mmmears
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- Nov 30, 2005
10/5/18 - 30K MR after $4k spend in 3 months ( 4 year Cardholder. Received retention 2 years ago, nothing last year).
10/5/18 - 20K MR after $3k spend in 3 months ($1.5k spend last year, $4k spend this YTD, haven't received retention on this previously)
10/10/18 - 30k MR or $300 after $4k spend in 3 months (3 year cardholder; never received retention; roughly $10k spend last year)
10/11/18 - no offer, card cancelled. Called the retention number in the wiki and said I wanted to close my card and he canceled it without any effort to save. Had received retention offers for the last 3 or so years (every year since opening, very little spend on the card (less than $1000/year)
10/18/18 - 20K MR points for spending $3000/ 3 months. Took the offer.
12/27/18 - 50K MR points, no spending requirements. Took the offer.
1/7/19 - 20K MR points for spending $3000/ 3 months. Took the points. No spend other than original minimum spend and several Amex offers.
1/7/19 - $500 credit or 50K MR points. No spend requirement. I took the points. Winning! I had accepted a retention offer two years ago. Roughly $60k spending in 2018.
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Thanks so much for this. I really appreciate it. It looks like offers are alive and well at the moment.
I’m reposting what I replied to you last summer, with a few edits:
This pertains to the Amex Platinum, but can be applied more generally. Since you’re well over a year into holding the Platinum, you could call just before your AF is about to post to fish for an offer, take it or think about it, and after your AF posts if you didn’t like the first offer, and again before the AF is due. Amex will refund the AF if you cancel a card within 30 days after the statement in which the AF posts.
The Amex retention department can be reached at 1-800-452-3945. However, I don’t think Amex calls it the “retention department,” even though that’s what they’re there for.
Before you call in, you should check out FlyerTalk’s thread on Amex retention offers for the latest data points on what people are being offered to keep their cards open. This way, you can familiarize yourself with the range of offers on your card product and whether what’s ultimately offered to you is good or bad. You can follow the thread here: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ame...812751-american-express-retention-offers.html
When you call in, you can say something along the lines of, “The annual fee on my card is about to post (or just posted), and I’m evaluating whether to keep the card or cancel it. Do you have any offers or incentives that’ll help me decide to keep the card?” Don’t be afraid to say “cancel,” because that’s often the trigger word for Amex to make you some offers. If the Amex rep asks if you want to cancel, without making you any offers, tell them “no, I haven’t decided to cancel at this time, but I’m evaluating my options,” and ask again if they have any offers for you. Amex will not cancel the card without reading you a long list of disclosures and getting your affirmative consent. So don’t worry about that. The rep may also try to sell you on the value of the card’s benefits, particularly when it comes to the Platinum. Even if you really love the Platinum’s benefits, this is a sales tactic you shouldn’t fall for because it’s in your interest to downplay their value to you. You recently got a CSR, which Amex views as a serious competitor to the Platinum, so you can leverage having another premium travel rewards card against Amex. The CSR has a lower AF, an easier to use $300 travel credit than the Platinum’s $200 airline fee credit, you might not use Uber, the UR points are easier to earn and worth more to use through the Chase travel portal, the CSR also gives you access to the Priority Pass Lounges, the CSR has better trip delay/interruption and rental insurance, etc. You also have the Business Platinum, which gets you a lot of the same benefits as on the personal Platinum, including Centurion and Priority Pass Lounge access, Gold status with Marriott/SPG and Hilton. The personal Platinum does have the Uber and Saks credits though, and 5x MR for flights booked directly with the airline. If you don’t like the offers Amex gives you when you first call in, tell them you’d like to think about it, hang up and try again later. You might get a different offer after your AF posts.
Amex retention offers are attached to your account and can change periodically. The Amex rep is likely just reading whatever offer is available to your account that comes up on screen. Factors that can influence retention offers include how much spend you put on the card in the past year, is your spend up or down since MSR, how long you’ve held the card, whether you’ve used up any of the card benefits, whether you got a retention offer last year (retention offers are once per 13 months), and I’m also guessing more broadly their retention rate for that card product at the time and even time of year. Anecdotally, people have called before their AF posts, after their AF posts, and just before the AF is due to see if they get an offer, and if they don't like it HUCA later to see if they get a better offer.
I've called on a weekday early morning (Pacific Time) and got a sh*t offer on my Amex PRG; called about a week later on a weekday afternoon, same sh*t offer; called a week later on a weekend morning, same sh*t offer. About a month later, I saw numerous DPs of much better retention offers on the PRG. Last year on my Platinum, I called in on a Saturday early morning, and got an almost irresistible retention offer of 30k MR with no spend requirement, but I also did put $25k/yr. on the card, double dipped the airline credits, used all my Uber credits, saved ~$200 on Amex Offers, and had my wife as an AU for another $175, so I’m guessing Amex really wanted me to pay another AF or they’d be losing money on my card.
If you don’t get a good offer, think about whether you want to close it since Amex is apparently now counting cards opened and closed against whether you get the pop up. I do think you’ll get some kind of retention offer, but you need to decide if the offer offsets enough of the $550 AF, minus the value of the airline, Uber, and Saks credits, and whatever other benefits of the card that you can’t get from the Biz Plat, to renew for another year.
Hope this helps.
This does help. Thank you very much. It sounds like we should at least try rather than just auto paying the AF. Honestly I doubt we'd cancel the card if there is no offer, esp since DD is an AU on this one, but still worth a phone call.