Current incentives for RIV?

[TexasChick123]

interesting, the member incentive, at least at the # of points we bought, is the same as the initial one we got when we bought in April, so it has the net effect of just being a price increase (to us).

Same here. If we would've bought our 175 points with these incentives now versus last March, it would've been close to $2K extra for the same points if my math is correct.

 

[SMC23]

I take it the price per point is up as well? Is it now $195/pt ?

 

[TexasChick123]

I take it the price per point is up as well? Is it now $195/pt ?

Correct.

 

[crvetter]

Posted this in another thread:

Anyone have what the old incentives were? I can’t find them and it might be a bellwether if they’ve gone up, down, or stayed the same.

Working on putting together an article this afternoon comparing the two. My general impression though is that the savings basically negate the impact of the point increase but the total price is higher than it was previously.

Here is a thread started previously that has the prior incentives and the current incentives in the thread.
https://www.disboards.com/threads/current-incentives-for-riv.3786971/
Prior Incentives:

Price for RIV is going up at the end of the month to $195. I am sure it will be accompanied by new incentives, but they may not be better. Sales for December were pretty strong.

Not sure about fixed week discounts, but I thought I remember reading it still applies.

Here is what is current but you’d have to call to get FW info or discounts over 300 points.


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Here is the current image from the Disney Vacation Club website in private mode (so it has no cache of me being a member). You can see they are better for current members still.
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Current Incentives

Current incentives for member add ons
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For Nonmembers
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There is some discussion going on regarding this new round of incentives on that original thread.

Edit here is the Effecitive Price per Point if you buy in increments of 5 points from 50 to 295 (I didn't have the incentives that occur after 300).

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As you can see the new incentives (including the bonus offered until 2/26) are better for some sweet spots (mainly 200 - 249 points for Current members and 175 - 285 points for New Members) where the new incentives are cheaper with the price increase vs the prior incentives.

 

[BlackTea]

indication sales is not good? now the price hike more looks like a gimmick, first, to trick more people into buying, second, to make people who bought last March/April not feel too bad?

 

[AKNOTTS66]

indication sales is not good? now the price hike more looks like a gimmick, first, to trick more people into buying, second, to make people who bought last March/April not feel too bad?

My thoughts also.

 

[TexasChick123]

indication sales is not good? now the price hike more looks like a gimmick, first, to trick more people into buying, second, to make people who bought last March/April not feel too bad?

The net price is higher. Incentives remain the same, but on a higher starting price, thus the resulting net price is higher. Does that make sense? I would’ve spent an extra $2K if I bought today versus last March. That indicates to me sales are going well.

 

[Sandisw]

indication sales is not good? now the price hike more looks like a gimmick, first, to trick more people into buying, second, to make people who bought last March/April not feel too bad?

I don’t know if you can make the leap yet to sales. These incentives are not as good for what I got at end of October for my 175.

However, I agree that they do this..raise price...but change incentives....as a marketing tool to increase sales!

 

[AKNOTTS66]

The net price is higher. Incentives remain the same, but on a higher starting price, thus the resulting net price is higher. Does that make sense? I would’ve spent an extra $2K if I bought today versus last March. That indicates to me sales are going well.

Thats with the before opening special though. If you just consider the Recent incentives then i think its not much of an increase with the incentives negating the $ per point increase.

 

[crvetter]

Thats with the before opening special though. If you just consider the Recent incentives then i think its not much of an increase with the incentives negating the $ per point increase.

Yeah the price point and incentives that just expired were more money per point for some point totals (shown in my post above). The new price and incentives are much better for new members looking in 175-285 range and current members in 200-249 range. It also seems they might be trying to direct people to a certain contract size with the incentives. Marketing the incentives manipulates most people very well to moving up in contract size.

 

[AKNOTTS66]

Yeah the price point and incentives that just expired were more money per point for some point totals (shown in my post above). The new price and incentives are much better for new members looking in 175-285 range and current members in 200-249 range. It also seems they might be trying to direct people to a certain contract size with the incentives. Marketing the incentives manipulates most people very well to moving up in contract size.

Yep. I'm wondering if sales weren't as good as they expected. Still very early to tell though.

 

[kboo]

Thats with the before opening special though. If you just consider the Recent incentives then i think its not much of an increase with the incentives negating the $ per point increase.

Again, this confirms the conventional wisdom that a current member buying before opening (and well before opening) will still do the best as far as $/pp.

 

[TexasChick123]

I thought this was standard DVC direct strategy: Increase price per point and increase incentives.

The incentives when we bought were how we ended up with 175 points versus 150 points. Buy more points, spend more money overall, but save more per point. We understood we would spend more overall for the 25 extra points, but the pretty large jump in incentives from 150 to 175 made it worth it to us. I can’t remember what the jump was, but it wasn’t small IIRC.

 

[Wakey]

As a current member it seems if I buy 200 points now, it's actually cheaper than it was before?

 

[AKNOTTS66]

As a current member it seems if I buy 200 points now, it's actually cheaper than it was before?

I'm going to be very interested in seeing sales numbers from this point on. Do incentives usually make it cheaper the longer we go from opening date? Or is this a sign?

 

[TexasChick123]

As a current member it seems if I buy 200 points now, it's actually cheaper than it was before?

Some incentives are better and some are worse. None are better than last spring for current member pre-sales, I believe. In one thread someone did all the math to show which ones were better/worse compared to the ones that just expired.

I'm going to be very interested in seeing sales numbers from this point on. Do incentives usually make it cheaper the longer we go from opening date? Or is this a sign?

Incentives are all over the place. For CCV, some said there was a time (maybe 18 months after initial sales began???) where the incentives were the best that were offered the whole time it was on sale even beating the initial pre-sales to current members. They have certain sales goals which aren't necessarily tied to total sales that we don't know about. From everything I have read, the sale of Riviera is going very well. Incentives aren't the best measure to see how they are going because CCV was selling very well when they introduced better incentives. We never know what they're doing over there.

 

[jamesweikamp]

Sorry if this is dealt with elsewhere, but is there a way to "hold" an incentive for any period of time? The current RIV incentive runs out on Feb. 5 (or so) and I was hoping to add-on to my current contract a couple weeks after that. I am sure the spring incentive will be worse, so I want to try and lock-in the current discount w/o actually buying the points until closer to month end.

Thoughts?

 

[ChipNdale8887]

Sorry if this is dealt with elsewhere, but is there a way to "hold" an incentive for any period of time? The current RIV incentive runs out on Feb. 5 (or so) and I was hoping to add-on to my current contract a couple weeks after that. I am sure the spring incentive will be worse, so I want to try and lock-in the current discount w/o actually buying the points until closer to month end.

Thoughts?

just talk to a guide and ask them about pricing. Our guide would honor pricing if we inquired about it before the increase. From what I've seen if talk to them before an increase and they price it out for your they can easily honor it if you were talking about it before the increase.

 

[Mkaiser1]

Price for RIV is going up at the end of the month to $195. I am sure it will be accompanied by new incentives, but they may not be better. Sales for December were pretty strong.

Not sure about fixed week discounts, but I thought I remember reading it still applies.

Here is what is current but you’d have to call to get FW info or discounts over 300 points.


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It's going up a bit more than that. Riviera is currently $195/point list price but then has the incentives. It will go up to $201/point from 5th February. The incentives have not yet been confirmed.

 

[Sandisw]

It's going up a bit more than that. Riviera is currently $195/point list price but then has the incentives. It will go up to $201/point from 5th February. The incentives have not yet been confirmed.

That post by me was posted a year ago, prior to the increase to the current $195.