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While I realize anything in those Disneyland proposals was only meant to be placeholders for the idea of potentially putting something in that area at some point in the future, not anything actually in the art there, it does raise in an intriguing thought of whether a Wakanda area/land could be added to WDW. I wonder if this is something that Disney would be allowed to use in Orlando or if it would be restricted because of Universal and the whole theme parks rights issue. I think Wakanda would be a pretty cool basis for an area - maybe more so than most Marvel things. Since most of the MCU takes place in essentially a version of our real world, there's not, to me, any kind of immersive world you could step into that would feel like you're in the MCU (as opposed to something like Avatar or Star Wars), but Wakanda might be something along those lines.
 
While I realize anything in those Disneyland proposals was only meant to be placeholders for the idea of potentially putting something in that area at some point in the future, not anything actually in the art there, it does raise in an intriguing thought of whether a Wakanda area/land could be added to WDW. I wonder if this is something that Disney would be allowed to use in Orlando or if it would be restricted because of Universal and the whole theme parks rights issue. I think Wakanda would be a pretty cool basis for an area - maybe more so than most Marvel things. Since most of the MCU takes place in essentially a version of our real world, there's not, to me, any kind of immersive world you could step into that would feel like you're in the MCU (as opposed to something like Avatar or Star Wars), but Wakanda might be something along those lines.

I do not think so because I *think* there is an image of Black Panther somewhere at Universal. The deal covers all represented characters, even if they are just in the backgrounds (i.e. not just the ones with rides - Spider-Man, Hulk, Fantastic Four, and X-Men). The "Avengers Family" is pretty well covered. They can use Guardians of the Galaxy because those characters were very obscure at the time and not really relevant to the properties in the contract. We don't necessarily know every nuance, but if the character is depicted anywhere it is most likely a no-go for WDW.
 
I do not think so because I *think* there is an image of Black Panther somewhere at Universal. The deal covers all represented characters, even if they are just in the backgrounds (i.e. not just the ones with rides - Spider-Man, Hulk, Fantastic Four, and X-Men). The "Avengers Family" is pretty well covered. They can use Guardians of the Galaxy because those characters were very obscure at the time and not really relevant to the properties in the contract. We don't necessarily know every nuance, but if the character is depicted anywhere it is most likely a no-go for WDW.
I thought that was likely the case because I thought I remembered someone mentioning at some point that Black Panther is somewhere in Universal. With the caveat that we don't know the true intricacies of the rights deal (and I'd bet that Disney and Comcast probably wouldn't agree on some of the finer points), I think it raises the interesting question of Wakanda vs. Black Panther as far as a land goes - particularly with there being a Wakanda Disney+ series in the works that might not include Black Panther at all (no idea on that - just a guess that I could see them referencing Black Panther but not having the character in the series at all). Would the rights potentially allow for a Wakanda land/area devoid of Black Panther? I realize unlikely for multiple reasons, but just an interesting concept (kind of like Galaxy's Edge without Luke/Vader, etc. - if there were rights limitations to the original trilogy or the first 6, would Galaxy's Edge still be okay since it doesn't involve anything from those movies - Chewbacca and the Millennium Falcon notwithstanding).
 
I thought that was likely the case because I thought I remembered someone mentioning at some point that Black Panther is somewhere in Universal. With the caveat that we don't know the true intricacies of the rights deal (and I'd bet that Disney and Comcast probably wouldn't agree on some of the finer points), I think it raises the interesting question of Wakanda vs. Black Panther as far as a land goes - particularly with there being a Wakanda Disney+ series in the works that might not include Black Panther at all (no idea on that - just a guess that I could see them referencing Black Panther but not having the character in the series at all). Would the rights potentially allow for a Wakanda land/area devoid of Black Panther? I realize unlikely for multiple reasons, but just an interesting concept (kind of like Galaxy's Edge without Luke/Vader, etc. - if there were rights limitations to the original trilogy or the first 6, would Galaxy's Edge still be okay since it doesn't involve anything from those movies - Chewbacca and the Millennium Falcon notwithstanding).

It's true that we don't really know the all of the details of the deal, but that's what's generally been accepted. I do remember they were able to sue Dr. Strange at Disney and I thought that odd because he is a relatively major character and appeared in teh 90's cartoons that the land at IOA is heavily based on. Interestingly, Avengers was the least popular property back then but they still used them as decor (and I think Captain America has an eatery). Any character that is shown, even possibly just their logo or symbols - and likely associated characters (like villains) are likely covered. I doubt Wakanda would fly without BP considering the big panther shaped rock!

There are no rights issues with the original Star Wars after the Fox merger. There had been some distribution rights and other nuances, especially involving A New Hope, but that is all moot now.
 
It's true that we don't really know the all of the details of the deal, but that's what's generally been accepted. I do remember they were able to sue Dr. Strange at Disney and I thought that odd because he is a relatively major character and appeared in teh 90's cartoons that the land at IOA is heavily based on. Interestingly, Avengers was the least popular property back then but they still used them as decor (and I think Captain America has an eatery). Any character that is shown, even possibly just their logo or symbols - and likely associated characters (like villains) are likely covered. I doubt Wakanda would fly without BP considering the big panther shaped rock!

There are no rights issues with the original Star Wars after the Fox merger. There had been some distribution rights and other nuances, especially involving A New Hope, but that is all moot now.
I agree on what you say with Wakanda and Avengers, etc., just an interesting thought experiment. While I think Disney could potentially try to test the boundaries of that agreement on some of the fleetingly used characters or symbols and try to get a definitive ruling on the terms of the rights deal (particularly since Disney wasn't a party to the deal initially), my guess is they don't want to bother witht hat fight if they don't have to. I think this is even more the case as the MCU expands further and further beyond the original Avengers and brings in more new and "fringier" characters (don't jump on me comic-heads, I'm sure the characters are important).

I realize there are no rights issues with Star Wars, I was just using that as a hypothetical example if there had been some similar rights deal to Marvel at some point, since you could have such a delineation between those originals and the new ones with an area like Galaxy's Edge.
 
I agree on what you say with Wakanda and Avengers, etc., just an interesting thought experiment. While I think Disney could potentially try to test the boundaries of that agreement on some of the fleetingly used characters or symbols and try to get a definitive ruling on the terms of the rights deal (particularly since Disney wasn't a party to the deal initially), my guess is they don't want to bother witht hat fight if they don't have to. I think this is even more the case as the MCU expands further and further beyond the original Avengers and brings in more new and "fringier" characters (don't jump on me comic-heads, I'm sure the characters are important).

I realize there are no rights issues with Star Wars, I was just using that as a hypothetical example if there had been some similar rights deal to Marvel at some point, since you could have such a delineation between those originals and the new ones with an area like Galaxy's Edge.

Hey, I love comics, but a LOT of characters are fringe and unimportant, ha ha!
 
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