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- Nov 28, 2012
To clarify, CA law states
"25660. (a) Bona fide evidence of majority and identity of the person is any of the following:
(1) A document issued by a federal, state, county, or municipal government, or subdivision or agency thereof, including, but not limited to, a valid motor vehicle operator s license, that contains the name, date of birth, description, and picture of the person.
(2) A valid passport issued by the United States or by a foreign government.
(3) A valid identification card issued to a member of the Armed Forces that includes a date of birth and a picture of the person."
And it further clarifies
"With respect to 'Federal, State, county, or municipal government, or subdivision or agency thereof', such issuing government or agency shall be located in the United States, and Armed Forces means the United States military."
This isn't Disney rules, this is CA laws. If some place else allowed it, it simply means if something had happened, they would be held responsible.
Disney has its own rules that are very specific and go beyond the requirements for bonafide ID under California law. They only accept state driver licenses or IDs, US military ID, or passports. However, state law allows for other forms of federal, state, county, or city ID. State law also doesn't say temporary ID is invalid, but it would need to have a photo.
I was thinking perhaps a green card might be acceptable under California law, but there's no physical description. Several cities are issuing municipal ID cards to residents. This is the one for Oakland, California, which also doubles as a prepaid debit card. It meets all the requirements under California law. However, I've heard that a few of these cities (not Oakland though) have stated that their cards aren't meant to be used as ID when purchasing alcohol.
I understand that the interpretation of California ABC is that a driver license or any other non-passport ID issued outside of a US state or territory won't do. Some people asked about Canadian provincial driver licenses, and apparently they're not OK under California law as alcohol purchasing ID.
Also, the validity of US passport cards as alcohol ID isn't quite clear, although I've heard that a lot of alcohol training programs say that it's equivalent to a US passport as ID. Like a passport, there's a photo but no other physical description.
And it's not specifically a requirement that ID be required. It's generally just as protection for the seller. It's an affirmative defense that bonafide ID was produced and reasonably matched to the buyer. It's also an affirmative defense that the buyer was of legal age. A uniform policy is meant to prevent employees from selling to underage buyers or at least protection from enforcement efforts.