New 21-Year-Old from WA state: Drinks at DLR

To clarify, CA law states
"25660. (a) Bona fide evidence of majority and identity of the person is any of the following:
(1) A document issued by a federal, state, county, or municipal government, or subdivision or agency thereof, including, but not limited to, a valid motor vehicle operator s license, that contains the name, date of birth, description, and picture of the person.
(2) A valid passport issued by the United States or by a foreign government.
(3) A valid identification card issued to a member of the Armed Forces that includes a date of birth and a picture of the person."

And it further clarifies
"With respect to 'Federal, State, county, or municipal government, or subdivision or agency thereof', such issuing government or agency shall be located in the United States, and Armed Forces means the United States military."

This isn't Disney rules, this is CA laws. If some place else allowed it, it simply means if something had happened, they would be held responsible.

Disney has its own rules that are very specific and go beyond the requirements for bonafide ID under California law. They only accept state driver licenses or IDs, US military ID, or passports. However, state law allows for other forms of federal, state, county, or city ID. State law also doesn't say temporary ID is invalid, but it would need to have a photo.

I was thinking perhaps a green card might be acceptable under California law, but there's no physical description. Several cities are issuing municipal ID cards to residents. This is the one for Oakland, California, which also doubles as a prepaid debit card. It meets all the requirements under California law. However, I've heard that a few of these cities (not Oakland though) have stated that their cards aren't meant to be used as ID when purchasing alcohol.

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I understand that the interpretation of California ABC is that a driver license or any other non-passport ID issued outside of a US state or territory won't do. Some people asked about Canadian provincial driver licenses, and apparently they're not OK under California law as alcohol purchasing ID.

Also, the validity of US passport cards as alcohol ID isn't quite clear, although I've heard that a lot of alcohol training programs say that it's equivalent to a US passport as ID. Like a passport, there's a photo but no other physical description.

And it's not specifically a requirement that ID be required. It's generally just as protection for the seller. It's an affirmative defense that bonafide ID was produced and reasonably matched to the buyer. It's also an affirmative defense that the buyer was of legal age. A uniform policy is meant to prevent employees from selling to underage buyers or at least protection from enforcement efforts.
 
And it's not specifically a requirement that ID be required. It's generally just as protection for the seller. It's an affirmative defense that bonafide ID was produced and reasonably matched to the buyer. It's also an affirmative defense that the buyer was of legal age. A uniform policy is meant to prevent employees from selling to underage buyers or at least protection from enforcement efforts.
Right, the affirmative defense is "We require ID for anyone who appears under the age of 35." Or "We require ID for everyone." And having shoppers come thru to verify this is their back up when something happens. My daughter has only aged out the last 5 years from the shopping program. Even at 25, she was frequently mistaken for a high school student. Now at 31, she still gets IDed almost everywhere on property. The places she doesn't (Carthay) is only because the servers know her age now.

My son has used his state employee ID at Disneyland for ID for alcohol.

Disney also watches who has the yellow cup in their hands. Fastest way to get escorted out of the park is to hand off a yellow cup to a minor. There have been numerous reports of people buying 2 drinks, and handing one of to their 18-20yo friend, and being stopped and escorted.
 
My son has used his state employee ID at Disneyland for ID for alcohol.

Theoretically that's not on Disney's list of acceptable ID for alcohol purchase, but I wouldn't be surprised if a CM accepted it. The "Matrícula Consular" ID issued by Mexico is pretty common, although I don't think it has a physical description.

There's no rule that a business must accept all forms of ID for alcohol purchases that are specified by the state. It's the business's alcohol license that's on the line if a mistake is made with an unfamiliar ID.
 
Once again, thank you for all the responses! I think she'll be okay with her current drivers license as it is valid and has her date of birth.

My son, who was 23 at the time, got turned away from a bar in Seattle with a valid, over 21 license. He looks about 16, has braces and the person who took his ID told him it was fake (it wasn't and was even the Enhanced license). The funny thing was, the guy let my son's friend in with a fake ID!
 


Once again, thank you for all the responses! I think she'll be okay with her current drivers license as it is valid and has her date of birth.

My son, who was 23 at the time, got turned away from a bar in Seattle with a valid, over 21 license. He looks about 16, has braces and the person who took his ID told him it was fake (it wasn't and was even the Enhanced license). The funny thing was, the guy let my son's friend in with a fake ID!

Again, it's up to the business, and it's their alcohol license at stake. I think a lot of servers are trained that when in doubt, err on the side of denying service if the ID seems questionable. If you see a policy that "we ID everyone" or "we ID if you look under 40", that's up to the business and not mandated by the state.
 

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