OFFICIAL Avengers: Endgame Discussion Thread (will contain spoilers once the movie is out)

[ELLH]

They mentioned some of my favorite Time Travel movies and shows. Loved Back to the Future and Quantum Leap shout outs. Will buy when it comes out.

Yes! Had to amend my PP.

 

[kbelle8995]

Oh please cut Thor's hair back. Preferred it short like in Ranarok. Love the scene with his Mom. When he and Rocket snuck past Loki I was cracking up.

 

[AngiTN]

I saw the movie yesterday. The busiest I have ever seen it at my local movie theater. IT was paced so well the three hours just flew by. I felt it was right where they left Cap. But I loved Agent Carter the series so I guess that's just an alternate reality now. I wanted to cry with joy at then end.

Loved the women coming together to fight.

They mentioned some of my favorite Time Travel movies and shows. Loved Back to the Future and Quantum Leap shout outs. Will buy when it comes out.

Saw preorders for it already, somewhere. Saturday. Can't remember now what retailer has it, but it was on their website or app.
Though preordering movies today are nothing like when we stood in line at the Disney store to preorder a copy of the VHS of the newest movie, complete in clamshell case. I did that for my copies of Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast and Lion King.

 

[Kennywood]

One of the funniest moments for me was when Thor hands Mjolnir to Cap and says, "You take the little one."

 

[BuzzyBelle]

Just a random note for you fellow parents out there:
The cursing was a bit gratuitous. Obviously, we know a PG-13 movie will have these things. It just seemed more frequent than the previous Marvel films. I wouldn't keep my 8yo from seeing it again because of this but it's just something to consider for those who may be more intolerant or have younger ears with them.

I agree. I saw it yesterday at 7am and then my husband took our DD9 right after. As we were switching off with my youngest DD I mentioned this to him. I thought it was more prevalent than prior films. DD knows curse words are not appropriate language, but when you hear the “good guys” using them repeatedly it’s something to be conscious of.

 

[ELLH]

... but when you hear the “good guys” using them repeatedly it’s something to be conscious of.

Exactly.

 

[rteetz]

I agree. I saw it yesterday at 7am and then my husband took our DD9 right after. As we were switching off with my youngest DD I mentioned this to him. I thought it was more prevalent than prior films. DD knows curse words are not appropriate language, but when you hear the “good guys” using them repeatedly it’s something to be conscious of.

I would say for one of them Iron Man did tell his daughter that she shouldn’t say that word and that it’s mommy's word. I sort of loved the America’s butt running gag.

 

[AngiTN]

Article helping explain the time travel

http://time.com/5576656/avengers-endgame-time-travel/

They explained it exactly as I understood it all. Though I forgot they used the word quantum realm.
And they still can't explain Cap's reappearance but I still maintain we aren't shown how he arrived there so it can be that he did have some assistance with that part and we never see it. May even have been a scene that landed on the cutting room floor. I know there's been more than one movie that had deleted scenes on their DVD and I saw what I felt to be, key moments that would explain confusing plot points, left on the cutting room floor. Even Marvel isn't immune to poor editing choices. Some of it is simply a case that that scene didn't test well when test audiences viewed

 

[ELLH]

The one thing I love about this movie (and other time travel related movies) is how all the self-described physicists come out of the wood work to explain it to the rest of us laymen and make sure to tell us they know everything about the subject.

 

[AngiTN]

Just a random note for you fellow parents out there:
The cursing was a bit gratuitous. Obviously, we know a PG-13 movie will have these things. It just seemed more frequent than the previous Marvel films. I wouldn't keep my 8yo from seeing it again because of this but it's just something to consider for those who may be more intolerant or have younger ears with them.

Too funny you mentioned that. DH wanted more than anything to hear Cap utter "the big one" since his squeaky clean language has been something of a running joke.
He said the perfect time would have been when they saw each other in New York and had to start to fight. The quip they used was great (I could do this all day - I know) he said he wanted Cap to say "oh for f's sake" just that 1 single time.
I guess it's a sad testament to what we watch on TV in that none of us even noticed an increase or gave it a 2nd thought to the 11 yo being there. We don't watch much network TV so the language is always pretty colorful in what we watch

 

[BrianL]

She is really OP right now and I have similar concerns. I also feel a little salty because shes taken the mantle of the "most powerful" character in the MCU away from Wanda. I love Elizabeth Olsen's (and the writers) take on Scarlet Witch who has these incredible abilities and at the same time is flawed. Wanda is still learning how to control her powers, emotions, and is still making/learning form her mistakes. I guess Carol has had years of training with the Kree before she discovered her true powers and has had years since then to refine them but I would have really liked to see that on film. It works better when we have several films to see the characters get fleshed out. It would be like introducing Thor with just having Ragnarok as the starting point.

Honestly, I disagree. Wanda is the one who gave Thanos the strongest beat-down of anybody. Captain Marvel gave him a bit of a fight until...POW. She got laid-out, which I am surprised they showed. I think in a fight between Wanda and Carol, we might see that the Scarlet Witch is still the strongest.

Yes, Carol is powerful, but she plays in that cosmic sandbox. If they incorporate a lot of the Fantastic Four mythology now that they have the rights back, she compares well to Silver Surfer and other characters of that ilk. She's probably pretty far below them on the scale actually.

 

[AngiTN]

The one thing I love about this movie (and other time travel related movies) is how all the self-described physicists come out of the wood work to explain it to the rest of us laymen and make sure to tell us they know everything about the subject.

I find it funny that so many have to have that one aspect explained but never question having Rocket flying a spaceship, just to name one unplausible item from the plot. I mean, they can accept anything is possible except when it comes to how they show time travel and that better fit in a box that already holds other time travel stuff.

 

[BrianL]

The one thing I love about this movie (and other time travel related movies) is how all the self-described physicists come out of the wood work to explain it to the rest of us laymen and make sure to tell us they know everything about the subject.

Yeah, I mean it doesn't really matter. The time travel stuff will never really make sense, but then again does any of it? It's a world of aliens, sorcerers, infinity stones, and talking raccoons. Why worry about it? We don't know what happened exactly. Cap could have done a lot of stuff in the past, jumping around, or whatever he was doing. There could be all kinds of messes and maybe they were cleaned up - or maybe they weren't. Loki got away too, slipping out of sync with the timeline. But, does it matter? Do the laws of physics and the way humans perceive them even apply to a god? Probably not - and I'm okay with that.

 

[Kennywood]

Assuming that Cap went back in time and wound up sharing a timeline with his frozen self, it couldn't have been easy for him. He knew all of the bad things that would happen (HYDRA infiltrating SHIELD, Bucky/Winter Soldier assassinating people, etc). He had to be tempted to change things but knew he couldn't change a single thing. Because, if he did, it might change the Endgame and trillions of people might never be brought back. The math might have been easy; trillions of lives versus changing his ongoing timeline for the better. But it had to eat at his moral center to see thing happen and not do anything to stop it. I would have loved to have seen the conversations between him and Peggy about that.

 

[Moliphino]

Can we get like a 6 hour directors' cut for this? I'd watch it. My sister and I almost went back for a fourth viewing on Sunday (but ultimately decided not to so we wouldn't miss GOT).

 

[BuzzyBelle]

I would say for one of them Iron Man did tell his daughter that she shouldn’t say that word and that it’s mommy's word. I sort of loved the America’s butt running gag.

The thing with Cap was hilarious. I didn’t have a problem with the language really, just something that stood out to me compared to previous films. More of a Guardians level of colorful words than an Avengers level if that makes sense.

I think the emotional aspects of the movie are more of a concern with younger children because some of the scenes are intense. But that all depends on how attached they are to the characters. DH cried way more than our daughter did because he loves Iron Man and was really affected by all of the father/daughter relationships in the film.

Just things to take into consideration when bringing a child to a PG-13 film when they are well below that age.

Can’t wait to see it again tomorrow with our oldest DD. I loved it and thought it was a very short 3 hours.

 

[hakepb]

They explained it exactly as I understood it all. Though I forgot they used the word quantum realm.
And they still can't explain Cap's reappearance but I still maintain we aren't shown how he arrived there so it can be that he did have some assistance with that part and we never see it. May even have been a scene that landed on the cutting room floor. I know there's been more than one movie that had deleted scenes on their DVD and I saw what I felt to be, key moments that would explain confusing plot points, left on the cutting room floor. Even Marvel isn't immune to poor editing choices. Some of it is simply a case that that scene didn't test well when test audiences viewed

I’m not certain if it makes complete sense, but I kinda like the idea that Cap only went back in time, had a normal life, aged naturally, and walked to that bench at the appropriate time.

 

[ChrisFL]

After End-Game, I think for GOTG 3

They'll find Gamora, but since Thor is with them, she'll start falling for Thor instead of Quill and there will be a love triangle of sorts

 

[AngiTN]

After End-Game, I think for GOTG 3

They'll find Gamora, but since Thor is with them, she'll start falling for Thor instead of Quill and there will be a love triangle of sorts

Only if he loses the gut, LOL

 

[ELLH]

I know I'm in the minority here but this movie wasn't firing on all cylinders for me.

Well, I had a conversation with some coworkers this morning who mostly liked it but all agreed that both how Thor was handled and the Hulk not getting in the real action irked them.