Now they're going after Halloween

[wonder whisper]

Reading comprehension is fundamental.

Yes, it is. So please tell us all the name of the event on 11/9 in Needham, MA. Or do you not recall it?

 

[wonder whisper]

Anyone have an opinion of the Malaysian Air flight #370 and the plane that's missing?

Not an opinion, but did see a news blurb about a week ago that some privately held nautical underwater search firm was developing a proposal to present to the Malaysian government, whereby they would look for the flight on the terms they would only be paid (price not specified) if they found it.

 

[Kaytie]

o you work in the field of tracking consumer behavior and experience?

I do, and purchases of products and services related to specific holidays are tracked much more discretely than you imply

Purchases are tracked much more separately?

So your implying there is no way to evaluate the financial impact of Halloween

No, she's saying customers aren't asked the specific reason for purchases.

 

[wonder whisper]

. Who is behind the reason for canceling something that has gone on for years.

A civil servant who has given a generic, vague reason for canceling the traditional Halloween parade (it's somehow too "un-inclusive"). And as I predicted in an earlier post, the next target of this revisionist bureaucrat is probably going to be Thanksgiving, where he will eliminate any planned curriculum about the Pilgrims, stating they are offensive to any students who have ancestry to "indigenous peoples."

And anyone who feels I'm being too wildly speculative here, remember the Redbook editorial I just shared (where the authorship isn't even credited, the magazine simply stated it had been written by unamed "Redbook editors") who in the piece say that any female child who is "not of color" who wears a Disney Moana costume for Halloween is "a racist engaging in cultural appropriation."

Yes, the lunatics really are taking over the asylum at Hearst "publishing."

 

[Kaytie]

Speaking of William Mitchell, the elementary school in Needham bearing his name seems to be a hotbed of controversy. Look at the very "un-inclusive" thing that happened there back in September (before the ruckus over Halloween started):

The school didn't create or cause the graffiti. Per the article, the school handled the situation very well.

 

[Kaytie]

It's official

Sorry, if you're going to invoke this, you really should use the original event

 

[CarolAnn856]

Well, since it's a book series with an AR level of 5.5-7.2, second grade is a few years early for them to be reading HP. I could see why parents would be questioning the choice for that grade level. Why did the teacher choose to read this book to the class, when it was a few grade levels above the class? Was it a gifted class?

What you cited is the reading level, i e., how difficult the text is to read. Children can comprehend language at a higher level than they can read. Many picture books have a reading level far above the grade of the children who might enjoy the book, which is why adults read these stories to children. For example, Where the Wild Things Are has a reading level of 3.4 but is loved by students as young as preschool. The same can be true for novels.

 

[Kaytie]

Yes, it is. So please tell us all the name of the event on 11/9 in Needham, MA. Or do you not recall it?

William Mitchell Day.

Once again, use. of. the. WORD. Halloween. is. not. banned. at Mitchell Elementary School. Or anywhere. Not holding an event or events on for any specific celebration is not the same as banning the word or name of the celebration.

 

[wonder whisper]

Purchases are tracked much more separately?

No, she's saying customers aren't asked the specific reason for purchases.

I'm more than willing to bet certain people here have never even been in a Spirit Halloween store.

If they had, they wouldn't be spouting this ridiculuous, absolutely silly nonsense that said stores are full of people buying items not for Halloween, but for generic Harvest/Autumn events. Yep, certainly, here are examples of the "festive" items they selected from Spirit for their generic "Fall celebrations":

 

[IAHFTPT]

Not an opinion, but did see a news blurb about a week ago that some privately held nautical underwater search firm was developing a proposal to present to the Malaysian government, whereby they would look for the flight on the terms they would only be paid (price not specified) if they found it.

I'm not surprised in the least.

 

[wonder whisper]

The school didn't create or cause the graffiti. Per the article, the school handled the situation very well.

The fact said graffiti appeared in said elementary school suggests things there possibly aren't as harmonious and "respectful of all" as the Principal is trying to impy they are. Or stated differently, even before this Halloween hullabaloo, this administrator had issues coming up during his tenure.

 

[luvsJack]

I'm more than willing to bet certain people here have never even been in a Spirit Halloween store.

If they had, they wouldn't be spouting this ridiculuous, absolutely silly nonsense that said stores are full of people buying items not for Halloween, but for generic Harvest/Autumn events. Yep, certainly, here are examples of the "festive" items they selected from Spirit for their generic "Fall celebrations":

Oh please. I have been in there almost every year for the past 5 or 6 years to get costumes or pieces to complete a costume. I am well aware of what it looks like. We always have a ball watching the stuff on display scare people. Your pictures don't even show half of what they have.

And yes there are people buying things that can be used for either/or. Of course maybe not in your small area but out here in the "real world" people do go in there throughout the season for anything to do with a costume or decorations or celebrations or whatever.

Actually Dd and I went there last week to get a referee costume. Had NOTHING to do with Halloween it was a quick fix to have a referee in a wrestling show. So if that was counted as "Halloween purchasing", it was counted wrong.

My bil also went there to get some kind of battery operated rats. Had nothing to do with Halloween. He got them for some kind of prank he was playing.

Oh and they sell silly string which kids love having at football games because they have colors other places don't have. Again, nothing to do with Halloween.

We have purchased costume beards and such for costumes worn to church events. Also they carry costumes that can used for these.

All of these are purchases made in Spirit Halloween that have nothing to do with Halloween.

The only one spouting silly nonsense is you.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I'm more than willing to bet certain people here have never even been in a Spirit Halloween store.

If they had, they wouldn't be spouting this ridiculuous, absolutely silly nonsense that said stores are full of people buying items not for Halloween, but for generic Harvest/Autumn events. Yep, certainly, here are examples of the "festive" items they selected from Spirit for their generic "Fall celebrations":

Well as someone who worked for Spirit Halloween for 3 years in a row....the store was only open from basically September til a day or two after Halloween. I've no doubt that someone went into the store and bought something not for Halloween. Spirit Halloween due to the nature of the store could have different and unique items not found in places like Walmart, Party City, Party America, Target, Dollar Tree, etc.

Now I'm sure the vast majority went in for Halloween but not all.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Oh please. I have been in there almost every year for the past 5 or 6 years to get costumes or pieces to complete a costume. I am well aware of what it looks like. We always have a ball watching the stuff on display scare people. Your pictures don't even show half of what they have.

And yes there are people buying things that can be used for either/or. Of course maybe not in your small area but out here in the "real world" people do go in there throughout the season for anything to do with a costume or decorations or celebrations or whatever.

Actually Dd and I went there last week to get a referee costume. Had NOTHING to do with Halloween it was a quick fix to have a referee in a wrestling show. So if that was counted as "Halloween purchasing", it was counted wrong.

My bil also went there to get some kind of battery operated rats. Had nothing to do with Halloween. He got them for some kind of prank he was playing.

Oh and they sell silly string which kids love having at football games because they have colors other places don't have. Again, nothing to do with Halloween.

We have purchased costume beards and such for costumes worn to church events. Also they carry costumes that can used for these.

All of these are purchases made in Spirit Halloween that have nothing to do with Halloween.

The only one spouting silly nonsense is you.

As to your bolded comment because Spirit Halloween is a seasonal store your purchase would have been counted as 'Halloween purchasing' if you will in terms of it went towards Spirit's profits of that store location (which is important for figuring out if the store should stay in that location if possible for the next year, or even in that same city for the next year).

However, as I said in my above comment not all items bought at Spirit Halloween could 100% be said it would be used towards Halloween. But Spirit Halloween is owned by Spencer's Gifts so effectively your purchase at Spirit Halloween could be considered just a purchase at a subsidary of a chain store company so I suppose that could be a happy medium

 

[CarolAnn856]

Well as someone who worked for Spirit Halloween for 3 years in a row....the store was only open from basically September til a day or two after Halloween. I've no doubt that someone went into the store and bought something not for Halloween. Spirit Halloween due to the nature of the store could have different and unique items not found in places like Walmart, Party City, Party America, Target, Dollar Tree, etc.

Now I'm sure the vast majority went in for Halloween but not all.

As a school librarian, I've purchased many items from Spirit that were never used for Halloween. In a previous position, I used costume hats when I did story time. More recently, my students have been creating short videos, and I bought various costume pieces and props for them to use when filming.

 

[wonder whisper]

Well as someone who worked for Spirit Halloween for 3 years in a row....the store was only open from basically September til a day or two after Halloween. I've no doubt that someone went into the store and bought something not for Halloween. Spirit Halloween due to the nature of the store could have different and unique items not found in places like Walmart, Party City, Party America, Target, Dollar Tree, etc.

Now I'm sure the vast majority went in for Halloween but not all.

Of course not all, but one is still left wondering what the non Halloween shoppers were looking for. If they seeking generic "fall" decor, the majority are going to end up in a place like Michaels, not Spirit.

As for the non-Halloween crowd buying things at Spirit, again, one wonders what? Costumes for something other than Halloween? Possibly, if they are real advance planners (given Spirit stores are short term seasonal operations). And yes, I know the Spirit online operation does sell some Christmas items, but I've never seen those in short term seasonal stores.

As for all the plethora of prop items Spirit sells, I really wonder what the prevelance (much less profile) is of customers who are buying animatronic ghouls, plastic pitchforks and skull motif candelabras not for Halloween but instead for what? Thanksgiving? Christmas? Some weird office party?

 

[wonder whisper]

All of these are purchases made in Spirit Halloween that have nothing to do with Halloween.

The only one spouting silly nonsense is you.

No, you are practicing the simplistic, erroneous and nonsensical "sample of one" approach to reaching a conclusion. Your experience does not prove you are the norm. And given the retail operation of that firm is short term seasonal, pray tell where you buy your silly string and cheap Chinese battery rats in April?

 

[luvsJack]

Of course not all, but one is still left wondering what the non Halloween shoppers were looking for. If they seeking generic "fall" decor, the majority are going to end up in a place like Michaels, not Spirit.

As for the non-Halloween crowd buying things at Spirit, again, one wonders what? Costumes for something other than Halloween? Possibly, if they are real advance planners (given Spirit stores are short term seasonal operations). And yes, I know the Spirit online operation does sell some Christmas items, but I've never seen those in short term seasonal stores.

As for all the plethora of prop items Spirit sells, I really wonder what the prevelance (much less profile) is of customers who are buying animatronic ghouls, plastic pitchforks and skull motif candelabras not for Halloween but instead for what? Thanksgiving? Christmas? Some weird office party?

Do you even bother to read what others have said? The post just above yours clearly explains what the pp has purchased props for. And I gave you four examples. And no one mentioned plastic pitchforks and the like.

Costumes are used for MANY things. Not just a holiday. Like the referee costume I mentioned before and Dd saw several things she plans to go back and get to use in the next show. This is something they do year round and when the store is open they tend to stock up on some stuff they may use later. Lights are another thing they buy there to use.

 

[luvsJack]

No, you are practicing the classic simplistic, erroneous "sample of one" approach to reaching a conclusion. Your experience does not prove you are the norm. And given the retail operation of that firm is short term seasonal, pray tell where you buy your silly string and Chinese junk rats in April?

Uhmmm football isn't played in April.

Are you seriously incapable of seeing that obviously it is your experience or what you assume to be experience is not the norm? You walk in a store and assume you know what everyone else is doing when that isn't the case at all.

 

[wonder whisper]

William Mitchell Day.

Once again, use. of. the. WORD. Halloween. is. not. banned. at Mitchell Elementary School. Or anywhere. Not holding an event or events on for any specific celebration is not the same as banning the word or name of the celebration.

Once again, some here like to play games with semantics.

But that doesn't work.

Due to principal's decision, there are no longer any events at the school that contain the label "Halloween." Since a now terminated event previously had that label, the use of that term to refer to ANY events at said school has also been terminated.

What form of ban are are you having difficulty understanding?