My comparison of Disney Dream and RCL's Enchantment of the Seas

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Disney Dream vs. Royal Caribbean Enchantment of the Seas



Background: Our family likes Disney, but we in no way subscribe to the “machine” nor do we think Disney is the be-all and end-all. We have traveled twice on Disney Dream in 2013 and 2014. The kids were 3 and 7 the first trip and 4 and 8 the second trip. I have traveled once previously on RCL with just my husband in 2001. The kids were 5 and 9 on this trip. When researching a 4-night Bahamian cruise for Thanksgiving week, both RCL and Disney had the same itinerary (1 day in Nassau, 1 day at private island, 1 day at sea). We always book 2 connecting cabins. Disney wanted $3,200 for 2 connecting interior staterooms and RCL wanted $1,800 for 2 connecting oceanview staterooms. While we were very satisfied with the Dream, we thought we’d experiment with RCL because a) it was cheaper, and b) we wanted to check out a different private island. We knew in advance that Enchantment wouldn’t be as nice as the Dream; it was built in 1997 and revamped in 2005, whereas the Dream was built in 2011. Our main consideration, then, was this: Is Disney Cruise line worth an extra $1,400?



Boarding: Both Disney and RCL had a very smooth boarding process. Both had lines for repeat cruisers and both were relatively painless. Disney has the slight edge on announcing the family name and clapping when you get on board, but overall Boarding = Tie.



Staterooms: We’ve stayed in interior staterooms with magical porthole and balcony staterooms on the Dream, and we stayed in oceanview rooms on EotS. Disney’s rooms were bigger, enough to have a separate couch and true seating area with a curtain that could be drawn all the way across to block half the room if a child was napping. Disney also has the split bath, but that’s never been a selling point to us since we always get two rooms and therefore have two bathrooms anyway. EotS had a little curtain that could be drawn about 4 feet across—we weren’t really sure of its point? There was just one chair in each room, not a sofa (despite the pictures on the website showing a sofa), and not a real sitting area. The real kicker, though, was the cleanliness/appearance. While we didn’t mind EotS looking older (and expected it), there were spots on the bathroom mirror, some dust in the corners, the carpet didn’t look very clean, and worst of all, the windows were so scratched and dirty (in both rooms) that it was very difficult to see out of them! You could also hear people walking above you much worse on EotS. Staterooms = Disney



Entertainment: Two of three of Disney’s shows were great and entertained parents as well as kids. All the EotS shows were awful. Laughable. Like high school drama club bad. Disney had lots of movies and cartoons on demand in the room; EotS just had regular satellite TV. Disney has wave phones so you can keep in touch with your party and your children throughout the ship; EotS did not have this feature. (And they wanted $30/day per device if you bought wireless! Um, no.) Entertainment = Disney



Kids’ services: OK, we knew Disney would blow this one out of the park. We did not expect EotS to have as good a kids’ club as Disney. But…we didn’t expect it to be so pitiful, either. The kids’ club was maybe 600 square feet. Maybe. They had the 3-5 year olds in one little room and all the 6-11 year olds in another room. The club could hold maybe 70 kids max. Maybe. There were no visible toys, or things to play with….just one little abacus that we could see. We felt bad to leave the kids there, whereas on Disney, we knew they were having a great time in the club. On Disney, the kids can eat in the club with their friends off a buffet; EotS offered two night only where kids could eat, and it was pizza and French fries both nights—no other choices. There was no way for the counselors to contact you if the kids had a problem, except they gave beepers to parents of 3-year olds. On Disney they contact you via wave phone if your kids need you, and they have GPS in their wristbands so they can be located immediately. Also, there were zero characters on EotS, despite RCL’s website talking about the Dreamworks experience. Disney has all kinds of character sightings, experiences, and playtime included in the price. Kids’ Services = Disney



Ship Activities: EotS had a climbing wall and a Sky Zone (bungee trampoline park). We never once saw the climbing wall open. Sky Zone was open for maybe 20 minutes before they closed it “due to wind.” Given both attractions’ locations on the ships, wind would always be a factor (top deck, fore and aft of ship) so one wonders how often they get used. The EotS casino was decent, but very smoky, and we hardly used it because as I said we felt bad for leaving the kids in the kids’ club. Disney has a movie theatre and also the Aqua Duck water coaster. It just felt like there wasn’t as much to do on EotS overall except hang out by the pool. Perhaps on a newer RCL ship this would be improved, but on this one, not so much. Ship Activities = Disney



Pools: Here was one area that I felt EotS did better than Disney. The pools were actually large, somewhat swimmable, and deep. The adult pool looked really nice (we didn’t use it, sadly) and it wasn’t in a cut-through area like the Dream’s adult pool. There weren’t movies constantly blaring on the jumbotron like on the Dream (which leads the kids to just stand in the pool and stare at the screen like zombies); rather, kids actually seemed to be enjoying the pool. There were nice bands and music by the pool and it was open 24 hours. EotS did not have a waterslide, which was disappointing, but the kids liked the pools and hot tubs and splash pad a lot. Pools = Royal Caribbean



Overall Ship Appearance: Disney’s ships look like works of art. We’ve parked next to the Magic and the Wonder, and they are the same age as EotS, yet they look brand-new. Our ship looked like the Holiday Inn parked next to the Ritz Carlton (Dream). Disney is constantly cleaning, painting, washing, polishing, spraying, etc. their ships. We hardly saw anyone doing any kind of exterior or common room maintenance or cleaning on EotS. Appearance = Disney


Food: We were pleasantly surprised by the food on EotS. It was consistently good in all areas, whether the dining room or at the buffet. Disney has the edge on having more dining room venues (EotS had one dining room, one buffet and one specialty restaurant, whereas the Dream had 3 dining rooms, one buffet, and two specialties) but I was a little disappointed in Disney’s food. I guess since Disney does most things so well, I had higher expectations. EotS had very good food and an excellent selection of healthy and vegetarian options. Food = Royal Caribbean



Frequent Cruiser Incentives: Disney gave us a lanyard, a tote bag, and a dry erase board. RCL offered several drinks specials, spa and internet discounts, etc. I hear that Disney’s gifts are the same each cruise for each level, so how many tote bags, etc. does one need? The RCL incentives were more useful. Incentives = Royal Caribbean



Private Islands: Oh, Castaway Cay, how I love you. Such a fabulous private island by Disney; perfect beach days with everything included. Coco Cay? I don’t know if I love you, because on the two cruises I’ve been on that were supposed to go to you, both times you’ve been missed “because of wind.” Disney actually docks at Castaway, whereas RCL tenders to Coco (so I hear), so the odds of docking are much higher with Disney. Our waiter informed us that RCL misses Coco Cay “all the time,” so it seems like false advertising to lure people in with promises of a rarely visited private island. We did end up staying in Crap-sau (I mean, Nassau) an extra day to “make up for” missing Coco Cay, but with the cheapest shore excursion that went to a beach in Nassau being $65/pp (this got you a ride over there, but no towels, chairs, or umbrellas) up to $185/pp!! (this let you use Atlantis’ facilities) it was crazy expensive. We ended up going to a tiny beach near the pier by using Hilton points but Nassau is in no way compensation for missing a private island. Private Island = Disney



Overall: While our trip on EotS was good, it wasn’t great. Both trips on the Disney Dream were great. The husband and I both agreed that Disney is worth the price premium for parents of kids. When mine are too old for the kids’ club, I might try RCL again, but I’ll probably avoid itineraries that include their mythical private island. Verdict = Disney Cruise Line is worth the price premium.
 
Disney Dream vs. Royal Caribbean Enchantment of the Seas



Background: Our family likes Disney, but we in no way subscribe to the “machine” nor do we think Disney is the be-all and end-all. We have traveled twice on Disney Dream in 2013 and 2014. The kids were 3 and 7 the first trip and 4 and 8 the second trip. I have traveled once previously on RCL with just my husband in 2001. The kids were 5 and 9 on this trip. When researching a 4-night Bahamian cruise for Thanksgiving week, both RCL and Disney had the same itinerary (1 day in Nassau, 1 day at private island, 1 day at sea). We always book 2 connecting cabins. Disney wanted $3,200 for 2 connecting interior staterooms and RCL wanted $1,800 for 2 connecting oceanview staterooms. While we were very satisfied with the Dream, we thought we’d experiment with RCL because a) it was cheaper, and b) we wanted to check out a different private island. We knew in advance that Enchantment wouldn’t be as nice as the Dream; it was built in 1997 and revamped in 2005, whereas the Dream was built in 2011. Our main consideration, then, was this: Is Disney Cruise line worth an extra $1,400?



Boarding: Both Disney and RCL had a very smooth boarding process. Both had lines for repeat cruisers and both were relatively painless. Disney has the slight edge on announcing the family name and clapping when you get on board, but overall Boarding = Tie.



Staterooms: We’ve stayed in interior staterooms with magical porthole and balcony staterooms on the Dream, and we stayed in oceanview rooms on EotS. Disney’s rooms were bigger, enough to have a separate couch and true seating area with a curtain that could be drawn all the way across to block half the room if a child was napping. Disney also has the split bath, but that’s never been a selling point to us since we always get two rooms and therefore have two bathrooms anyway. EotS had a little curtain that could be drawn about 4 feet across—we weren’t really sure of its point? There was just one chair in each room, not a sofa (despite the pictures on the website showing a sofa), and not a real sitting area. The real kicker, though, was the cleanliness/appearance. While we didn’t mind EotS looking older (and expected it), there were spots on the bathroom mirror, some dust in the corners, the carpet didn’t look very clean, and worst of all, the windows were so scratched and dirty (in both rooms) that it was very difficult to see out of them! You could also hear people walking above you much worse on EotS. Staterooms = Disney



Entertainment: Two of three of Disney’s shows were great and entertained parents as well as kids. All the EotS shows were awful. Laughable. Like high school drama club bad. Disney had lots of movies and cartoons on demand in the room; EotS just had regular satellite TV. Disney has wave phones so you can keep in touch with your party and your children throughout the ship; EotS did not have this feature. (And they wanted $30/day per device if you bought wireless! Um, no.) Entertainment = Disney



Kids’ services: OK, we knew Disney would blow this one out of the park. We did not expect EotS to have as good a kids’ club as Disney. But…we didn’t expect it to be so pitiful, either. The kids’ club was maybe 600 square feet. Maybe. They had the 3-5 year olds in one little room and all the 6-11 year olds in another room. The club could hold maybe 70 kids max. Maybe. There were no visible toys, or things to play with….just one little abacus that we could see. We felt bad to leave the kids there, whereas on Disney, we knew they were having a great time in the club. On Disney, the kids can eat in the club with their friends off a buffet; EotS offered two night only where kids could eat, and it was pizza and French fries both nights—no other choices. There was no way for the counselors to contact you if the kids had a problem, except they gave beepers to parents of 3-year olds. On Disney they contact you via wave phone if your kids need you, and they have GPS in their wristbands so they can be located immediately. Also, there were zero characters on EotS, despite RCL’s website talking about the Dreamworks experience. Disney has all kinds of character sightings, experiences, and playtime included in the price. Kids’ Services = Disney

Just so you know, the kids wristbands do not have GPS in them. They are RFID.
GPS stands for Global Positioning Satellite, so they need line of sight to a satellite. If you have a portable GPS unit, take it in your home and you will see that it does not work. The same as if you have one inbuilt in your car, if your are in a tunnel, it will not work.
RFID use radio frequencies to communicate with a device. So your child can touch a reader or walk through an arch and their band be registered. It does NOT give their current location at all in that kids club area.
It does not work elsewhere on the ship either.
And since the EotS kids clubs are so small, they have no need to use them!



Ship Activities: EotS had a climbing wall and a Sky Zone (bungee trampoline park). We never once saw the climbing wall open. Sky Zone was open for maybe 20 minutes before they closed it “due to wind.” Given both attractions’ locations on the ships, wind would always be a factor (top deck, fore and aft of ship) so one wonders how often they get used. The EotS casino was decent, but very smoky, and we hardly used it because as I said we felt bad for leaving the kids in the kids’ club. Disney has a movie theatre and also the Aqua Duck water coaster. It just felt like there wasn’t as much to do on EotS overall except hang out by the pool. Perhaps on a newer RCL ship this would be improved, but on this one, not so much. Ship Activities = Disney



Pools: Here was one area that I felt EotS did better than Disney. The pools were actually large, somewhat swimmable, and deep. The adult pool looked really nice (we didn’t use it, sadly) and it wasn’t in a cut-through area like the Dream’s adult pool. There weren’t movies constantly blaring on the jumbotron like on the Dream (which leads the kids to just stand in the pool and stare at the screen like zombies); rather, kids actually seemed to be enjoying the pool. There were nice bands and music by the pool and it was open 24 hours. EotS did not have a waterslide, which was disappointing, but the kids liked the pools and hot tubs and splash pad a lot. Pools = Royal Caribbean



Overall Ship Appearance: Disney’s ships look like works of art. We’ve parked next to the Magic and the Wonder, and they are the same age as EotS, yet they look brand-new. Our ship looked like the Holiday Inn parked next to the Ritz Carlton (Dream). Disney is constantly cleaning, painting, washing, polishing, spraying, etc. their ships. We hardly saw anyone doing any kind of exterior or common room maintenance or cleaning on EotS. Appearance = Disney


Food: We were pleasantly surprised by the food on EotS. It was consistently good in all areas, whether the dining room or at the buffet. Disney has the edge on having more dining room venues (EotS had one dining room, one buffet and one specialty restaurant, whereas the Dream had 3 dining rooms, one buffet, and two specialties) but I was a little disappointed in Disney’s food. I guess since Disney does most things so well, I had higher expectations. EotS had very good food and an excellent selection of healthy and vegetarian options. Food = Royal Caribbean



Frequent Cruiser Incentives: Disney gave us a lanyard, a tote bag, and a dry erase board. RCL offered several drinks specials, spa and internet discounts, etc. I hear that Disney’s gifts are the same each cruise for each level, so how many tote bags, etc. does one need? The RCL incentives were more useful. Incentives = Royal Caribbean



Private Islands: Oh, Castaway Cay, how I love you. Such a fabulous private island by Disney; perfect beach days with everything included. Coco Cay? I don’t know if I love you, because on the two cruises I’ve been on that were supposed to go to you, both times you’ve been missed “because of wind.” Disney actually docks at Castaway, whereas RCL tenders to Coco (so I hear), so the odds of docking are much higher with Disney. Our waiter informed us that RCL misses Coco Cay “all the time,” so it seems like false advertising to lure people in with promises of a rarely visited private island. We did end up staying in Crap-sau (I mean, Nassau) an extra day to “make up for” missing Coco Cay, but with the cheapest shore excursion that went to a beach in Nassau being $65/pp (this got you a ride over there, but no towels, chairs, or umbrellas) up to $185/pp!! (this let you use Atlantis’ facilities) it was crazy expensive. We ended up going to a tiny beach near the pier by using Hilton points but Nassau is in no way compensation for missing a private island. Private Island = Disney

You should also look up the miss rate for CC in a year. Just because they have a pier does not mean they can dock every time. The wind and sea currents also affect docking at CC pier.


Overall: While our trip on EotS was good, it wasn’t great. Both trips on the Disney Dream were great. The husband and I both agreed that Disney is worth the price premium for parents of kids. When mine are too old for the kids’ club, I might try RCL again, but I’ll probably avoid itineraries that include their mythical private island. Verdict = Disney Cruise Line is worth the price premium.
 
I understand rationally that sometimes any cruise line can't dock because of weather. For our family, however, Disney has a 100% success rate and RCL has a zero% rate. Is that scientific? No. Do I care about dock rates overall when it's my cruises that are missing the island? No. I will research the docking rates if those figures are available but when it's all said and done, I've visited Castaway twice in February and April and missed Coco twice in May and November. Unless you have missed a port twice in a row you have no idea how disappointing it is.

Edited to add--just Googled "how often does Royal Caribbean miss Coco Cay" and also "how often does Disney miss Castaway Cay"--you get pages of results/message board posts about #1 and just a page about #2. A lot of posters say the miss rate for RCL is 50%. Again, not scientific but enough to suggest a recurring issue that occurs on multiple ships during multiple months of the year.
 
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EoS is a really old ship and their lowest level of amenities. I also like DCL better, but a newer ship (not even the newest) would have updated (and larger) kids' clubs, etc. For some, the difference is worth it (we love the movie theater, movies at the pool, great dining, staterooms, CC and overall ambience of DCL), but with realistic expectations also enjoy RCCL on newer ships--and the price difference is a lot. For ex., a 5 day spring break DCL (Wonder) to CC and Cozumel was $3500 for OV cabin for 4, while an 8 day to 4 ports in the Eastern Carib. on RCCL was $2600 for 4. We asked our teens last night to vote (with such caveats as: no good DCL entertaiment, no movie theater, no rotational dining, smaller room with bunk beds, RCCL sort of boring during the day if not in teens club) and they picked RCCL due to the ports.
CC is enough of a concern that I usually do not consider a cruise that stops there anymore.
 
UHHH...Every RCL ship has a theater. Some have two. BTW, all RCL ships also have movies at the pool on a huge screen, and I presume you mean Pullman beds?
 
I meant a dedicated movie theater--and few RCCL ships still have them. The Freedom class has removed their cinemas/screening rooms. RCCL makes poor use of the pool screens (IMHO) during the day--they typically have sports/poker, etc. and rarely a movie. We were disappointed in the lack of day time movies, esp. on sea days. Our upcoming RCCL cruise appears to play a few more movies during the pm on about 1/2 of the days. And, yes, I meant pullmans. There is no comparison between having 2 pullmans with kids in them over your bed on RCCL and DCL's sofa+ pullman in a separate area with a privacy curtain. DCL room is larger and superior in every respect (IMHO). But, we still choose RCCL sometimes b/c of price and value.
 
I understand rationally that sometimes any cruise line can't dock because of weather. For our family, however, Disney has a 100% success rate and RCL has a zero% rate. Is that scientific? No. Do I care about dock rates overall when it's my cruises that are missing the island? No. I will research the docking rates if those figures are available but when it's all said and done, I've visited Castaway twice in February and April and missed Coco twice in May and November. Unless you have missed a port twice in a row you have no idea how disappointing it is.

Edited to add--just Googled "how often does Royal Caribbean miss Coco Cay" and also "how often does Disney miss Castaway Cay"--you get pages of results/message board posts about #1 and just a page about #2. A lot of posters say the miss rate for RCL is 50%. Again, not scientific but enough to suggest a recurring issue that occurs on multiple ships during multiple months of the year.

Whilst I understand your frustration with not docking at Coco Cay twice, and being able to dock at Castaway Cay twice, as you say, it really isn't scientific, and just means that you have had reasonably good to fair weather on your Castaway docking.
And yes, I can empathize how disappointing it must be to miss the island.

Here are two Dis threads about docking at Castaway if you want to read them.

http://www.disboards.com/threads/docking-at-castaway-cay.3374615/

http://www.disboards.com/threads/po...miss-castaway-cay-due-to-the-weather.2854575/
 
Enjoyed reading your comparison :)

We've been on the Fantasy, and also on Oasis of the Seas and Freedom of the Seas. I think for us the bigger ships were the difference.

For us its
Boarding- Tie
Rooms- Disney (just better right)
Service- Rooms- Disney, Dining Room- Royal (our server had a couple of other intense tables so we were a low priority- we don't mind)
Entertainment- Edge to Disney but we liked the headline shows (hairspray etc, ice shows and the diving show)
Kids Services- DD said tie- we prefer Royal as they did more activities (larger ships) and didn't have all the computers, DD also liked the parade. We LOVED the FE though
Ship Activities- Royal (we enjoyed climbing wall, zipline, flow riders, golf, carousel) we don't bother with movies/tv as we can do that at home
Pools- Royal- I hate the kid soup with zombies that was Fantasy although we loved the Aquaduct
Overall Appearance- Disney of course
food- Royal- we found the Disney food quite bland
Private Islands- tie- we've been to Coco Cay and Labadee so looks like we are lucky there.


We will sail Disney again when the price is decent (ie if we get a booking around opening or GT cabin) but will also look at other lines and do WDW before or after. I should note that we are from Canada so the dollar is very much affecting our Disney travels. Royal I can book in Canadian and also they give a great rate for OBC so if we do book another cruise we would be leaning that way.
 
We've never been on a Disney ship because of the price but have been on Royal 5 times, carnival once. I always just assumed a new Disney ship would be nicer overall than one of RC's oldest ships, but what would I know? We've been on EoS three times, the last was in August. So obviously, we like it. :-) Everytime I price Disney, it's close to double the cost and from what I read, i'm not sure the extra cost is worth it for us. My kids loved the kids club on EoS, they wanted to spend every minute there. Had to drag them out for some family time. ;) They also loved the bungee trampoline, the rock wall and the shows. They are fairly easy to please. We've been to both Coco Cay and Labadee and love both, usually better than wherever else we're visiting (especially nassau). Unlike most people, I am not a fan of cruise food, they all are equal to me. My 7 yr old has been researching cruises by watching youtube videos and has decided on Oasis as our next cruise. However, I have booked Anthem so we can drive to the port. :D
 
Per my prior post, we would rate DCL better in all categories (IMHO), but just booked another RCCL (Freedom class) for 2017 spring break. DCL cruise (7 days) was $7K for 4 persons OV cabin. RCCL was $2.2K for 6 days 4 persons OV cabin. The Freedom class offers really good rates (much more so than Oasis, etc.) and gives a lot of amenities that the older RCCL ships don't have.
 
While I love reading all of these "my ship is better than your ship" comparisons, for us there really is only one comparison that matters: when we sailed exclusively on Disney, we could afford two cruises a year; since we switched to Royal we average 5-6 cruises a year:D
 
Per my prior post, we would rate DCL better in all categories (IMHO), but just booked another RCCL (Freedom class) for 2017 spring break. DCL cruise (7 days) was $7K for 4 persons OV cabin. RCCL was $2.2K for 6 days 4 persons OV cabin. The Freedom class offers really good rates (much more so than Oasis, etc.) and gives a lot of amenities that the older RCCL ships don't have.
After my trip on the Fantasy in October, I was talking to a couple that mentioned the same thing. The price difference is huge. And even if DCL was a better cruise overall (I didn't think it was, but my point of comparison was the Allure, not EoS) saving over $1000pp makes it no contest imo.
 
I believe DCL may be better overall if you have small kids, but I wouldn't compare Enchantment of the Seas to Disney Dream.
It'd be more fair to compare Oasis/Allure to Disney Dream. Just my opinion.

Actually, a better more even comparison, would be Royal's Freedom Class (Freedom, Liberty, Independence). Oasis and Allure are in a class by themselves. No other cruise line has anything like them.
 
Actually, a better more even comparison, would be Royal's Freedom Class (Freedom, Liberty, Independence). Oasis and Allure are in a class by themselves. No other cruise line has anything like them.
Yeah you're probably right, Freedom class. Maybe Oasis class. Maybe.
The only reason I said Oasis class is because they are roughly same age as the Disney Dream.
 
My family and I went on our first cruise last August and we were on RCL's Enchantment of the Seas. We enjoyed it for our first time.....we got a great deal through Costco and had a stateroom with a balcony and a $195.00 on-board credit. I've heard amazing things about the Disney cruise and although we are huge Disney fans, I can't justify the amount of money it costs over other cruise lines. Personally, I'd rather stay land-side and go to WDW for the money to go on a cruise. Can't say we'll "never" do it , but for now, I will stick to RCL insofar as cruises.
 
Thanks for the comparison. RCL has many ships and I think your experience would be different depending on the ship. You have young kids so they probably would have enjoyed a ship with DreamWorks (Oasis or Freedom class, and I think a few others). And on the Freedom and Oasis ships, there are tons more amenities. Some of the newer ships even have full Broadway shows (Mamma Mia, Grease, We Will Rock you, etc), and Oasis has amazing Aqau theatre and other stuff too.
 

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