKV rooms in the current AKL building on the 5th and 6th floor. Base dont eh allearsnet inof, there are 33 deluxe pool view rooms, 191 savannah view and 55 deluxe concierge, for a total of 279 deluxe rooms. If you assume that a 2 BR lockoff will consist of 3 deluxe rooms combined, then there will be 93 2br lockoffs as follows: 11 pool view; about 64 savannah view; and about 18 former concierge (with mostly savannah but also some pool views).....

--Suzanne

According to my guide, there will be 10 concierge rooms total (max); 5 studios and 5 1 BR OR if all are used as 2 BR lock-offs at once, effectively 5 concierge rooms.

Any math wizards out there? As there are only 35,000 points avail right now, doesn't that convert to estimated available room availability?

 

[spiceycat]

But if those are the correct numbers, then the numbers for the other resorts are wrong too because there is no way that the BWV 1BRs are the smallest of all the resorts.

EITA: I guess now in addition to pool thermometers, we all have to bring tape measures so we can provide accurate measurements of the size of the villas!

BWV and AKV have something in common - not every room is the same size.

I have been in the dedicated studio and lock out studio - believe me the dedicated is bigger.

I felt the livingroom area was definitely smaller at BWV than VWL - of course I have only been in 1-bedroom BWV that was preferred. My normal is standard. this was a lock out at both places.

sorry I am just not enough familiar with the 1-bedroom - I generally stay in studio - okay I am cheap!!!

 

[nuttylawprofessor]

According to the Unofficial Guide:

SSR: S -- 355 sf; 1BR -- 714; 2BR -- 1075; GV -- 2113
BCV: S -- 356; 1BR -- 726; 2BR -- 1083
VWL: S -- 356; 1BR -- 727; 2BR -- 1080; GV -- 2202
BWV: S -- 412; 1BR -- 814; 2BR -- 1236; GV -- 2491
OKW: S -- 376; 1Br -- 942; 2BR -- 1333; GV -- 2202

-- Suzanne

You all are cracking me up. You're noticing discrepancies of 10 sq. ft. here and there, but are missing the report of a WILDERNESS LODGE GRAND VILLA in the Unofficial Guide.

 

[jdg345]

You all are cracking me up. You're noticing discrepancies of 10 sq. ft. here and there, but are missing the report of a WILDERNESS LODGE GRAND VILLA in the Unofficial Guide.

:lol: ...

 

[SuzanneSLO]

Oh, you mean GV stands for Grand Villa?? What's that? We usually stay in studios. -- Suzanne

 

[Dean]

According to the Unofficial Guide:

SSR: S -- 355 sf; 1BR -- 714; 2BR -- 1075; GV -- 2113
BCV: S -- 356; 1BR -- 726; 2BR -- 1083
VWL: S -- 356; 1BR -- 727; 2BR -- 1080; GV -- 2202
BWV: S -- 412; 1BR -- 814; 2BR -- 1236; GV -- 2491
OKW: S -- 376; 1Br -- 942; 2BR -- 1333; GV -- 2202

-- Suzanne

They took them right from the website. Previously they had different numbers for BWV, basically the same as BCV and VWL which are more correct realizing that any numbers is either an average or some other method (mode) of representing the majority of the rooms. The numbers posted would suggest they measured the wrap around rooms on the corners that are larger. Allearsnet has it 359/712/1,071/2,142 as Pat suggests and are c/w my notes from when it opened. This is the info that DVC previously had posted online, don't know exactly when or why they changed it.

 

[LisaS]

BWV and AKV have something in common - not every room is the same size.

I have been in the dedicated studio and lock out studio - believe me the dedicated is bigger.

Thanks, Spicey. At this point I don't know what to make of the villa sizes the guides are sharing about AKV. If we can't trust the numbers they have published about the other resorts, can we have any faith in what they are saying about the villa sizes at AKV? I guess I'll have to wait for some subjective impressions from the first DISboard members to stay at AKV.

Hey, if I had one of those Owner's Lockers, I could keep my tape measure in it!

 

[LisaS]

You all are cracking me up. You're noticing discrepancies of 10 sq. ft. here and there, but are missing the report of a WILDERNESS LODGE GRAND VILLA in the Unofficial Guide.

Keep your voice down! When they talk about Disney's "Best Kept Secret", this is it. Only VWL owners know about them so please keep this to yourself.

 

[lisareniff]

I posted this on another thread but thought I would put it here as well...

Did anyone notice that only half of the Ostrich and Giraffe trails are included on this diagram? Maybe they are not taking all of the 5th floor???
Anyone have any thoughts? Suzanne?

 

[SuzanneSLO]

The Ground Lease to DVC describes the entire 5th and 6th floor as being Leased to DVC for its use. Except for rights to use the concierge lounge, there is no mention of any of the space still being made available as part of the AKL. I think the drawing you posted is just part of a series of drawings.
--Suzanne

 

[LisaS]

The Ground Lease to DVC describes the entire 5th and 6th floor as being Leased to DVC for its use. Except for rights to use the concierge lounge, there is no mention of any of the space still being made available as part of the AKL. I think the drawing you posted is just part of a series of drawings.
--Suzanne

I took another look at the Memorandum of Ground & Improvements Lease for AKV. In the diagram of the Fifth Floor Ground Lease on page 4, the dark line designating the perimeter of the ground lease appears to exclude some of the AKL rooms that face the parking lot.