13 Year old gir declared brain dead has now officially died

[rickybobby]

Sad case of the tonsillectomy gone bad. Wonder what are people's thoughts about whether she should be kept on ventilator or not?
Proves the old saying "there is no such thing as minor surgery".

 

[clh2]

What a sad situation. A decision that only the parents should be allowed to make, hopefully without any intervention from courts and guardian ad liters etc.

 

[bdcp]

Sad case of the tonsillectomy gone bad. Wonder what are people's thoughts about whether she should be kept on ventilator or not?
Proves the old saying "there is no such thing as minor surgery".

My only thought is her family isn't being realistic and I'm not a big proponent of "pulling the plug" as there are instances where it's done when someone isn't brain dead, but just on feeding tubes in a vegetative state, comatose, etc. And done with court orders. Not the same thing. All surgery has risks, regardless of how routine it is. This is a very rare complication for most surgeries. Her family was apparently told there were risks. Apparently her brain is completely inactive but her family won't accept it. I feel for them all, but they're just prolonging the inevitable.

 

[clh2]

Sad case of the tonsillectomy gone bad. Wonder what are people's thoughts about whether she should be kept on ventilator or not?
Proves the old saying "there is no such thing as minor surgery".

Forgot the rule!

And I will not answer the question, as my opinion doesn't matter.

 

[MSLRAC]

I think this is a very sad situation but that the family is just prolonging the situation. The grandmother is a nurse so you would think that she could get through to the parents.

 

[rickybobby]

Forgot the rule!

And I will not answer the question, as my opinion doesn't matter.

What is the rule?

 

[rickybobby]

If the brain is not active, I wonder if the body can still carry out bodily functions such as bowel movements?

 

[bdcp]

What is the rule?

Quoting the original post. Sometimes people change it and answers don't necessarily make sense.

 

[low-key]

How sad, I would take her off, in my opinion brain dead = dead

 

[rickybobby]

Quoting the original post. Sometimes people change it and answers don't necessarily make sense.

Still not following?

 

[bdcp]

Still not following?

The rule is. Someone starts a thread (in this case you). The first person who answers/responds "quotes" the original post when responding. That way, what was originally posted "stays" in the thread. It prevents the original post from being changed in case the original poster doesn't like the answers or decides to change something without others knowing. In this case, your first post should have been quoted in the first response.

 

[MrsJackSparrow4Life]

Still not following?

The rule is to quote the OP so there is a paper trail so to speak of what was originally posted if they delete or edit their post. Many posters will delete or change their OP if the responses are not what they wanted or expected.

 

[rickybobby]

Was not aware of that, but okay. I am now more smarter.

 

[sonnyjane]

My thoughts are that it's a sad situation, but the family is in denial and needs to let her go. I'd hate for this to be a Terri Schiavo case where she spends FIFTEEN YEARS in a vegetative state before they decide to remove life support.

 

[Belle0101]

<---------------- See my Tag for "The Rule"

 

[bdcp]

My thoughts are that it's a sad situation, but the family is in denial and needs to let her go. I'd hate for this to be a Terri Schiavo case where she spends FIFTEEN YEARS in a vegetative state before they decide to remove life support.

Completely different situation. Terry Schaivo was NOT brain dead. They didn't remove life support, they removed her feeding tube which starved her to death. This current situation involves someone who would die in a matter of minutes if she was taken off a ventilator. Terry Schiavo wasn't on a ventilator. She was merely being fed through a feeding tube.

 

[rickybobby]

Enough about "the rule" already. Give me my flogging and let's move on. Geeeees!

 

[sonnyjane]

Completely different situation. Terry Schaivo was NOT brain dead. They didn't remove life support, they removed her feeding tube which starved her to death. This current situation involves someone who would die in a matter of minutes if she was taken off a ventilator. Terry Schiavo wasn't on a ventilator. She was merely being fed through a feeding tube.

Very true. This case is MUCH more clear in my opinion.

 

[rickybobby]

Completely different situation. Terry Schaivo was NOT brain dead. They didn't remove life support, they removed her feeding tube which starved her to death. This current situation involves someone who would die in a matter of minutes if she was taken off a ventilator. Terry Schiavo wasn't on a ventilator. She was merely being fed through a feeding tube.

The poster did not say they were the same. They only stated that they hope it did not drag on like the Schiavo case. Which brings me back to my original contention, if the brain is dead, can the body continue to live on with artificial life support?
And please, no more rules.

 

[bdcp]

The poster did not say they were the same. They only stated that they hope it did not drag on like the Schiavo case. Which brings me back to my original contention, if the brain is dead, can the body continue to live on with artificial life support?
And please, no more rules.

There was only one "rule'. And the poster said "vegetative state" which isn't the same. Anyway, no if someone is brain dead, they cannot survive without artificial life support. Without brain activity, breathing will cease as will heart beats. Just do a search on brain dead/death and you will get your answers.