tiger04
Earning My Ears
- Joined
- Apr 20, 2014
I am finally getting around to posting my trip report two months later! I apologize for the delay – life and work just kept getting in the way – but I am trying to post as much information as I can for the groups who will be on the next trips as it will be interesting to compare the differences, if any, in the DVC ABD and the regular ABD. Like I said earlier, it was pretty clear they were using the DVC trip as a test run. While I absolutely loved the trip and appreciated the special DVC gifts and talks that were part of the "special" DVC cruise, I would certainly think a little harder before booking an "inaugural" trip in the future because you are definitely the guinea pigs and for all the expense of the trip, I would have liked things to go a bit smoother. But I think that is why they started both the Danube and the Rhine river cruises this way – basically they already have DVC members committed to the product so they are less likely to scare them away in the future
Just some general background, I joined this trip with my parents, who are the DVC members. My brothers were asked as well but I was the only one who could join on this particular week. We also traveled with two other couples that my parents had befriended on past ABD trips. Once my parents decided they wanted to go on this Rhine River Cruise ABD, they told their friends, who signed up as well. It was a fun group and we ate together and hung out at night but often did different excursions during the day so I will try to fill in as much as I can about the other excursions.
So here we go…
Pre-Day 1 (4/16/17)
We decided fairly early on that it made the most sense to fly in at least a day before and book a pre-night to give us some time to get over jet lag and to give us a buffer in case we had any issues getting to Basel for the April 8 departure. My parents have often booked the pre-night with ABD before, so they booked a pre-stay with ABD at the Radisson Blu in Basel. After they booked, I was bored at work so I decided to check out the website to see if the hotel had a pool. I saw how much a similar room would cost and I almost fell over! I think we paid more than double what an equivalent room would have cost if we booked on our own. We ultimately decided to keep the pre-night for the convenience of the airport transfers and transfers from the hotel to the port, but in hindsight I would have booked it all separately and just figured out the transfers on our own as Basel was an easy city to navigate.
We also booked the flights with ABD. They were able to get us much cheaper flights than we were locating on our own and as we bought trip insurance through ABD, it made sense to book the flights through them so that if anything happened with the trip it would be much easier to cancel and to get reimbursed.
So on a stormy afternoon on April 6th, we trekked out to JFK to catch the first leg of the flights from NYC to Amsterdam. Sadly there were no direct flights from the NYC area to Basel, so we had to connect no matter what. The trip to the airport and through security was rather painless, with the caveat that there was a bit of a backup checking in because many people ahead of us had problems that needed to be resolved. The back story to that is that bad storms had come through parts of the south the previous day and airlines were still dealing with all the missed flights and backups. This weather actually impacted one couple in our travel party, who were supposed to fly from Charlotte to JFK and then travel with us the rest of the way. Unfortunately, due to the backup in Charlotte, they never made it to NYC until way after all the Amsterdam flights had left. Then they had to travel to London instead and catch a flight the next night to Basel without their luggage. (End result: it all worked out, they lost a day in Basel but got to sight see in London, and had to get emergency supplies the first day of the cruise until their luggage was located and delivered by day 2 of the trip. And some couple ended up enjoying their seats on Delta One on our flight from JFK to AMS.) As such, I always recommend heading out at least a day earlier, if possible, so that if something crazy happens with your flights you can still make the start of the tour!
We basically just relaxed in the lounge and watched some of the Masters and with the thunderstorms we kept watching the schedule to see if our flight would be delayed (in the hopes that our Charlotte friends would make it to JFK in time to catch the flight). But the signs kept saying “on time” so we wandered down to the gate and boarded. Then we sat on the tarmac for an hour and a half as more storms rolled through. Basically it there was lightning in the area, ground crew could not be on the tarmac and could not finish their tasks. So we had to wait for the all clear before we could push off and taxi to takeoff. Fortunately we had a 2 ½ hour layover in Amsterdam, so I was not too worried about making our connecting flight, but I was happy we had that extra time built in.
Ready to start vacation!
Pre-Day 2 (4/7/17)
After an uneventful flight, we landed in Amsterdam at 7:30 am and then wound our way through passport control. My hopes of grabbing a quick shower in the lounge were dashed when there were too many people waiting ahead of me for the shower. So we decided to head down to the gate and wait to board our cityhopper plane from Amsterdam to Basel. It was this point you started to recognize some people who ended up being on our trip – either because they stuck out from the rest of the business travelers heading to Basel at 8:30 in the morning or because they had the ABD luggage tags on their carry-on bags! KLM boarding at AMS was pretty easy and I do like that you can scan your own tickets at the turnstile to open so you can head down the gangway (rather than having a flight attendant scanning it). We had a bit of a delay again after we boarded because some passenger’s bags had made it to the plane, but the passengers had not, so they had to sort it all out again before we took off. The flight was probably 45 minutes long, but comfortable, and I enjoyed looking out the window to see my first glimpses of Switzerland.
Hello Switzerland!
Once we landed in Basel at around 9:30 local time, it was another fairly quick trip down to grab baggage and then to get out through customs. You will get a reminder letter from ABD reminding you to follow the Switzerland exits, rather than the France/Germany exits, to meet the ABD representative who will bring you to your transportation. Our rep was waiting right outside the exit with a sign, and we ended up having about 30 people transferring all at the same time. I am guessing they all purchased flights through ABD and we were all placed on the same flights or arrived at similar times! Most people seemed to follow the restrictions and brought one regular suitcase and one carry-in suitcase as stated in the guidelines, but it was still a struggle to get all the luggage and people onto the bus. They ended up having to get another van just for luggage and an additional car for more passengers. One other thing to keep in mind – even though our friends who missed the flights had called ABD, the message did not make it to the ABD rep at the airport. She was still looking for them before my mom told her they had been delayed. So it is always a good idea to have all the ABD numbers when you are traveling in case you need to call once your land because the message did not get conveyed to the proper person!
After a 20 minute bus ride, we ended up at the Radisson Blu Hotel. The hotel was nice but basic, but in a great location in the center of the city.
Radisson Blu
We were desperately trying to stay awake at that point and the entire group ended up just sitting in the lobby waiting for the rooms to be ready so we could drop off our luggage and/or sleep. We could have stored our luggage and just gone sightseeing, but I really wanted to get in the room and change as it was going to be in the high-60s and I was dressed too warmly. While we all waited for our rooms to be ready, the staff at the hotel was very helpful and gave us some guidebooks and maps of Basel so we could plan our day. The hotel also gave us a mobility card for each member of our party to utilize public transportation in Basel throughout the stay. This mobility ticket was great because it lets you get around the city so easily! Unlike some other metro systems, you do not need to scan a ticket upon entry. Rather, you just keep your ticket on you and you will just need to show it if the conductor does a random inspection. There is a tram stop right outside the hotel, and you can take it to any hub to change lines if needed.
We relaxed in the lobby for about an hour until our room was ready and we lugged our luggage into the room. As it would only be one night, we did not bother putting anything away and just tried to move the luggage out of the way as three of us were sharing a room. The room was basic but comfortable.
Room for 3!
I took a quick shower and then grabbed the maps and mobility cards and headed back out. We had no set plans – I just wanted to stay moving long enough so that we would not fall asleep as the easiest way to adjust to the time change is to jump right into the new time zone. I wanted to see more of the Rhine and I wanted to climb to the top of the cathedral so I could see views of Basel and the Black Forrest. The hotel was right in the City Centre so it is easy to walk and take the tram around the city. On our way out we ran into our other friends, who had arrived one day earlier. They were going to explore some shops but we wanted to sight see first so we told them we would see them later.
We walked to Theatre Basel and checked out the Tinguely Fountain. We wandered down by the Kuntmuseum and then about checking out the Prado Exhibit, but then we decided to potentially visit it the next day. Then we trekked up to the Pfalz by the cathedral, which had lovely views of the river. I wanted to climb to the top of the cathedral so we paid our swiss francs (fortunately the cathedral accepted credit cards!) and climbed up all the stairs so we can see Basel down below us!
Sooo many stairs to get here!
We went to the markplatz to see City Hall and then we took the bridge over the Rhine to the other side of Basel. There was so much to see and it was lovely just to wander and not be on any particular time table.
Ferry that takes you across the Rhine on a string!
The one issue was that we decided not to get any swiss francs because we would only be in Switzerland for 2 days. But around the middle of the afternoon we were getting hungry and wanted to grab some food. But every place I had in my guidebook that we tried to eat at was closed in the afternoon! I had completely forgotten that is quite common for restaurants to shut down between lunch and dinner. And we had no swiss francs so I could not even get a snack from the food trucks at the marktplatz! We had decided we wanted to eat some more traditional Swiss food, and narrowed it down that way, but all the restaurants we wanted were closed. So we hopped on the 6 tram because the desk clerk at the hotel had recommended taking the 6 tram to see the city. We had to kill some time so we got on the 6 tram to see the city and rest our feet for a bit. It was actually quite cool to take the tram out to Basel West because we got to see more of the residential areas and to go up and down hills further the bustle of the city.
We then stopped by the hotel so I could try to find the mobility card that I thought I left there (it was actually in a different pocket of my purse, of course!) and when I ran up to the room there was a note from Adventures by Disney shoved into the door. I had thought it was strange when we checked in earlier that morning that there was no welcome note or bag from ABD as we booked the pre-night through them. And I thought it even stranger when the piece of paper was sort of wedged in the door. It was basically just a welcome note explaining that guides would be in the lobby tomorrow morning, there will be buses leaving from the hotel to the ship at 12 and 3 pm, or you could make your own way to the ship but you must be there by 5 pm. I grabbed the note and stuffed it in my purse to show my parents.
We hopped on the tram to head to the restaurant, Restaurant Schnabel, which was located up the hill from the marktplatz. We would recommend the restaurant – it was full of locals, which I think is a plus, and the prices were reasonable for Switzerland. You can easily make a reservation on their website and they have menus in English. My parents both got the Weiner schnitzel and I got the faux escargots, which was beef grilled in café de Paris sauce. It was all delicious and we were able to relax at the table for as long as we liked. Just remember that if you are ready and want your check, you must ask the waiter for it. Otherwise they will let you sit all night! We had a leisurely stroll back to the market and took the train to the hotel. It was only about 8:30 pm but we had been up for over 30 hours. I decided to make use of the pool and sauna at the hotel (the pool was lovely and there was a wet and dry sauna), while my parents went to sleep to get ready for our first official day of our ABD Rhine River Cruise!
Just some general background, I joined this trip with my parents, who are the DVC members. My brothers were asked as well but I was the only one who could join on this particular week. We also traveled with two other couples that my parents had befriended on past ABD trips. Once my parents decided they wanted to go on this Rhine River Cruise ABD, they told their friends, who signed up as well. It was a fun group and we ate together and hung out at night but often did different excursions during the day so I will try to fill in as much as I can about the other excursions.
So here we go…
Pre-Day 1 (4/16/17)
We decided fairly early on that it made the most sense to fly in at least a day before and book a pre-night to give us some time to get over jet lag and to give us a buffer in case we had any issues getting to Basel for the April 8 departure. My parents have often booked the pre-night with ABD before, so they booked a pre-stay with ABD at the Radisson Blu in Basel. After they booked, I was bored at work so I decided to check out the website to see if the hotel had a pool. I saw how much a similar room would cost and I almost fell over! I think we paid more than double what an equivalent room would have cost if we booked on our own. We ultimately decided to keep the pre-night for the convenience of the airport transfers and transfers from the hotel to the port, but in hindsight I would have booked it all separately and just figured out the transfers on our own as Basel was an easy city to navigate.
We also booked the flights with ABD. They were able to get us much cheaper flights than we were locating on our own and as we bought trip insurance through ABD, it made sense to book the flights through them so that if anything happened with the trip it would be much easier to cancel and to get reimbursed.
So on a stormy afternoon on April 6th, we trekked out to JFK to catch the first leg of the flights from NYC to Amsterdam. Sadly there were no direct flights from the NYC area to Basel, so we had to connect no matter what. The trip to the airport and through security was rather painless, with the caveat that there was a bit of a backup checking in because many people ahead of us had problems that needed to be resolved. The back story to that is that bad storms had come through parts of the south the previous day and airlines were still dealing with all the missed flights and backups. This weather actually impacted one couple in our travel party, who were supposed to fly from Charlotte to JFK and then travel with us the rest of the way. Unfortunately, due to the backup in Charlotte, they never made it to NYC until way after all the Amsterdam flights had left. Then they had to travel to London instead and catch a flight the next night to Basel without their luggage. (End result: it all worked out, they lost a day in Basel but got to sight see in London, and had to get emergency supplies the first day of the cruise until their luggage was located and delivered by day 2 of the trip. And some couple ended up enjoying their seats on Delta One on our flight from JFK to AMS.) As such, I always recommend heading out at least a day earlier, if possible, so that if something crazy happens with your flights you can still make the start of the tour!
We basically just relaxed in the lounge and watched some of the Masters and with the thunderstorms we kept watching the schedule to see if our flight would be delayed (in the hopes that our Charlotte friends would make it to JFK in time to catch the flight). But the signs kept saying “on time” so we wandered down to the gate and boarded. Then we sat on the tarmac for an hour and a half as more storms rolled through. Basically it there was lightning in the area, ground crew could not be on the tarmac and could not finish their tasks. So we had to wait for the all clear before we could push off and taxi to takeoff. Fortunately we had a 2 ½ hour layover in Amsterdam, so I was not too worried about making our connecting flight, but I was happy we had that extra time built in.
Ready to start vacation!
Pre-Day 2 (4/7/17)
After an uneventful flight, we landed in Amsterdam at 7:30 am and then wound our way through passport control. My hopes of grabbing a quick shower in the lounge were dashed when there were too many people waiting ahead of me for the shower. So we decided to head down to the gate and wait to board our cityhopper plane from Amsterdam to Basel. It was this point you started to recognize some people who ended up being on our trip – either because they stuck out from the rest of the business travelers heading to Basel at 8:30 in the morning or because they had the ABD luggage tags on their carry-on bags! KLM boarding at AMS was pretty easy and I do like that you can scan your own tickets at the turnstile to open so you can head down the gangway (rather than having a flight attendant scanning it). We had a bit of a delay again after we boarded because some passenger’s bags had made it to the plane, but the passengers had not, so they had to sort it all out again before we took off. The flight was probably 45 minutes long, but comfortable, and I enjoyed looking out the window to see my first glimpses of Switzerland.
Hello Switzerland!
Once we landed in Basel at around 9:30 local time, it was another fairly quick trip down to grab baggage and then to get out through customs. You will get a reminder letter from ABD reminding you to follow the Switzerland exits, rather than the France/Germany exits, to meet the ABD representative who will bring you to your transportation. Our rep was waiting right outside the exit with a sign, and we ended up having about 30 people transferring all at the same time. I am guessing they all purchased flights through ABD and we were all placed on the same flights or arrived at similar times! Most people seemed to follow the restrictions and brought one regular suitcase and one carry-in suitcase as stated in the guidelines, but it was still a struggle to get all the luggage and people onto the bus. They ended up having to get another van just for luggage and an additional car for more passengers. One other thing to keep in mind – even though our friends who missed the flights had called ABD, the message did not make it to the ABD rep at the airport. She was still looking for them before my mom told her they had been delayed. So it is always a good idea to have all the ABD numbers when you are traveling in case you need to call once your land because the message did not get conveyed to the proper person!
After a 20 minute bus ride, we ended up at the Radisson Blu Hotel. The hotel was nice but basic, but in a great location in the center of the city.
Radisson Blu
We were desperately trying to stay awake at that point and the entire group ended up just sitting in the lobby waiting for the rooms to be ready so we could drop off our luggage and/or sleep. We could have stored our luggage and just gone sightseeing, but I really wanted to get in the room and change as it was going to be in the high-60s and I was dressed too warmly. While we all waited for our rooms to be ready, the staff at the hotel was very helpful and gave us some guidebooks and maps of Basel so we could plan our day. The hotel also gave us a mobility card for each member of our party to utilize public transportation in Basel throughout the stay. This mobility ticket was great because it lets you get around the city so easily! Unlike some other metro systems, you do not need to scan a ticket upon entry. Rather, you just keep your ticket on you and you will just need to show it if the conductor does a random inspection. There is a tram stop right outside the hotel, and you can take it to any hub to change lines if needed.
We relaxed in the lobby for about an hour until our room was ready and we lugged our luggage into the room. As it would only be one night, we did not bother putting anything away and just tried to move the luggage out of the way as three of us were sharing a room. The room was basic but comfortable.
Room for 3!
I took a quick shower and then grabbed the maps and mobility cards and headed back out. We had no set plans – I just wanted to stay moving long enough so that we would not fall asleep as the easiest way to adjust to the time change is to jump right into the new time zone. I wanted to see more of the Rhine and I wanted to climb to the top of the cathedral so I could see views of Basel and the Black Forrest. The hotel was right in the City Centre so it is easy to walk and take the tram around the city. On our way out we ran into our other friends, who had arrived one day earlier. They were going to explore some shops but we wanted to sight see first so we told them we would see them later.
We walked to Theatre Basel and checked out the Tinguely Fountain. We wandered down by the Kuntmuseum and then about checking out the Prado Exhibit, but then we decided to potentially visit it the next day. Then we trekked up to the Pfalz by the cathedral, which had lovely views of the river. I wanted to climb to the top of the cathedral so we paid our swiss francs (fortunately the cathedral accepted credit cards!) and climbed up all the stairs so we can see Basel down below us!
Sooo many stairs to get here!
We went to the markplatz to see City Hall and then we took the bridge over the Rhine to the other side of Basel. There was so much to see and it was lovely just to wander and not be on any particular time table.
Ferry that takes you across the Rhine on a string!
The one issue was that we decided not to get any swiss francs because we would only be in Switzerland for 2 days. But around the middle of the afternoon we were getting hungry and wanted to grab some food. But every place I had in my guidebook that we tried to eat at was closed in the afternoon! I had completely forgotten that is quite common for restaurants to shut down between lunch and dinner. And we had no swiss francs so I could not even get a snack from the food trucks at the marktplatz! We had decided we wanted to eat some more traditional Swiss food, and narrowed it down that way, but all the restaurants we wanted were closed. So we hopped on the 6 tram because the desk clerk at the hotel had recommended taking the 6 tram to see the city. We had to kill some time so we got on the 6 tram to see the city and rest our feet for a bit. It was actually quite cool to take the tram out to Basel West because we got to see more of the residential areas and to go up and down hills further the bustle of the city.
We then stopped by the hotel so I could try to find the mobility card that I thought I left there (it was actually in a different pocket of my purse, of course!) and when I ran up to the room there was a note from Adventures by Disney shoved into the door. I had thought it was strange when we checked in earlier that morning that there was no welcome note or bag from ABD as we booked the pre-night through them. And I thought it even stranger when the piece of paper was sort of wedged in the door. It was basically just a welcome note explaining that guides would be in the lobby tomorrow morning, there will be buses leaving from the hotel to the ship at 12 and 3 pm, or you could make your own way to the ship but you must be there by 5 pm. I grabbed the note and stuffed it in my purse to show my parents.
We hopped on the tram to head to the restaurant, Restaurant Schnabel, which was located up the hill from the marktplatz. We would recommend the restaurant – it was full of locals, which I think is a plus, and the prices were reasonable for Switzerland. You can easily make a reservation on their website and they have menus in English. My parents both got the Weiner schnitzel and I got the faux escargots, which was beef grilled in café de Paris sauce. It was all delicious and we were able to relax at the table for as long as we liked. Just remember that if you are ready and want your check, you must ask the waiter for it. Otherwise they will let you sit all night! We had a leisurely stroll back to the market and took the train to the hotel. It was only about 8:30 pm but we had been up for over 30 hours. I decided to make use of the pool and sauna at the hotel (the pool was lovely and there was a wet and dry sauna), while my parents went to sleep to get ready for our first official day of our ABD Rhine River Cruise!
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