China Trip Report 2014

Another great installment and photos, Cousin Orville!

It looks like you had a full day of fun activities. Did you miss having the Adventure Guides around to handle all the logistics? ::yes::

The Hong Kong History Museum looks like a very interesting place to visit. Where was that display of Transformers Pandas located?

I like that pic of Gavin duplicating the Bayon Temple face-to-face. Was that near the Jungle Cruise?

The Peninsula Hong Kong looks beautiful. Were those the hotel's Rolls Royces?

I missed the guides, but it was nice to have a couple days at the end to sleep in and kind of do something that maybe other people wouldn't want to do like go to HKDL a couple of mornings in a row. On the other hand, it's nice to have organize activities that I would frankly be too lazy to organize on my own. I considered taking one of the open air nighttime bus tours of HK, but was too lazy to figure out where and when to catch it so we ended up walking around. The guides would have been great in that situation!

The Pandas were right around Nathan Road. We just stumbled upon them. Very cool!

Yep we couldn't resist duplicating the Bayon Temp pose. :) Just after you cross the bridge from the hub to Adventureland, it's on your left.

I'm sure those were the hotels RR's. Someone else's Lamborghini parked right up front. They parked all the poor people's Aston Martins and Porsches on the sides. Haha!
 
Cousin Orville,

We went on the Australia ABD in 2011 before the change in itinerary that includes Tasmania. The trip was fantastic!! We went to Melbourne and Kangaroo Island on our own after the ABD ended. The highlight of the Melbourne leg of our trip was a tour to Phillips Island to watch the penguins return from the ocean at dusk and scurry across the beach to their nests. If you do decide to go to Melbourne this would be a great side trip.

Kangaroo Island is a great place to see kangaroos, koalas, seal lions & seals in the "wild". The scenery there is beautiful. Tasmania probably includes a lot of nature and local animals similar to Kangaroo Island.

Thanks for the wonderful trip report on China.

Kathy

How did you get from Melbourne to Kangaroo Island. Did you do it as a day trip? It looks kind of far.
 
Postday 2 - Hong Kong

I’m going to break my routine of putting the daily photos after the trip report. Sorry, the pictures of our last day are kind of boring...

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One more pic from our room. There’s a lot of construction going on around the waterfront too. I think next year’s Peninsula choice should avoid that.

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Spent the last of our HK$ on a travel umbrella. Pretty cool one too. You can push a button to not only open it, but close it as well.

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Waiting for the long plane ride home. Ran into an add for Ephesus. We’ll actually be there soon.

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So, with my credit card I get a supposed priority boarding for United flights. Ha! Look at that line! And we were in the middle of the line. It was probably a shorter line for the NON priority boarding.

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Setting up camp for the next 14 hrs to San Francisco. Business Class seats would be sooo nice right about now. I may have to bite the bullet and look into that for Australia. :)
 
How did you get from Melbourne to Kangaroo Island. Did you do it as a day trip? It looks kind of far.

We flew from Melbourne to Adelaide then took a smaller plane to Kangaroo Island and stayed for two nights. You can also take a ferry across.

Before Tasmania was added to the Australia ABD the trip was only 9 days so we added on Melbourne and Kangaroo Island to extend the trip to two weeks. It looks like there are a lot of nature adventures and opportunities to see animals since the addition of Tasmania. I would love to repeat this trip one day and explore Tasmania. Australia is so beautiful I am sure you and your son will have a wonderful experience.

I don't know if your son has any interest in Astronomy but it may be worthwhile to read about the view of the stars from the southern hemisphere. The night sky at Ayers Rock is so clear. You will see so many stars and a spectacular view of the Milky Way.
 
I don't know if your son has any interest in Astronomy but it may be worthwhile to read about the view of the stars from the southern hemisphere. The night sky at Ayers Rock is so clear. You will see so many stars and a spectacular view of the Milky Way.

Great! Thanks for the tip!
 
Postday 2 - Hong Kong

Today we fly home. Our flight was around 11:30 am. Bags to be taken down at 8 and driver pickup at 8:30 as arranged by ABD. While going to breakfast I noticed one of our fellow adventurers, Peter sitting in a corner by himself. We hadn’t seen anyone, other than Steven, since our last night together. So, it was a nice surprise. We chatted for a bit. He was going with his family over to Macau for the day. I had strongly considered doing that as well, but with just a couple of post days, decided against it. It was a pleasure seeing him for a bit. Gavin and I were both sad and excited to be leaving. The drive to the airport was uneventful. As was check in/ security/ etc. We shopped around for a bit. I texted last min souvenir choices back home for opinions. My DW, Kate, really wanted a cool travel umbrella so that depleted the rest of our HK$.

Flight home was also uneventful. Gavin does very well flying long distances now. As do I, but certainly I was eyeing the business class cabin. Looks pretty nice. I may have look into miles or something for Australia. China is a long flight. Australia must feel like your living in the plane long term. United didn’t have in-seat entertainment or A/C plugs to plug in your iPad. Can you believe that?! 13.5 hrs?! Thankfully I did some research ahead of time and planned for this with battery packs and loaded iPads, but still. In 2014, that’s ridiculous.

Now that I’m home I’ve had some time to reflect. I know many have asked about this trip in comparison to Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia. They’re both amazing trips. You really can’t go wrong with either. China is a bit more amazing race style where you are squeezing in an extra flight and city. And China has no laid back days like SE Asia has (such as Hoi An). But there are more bucket list sites in China (Forbidden City, Great Wall, Pandas, Terracotta Warriors, Shanghai night skyline, Gumdrop Mountains). SE Asia, probably has more variety of cities from the big the Capitalistic Saigon, to the traditional Hanoi, to the Hawaii like Hoi An, to the jungles of Laos and Cambodia. In China, other than Guilin, all of the cities are huge. They do vary a lot in their style and atmosphere.

Food wise, I have to give it to SE Asia. The two standouts were the ABD paid for dinners in Hoi An and Hanoi where you get to choose where you eat and you select from a menu. Even the other restaurants were great to excellent. Cirrus in Saigon and the pool side barbecue in Laos come to mind. Other than M on the Bund and the Dim Sum restaurants in Shanghai, I’m not sure there were any major standouts. The Royal Restaurant with the Tea Ceremony in Beijing was nice. Lunch and dinner in Hong Kong were good, but not outstandingly good. I wouldn’t make a point to return to any of those. ABD China needs to add a higher end restaurant to Beijing. I suggest they contact Capital M as it is very nice, has a great view, they obviously have a relationship with M on the Bund, and there’s a fun evening touristy area right beside it. In Chengdu, they let you eat on your own at the buffet in the Ritz. It was good. Again, it didn’t blow my mind away. I think upgrading to eating at one of the sit down restaurants in the Ritz would have been a better choice (similar to what they do in Hanoi). Xi’an was a disaster in my book. I have zero doubt there are great lunch options there. (Research the top 20 or so restaurants on tripadvisor Xi’an to see who wants the business. Pick a few to visit to check cleanliness and atmosphere. I’m not sure what’s so difficult.)

Overall, China and SE Asia are pretty equal in my mind. I strongly recommend both. And if you’ve concentrated on US or European ABD’s, I highly recommend you giving one of these a try. Asia is just so cool. The people are so nice. The attractions are so different from anything you’ve ever seen. Is it intimidating? Maybe, but that’s why you’re doing an Adventures by Disney. I would do either of these ABD’s again. For me, SE Asia may be more repeatable because a lot of it is just enjoying the atmosphere of the cities and different countries. It also seemed like there was more time on your own. China was a little faster paced. It’s amazing as is, but I’d be more likely to repeat it if there was there was an itinerary change to see some new places.

For those comparing Asian ABD’s, here’s my Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia trip report:
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3127801

If you have any questions about either ABD, please let me know here or feel free to message me. If any of my fellow travelers or guides come across this, Gavin and I miss you all! I hope you’re doing well. Please feel free to give everyone your own opinions. Hope everyone has enjoyed it!

Kevin
 
Cousin Orville - Thanks so much for a great review and helping me relive our trip in May. Your photos were great and I was able to picture myself right there with you!
For those planning to go in the future, we also had two post tour days. One added place to visit was "The Big Buddha" at the Po Lin Monastery. It an easy subway ride away and then a fantastic 20 minute (approximate) clear "glass" gondola ride up the mountain. Great view on the ride up/down and a nice peaceful visit around the grounds of the monastery. Very much like a National Park atmosphere. We combined that with an afternoon visit back to Disneyland.

Thanks again for the trip report. I'm going to hop over to your SE Asia report now and start dreaming!
 
Cousin Orville, we really enjoyed reading your Trip Report and looking at all of the photos. Thanks so much for taking the time to do it.

I thought a few your observations were quite humorous, like your suggestion for AbD to find a better restaurant in Xian (it's really not that difficult!) and United's priority boarding situation. It looks like a lot of other people must have applied for their credit card. Yes, I think Business Class or higher is the ONLY way to fly! ::yes::

Have you been able to access the Adventure Guides' photos online yet?
 
Cousin Orville, we really enjoyed reading your Trip Report and looking at all of the photos. Thanks so much for taking the time to do it.

I thought a few your observations were quite humorous, like your suggestion for AbD to find a better restaurant in Xian (it's really not that difficult!) and United's priority boarding situation. It looks like a lot of other people must have applied for their credit card. Yes, I think Business Class or higher is the ONLY way to fly! ::yes::

Have you been able to access the Adventure Guides' photos online yet?

Thanks for the kind words. I have not tried to access the Guides' photos yet. I need to.
 
Hi Kevin,

Thanks for sharing your trip report!! I enjoyed reading your TR - it was so fun to be able to relive the ABD trip - even though it just ended last week :) Great pics too!!

It was nice meeting you and Gavin :) I am definitely hooked on ABD trips now…but have a feeling that the China trip set the bar pretty high. Am looking forward to hearing about your Backstage Magic trip as that one is on my "Must Do Soon" list.

Take care! Let us know if you're ever on the island!

Jenn
 
Kevin, I second the kudos! One thing that makes me a bit nervous is the "on your own time". I know everyone is an individual and we all like a certain amount of freedom. My concern having not previously done an ABD is what will I do? I certainly don't want the boys to just hang out in the room and watch TV (I'd kill them!), yet it doesn't seem immediately clear as to how to know WHAT to do. Did you research the days that have free time for options?
 
Kevin, I second the kudos! One thing that makes me a bit nervous is the "on your own time". I know everyone is an individual and we all like a certain amount of freedom. My concern having not previously done an ABD is what will I do? I certainly don't want the boys to just hang out in the room and watch TV (I'd kill them!), yet it doesn't seem immediately clear as to how to know WHAT to do. Did you research the days that have free time for options?
The Adventure Guides always have suggestions and directions if you don't know what you want to do. Our free time in Paris, they suggested I check out the Sacré-Cœur (which I loved!) and gave me a map and explicit directions how to get there by Metro. They gave me several options, and that was the one that sounded best to me.

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Hi Kevin,

Thanks for sharing your trip report!! I enjoyed reading your TR - it was so fun to be able to relive the ABD trip - even though it just ended last week :) Great pics too!!

It was nice meeting you and Gavin :) I am definitely hooked on ABD trips now…but have a feeling that the China trip set the bar pretty high. Am looking forward to hearing about your Backstage Magic trip as that one is on my "Must Do Soon" list.

Take care! Let us know if you're ever on the island!

Jenn

Thanks! It was great meeting you too. Say "hello" to Aulani for me the next time you're there!
 
Kevin, I second the kudos! One thing that makes me a bit nervous is the "on your own time". I know everyone is an individual and we all like a certain amount of freedom. My concern having not previously done an ABD is what will I do? I certainly don't want the boys to just hang out in the room and watch TV (I'd kill them!), yet it doesn't seem immediately clear as to how to know WHAT to do. Did you research the days that have free time for options?

A lot of times you may want the time to relax or go to the pool/spa. They're busy trips. But I'm often one to get out and about. I typically still read up on these places in guide books or look at the activities section on tripadvisor especially for the days with down time and decide what I might want to do. Then as far as figuring out how to get there, you can decide walk, cab or subway and decide what you think is best for you. I'm often lazy and just cab it. If there is just a few hours often I'll rest a bit in the room or swim and go somewhere in walking distance to the hotel. In China there wasn't a lot of on your own time. In Beijing we walked down the street to the pedestrian marketplace. In Chengdu, I use my goal of getting a starbucks mug to get us to walk around a bit and went to a nearby square/park. In Shanghai, you're right near the Bund and waterfront, so it's super easy.

It really depends on how much free time and what trip you're doing. Having said that, probably the best resource is to pose the specific questions here on the forum about your trip. I'm doing the same regarding next year's Australia trip both for the pre days and the free time during the trip.
 
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Great report - thank you. Will you be doing one for your cruise as well? I also read your SE Asia trip report. I am looking forward to Australia next year.

I am getting the bug to try one of these now myself.
 
I am enjoying reading your report on China-we went a couple years ago and are headed to SE Asia in 6 days. It sounds like they've changed the order of what they do in Beijing and a few of the restaurants too. The ones we were at were very good-excellent. As for this very long day in Xi'an, we had a very different lunch experience. We ate inside the complex at a small tea house. Limited choices, poor service, but much quicker than what you had. Guess they tried something new in hopes of improving lunch but instead made it worse. If it has to be a mediocre meal due to limited choices it would be nice if it at least wasn't dragged out for hours
 
They do have the huge full sized warriors. They will ship them, but no idea how much. Thousands I'm sure. Apparently the quality of the warriors you buy at the official shop is much higher than the ones you see being sold in the markets.

We purchased a kneeling archer who guards our house. It was about $1500 and "included" shipping which took a few months to arrive. Then we had to pay something like a couple hundred dollars to pick him up at the harbor. Then getting him home had to borrow a truck, crazy hassle. BUT we love "Terra Cotta Tim" and are very happy we made the purchase.
 
We purchased a kneeling archer who guards our house. It was about $1500 and "included" shipping which took a few months to arrive. Then we had to pay something like a couple hundred dollars to pick him up at the harbor. Then getting him home had to borrow a truck, crazy hassle. BUT we love "Terra Cotta Tim" and are very happy we made the purchase.

That's awesome. You should post a photo!

And yes, I agree, if your going to have a mediocre meal, don't drag it out into multiple long courses.
 
I am enjoying reading your report on China-we went a couple years ago and are headed to SE Asia in 6 days. It sounds like they've changed the order of what they do in Beijing and a few of the restaurants too. The ones we were at were very good-excellent. As for this very long day in Xi'an, we had a very different lunch experience. We ate inside the complex at a small tea house. Limited choices, poor service, but much quicker than what you had. Guess they tried something new in hopes of improving lunch but instead made it worse. If it has to be a mediocre meal due to limited choices it would be nice if it at least wasn't dragged out for hours

Oh and enjoy SE Asia! You'll love it!
 
Great report - thank you. Will you be doing one for your cruise as well? I also read your SE Asia trip report. I am looking forward to Australia next year.

I am getting the bug to try one of these now myself.

I don't think I'll be doing a med cruise report. It's a little trickier posting photos from the ship with limited internet. We just boarded the ship yesterday and are ready for a great cruise. Certainly very different from an Adventures by Disney, but both are fun. I saw the ABD booth at check in, and was a little bit jealous. :). That would be a fun combo.
 

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