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Please remember that the new search is still in Beta testing, we expect some glitches and some up and down time.
All of the posts are not indexed yet
All of the posts are not indexed yet
Much better than what we have been dealing with!!
When the improved search is fully functional, will we also have more options such as: (I copied from one of the other boards I frequent, but several different sites use the same format)
Recent Posts Search
Show New Posts from the last: days, hours, minutes.
Search by Key WordKey Word(s):
Search Entire Posts Search Titles Only
Search by User NameUser Name:
Find Posts by User Find Threads Started by User Exact name
or find threads started by user
Find Threads with At Least At Most Replies
Find Posts from Any Date Your Last Visit Yesterday A Week Ago 2 Weeks Ago A Month Ago 3 Months Ago 6 Months Ago A Year Ago and Newer and Older
Sort Results by Relevancy Title Number of Replies Number of Views Thread Start Date Last Posting Date User Name Forum in Descending Order in Ascending Order
or accending order
Show Results asShow Results as Threads Posts
Search by Key WordKey Word(s):
Search Entire Posts Search Titles Only
Is there some documentation on how the search feature is supposed to work?
For instance, if you just enter a word/phrase, should it search through all forums and go back as far as you have data stored? Or is there some standard criteria it will use unless you specify otherwise, such as "posts within the past week"?
I searched on the phrase "chandelier swinger" (a DIS nickname for my DS3) and expected to see posts on the DL Chat thread within the CB. There were no results returned.
So I did an advanced search, leaving the word/phrase text the same but entering a username in that field, which I assumed would narrow the search phrase to posts by that person. I still got no results.
When I used the drop-down list for selecting a date range, I was not sure what to select. Does "Yesterday" refer really to only yesterday, or yesterday through today? Does "Last month" search only in the prior calendar month (May 1 - 31), or 30 days ago, or 30 days through today, or May 1 through today?
I'm guessing the lack of results has to do with the incomplete indexing, but I'm still not sure if my expectations of how the advanced search works is accurate.
Thanks.
ETA: Oops! I totally missed the part of the instructions where it said to change the view to 'California Gold'. Once I did that I did get one thread (result), and when I clicked on it, it brought me to the page containing the most frequent reference of my search criteria.
But I still am unclear on how the search should work for specific criteria. Thanks!
Much better than what we have been dealing with!!
When the improved search is fully functional, will we also have more options such as: .....
Basically "latest posts".. the search in general can be ordered by "latest posts first" (one of two options). So this is basically part of the search. To show ALL posts or threads in such an order is very easy. If Disboards wants to, it can be easily achieved.Recent Posts Search: Show New Posts from the last: days, hours, minutes
Already so.Search Entire Posts
The relevancy of BoardTracker (the new version just as well) is effective enough to negate the need for such seperate feature.Search Titles Only
Already so.Search by User User Name:
See aboveFind Posts by User/ Find Threads Started by User Exact name/ find threads started by user
Do you think its something that makes sense to add as a feature? Note that replies (and views) are presented in the search results so that searchers can easily identify threads with a lot of replies. Your opinion?Find Threads with At Least/At Most Replies
Already supported: Day, Week, Month, Year, All-time.Find Posts from Any Date Your Last Visit Yesterday A Week Ago 2 Weeks Ago A Month Ago 3 Months Ago 6 Months Ago A Year Ago and Newer and Older
The supported features are Sort by date (newer first) and by relevancy.Sort Results by: Relevancy/ Title/ Number of Replies/ Number of Views/ Thread Start Date/ Last Posting Date/ User Name/ Forum (in Descending Order in Ascending Order or accending order)
The option you have (or will have once implemented on disboards) is the option to search in the "Original posts only". This searches only in the thread starters (therefore showing "threads"). This means that you will not see matches if they are in replies. Is that adequate for what you are looking for?Show Results as Threads/Posts
Hopefully its intuitive enough.. But I'll try to answer your questions here...Is there some documentation on how the search feature is supposed to work?
If you just enter a word, it searches ALL the forums and ALL the posts from ALL time.For instance, if you just enter a word/phrase, should it search through all forums and go back as far as you have data stored? Or is there some standard criteria it will use unless you specify otherwise, such as "posts within the past week"?
What's DL? Whats CB?I searched on the phrase "chandelier swinger" (a DIS nickname for my DS3) and expected to see posts on the DL Chat thread within the CB. There were no results returned.
So I did an advanced search, leaving the word/phrase text the same but entering a username in that field, which I assumed would narrow the search phrase to posts by that person. I still got no results.
These searches are for "SINCE" the date you selected.When I used the drop-down list for selecting a date range, I was not sure what to select. Does "Yesterday" refer really to only yesterday, or yesterday through today? Does "Last month" search only in the prior calendar month (May 1 - 31), or 30 days ago, or 30 days through today, or May 1 through today?
The lack of results had to do with the template selection.I'm guessing the lack of results has to do with the incomplete indexing, but I'm still not sure if my expectations of how the advanced search works is accurate.
GREAT news, Alex, you caught my interest. Hope to learn all the ins and outs......new search...
....The relevancy of BoardTracker (the new version just as well) is effective enough to negate the need for such seperate feature.
If what you are searching for is in the title, and you order by relevancy, you will see this post/thread first, or certainly among the first. If you can do the same with less features/options/checkboxes/... its a good thing. no?
Try it and see. Let us know what you found.
What is relevancy, BT? Over the almost year we have been dealing with BT, I have never figured out what that is. I have had a few others ask me too and have never been able to answer them. From what you are saying here, it seems important and helpful though.
Already so.
We will soon add partial username match as well.
EXCELLENT!!
Do you think its something that makes sense to add as a feature? Note that replies (and views) are presented in the search results so that searchers can easily identify threads with a lot of replies. Your opinion?
Any possibility of adding a notation as to what board the resultant threads are on? As an example, there are some game boards here and in doing a search, the results might come back where some posts are withing those game boards, but you have absolutely no interest in going there, wasting time only to find you are now on a game board and going back to the search. The old search (before BT) listed what boards the resultant finds were on. I know you can search by specific board, but you possible do not know what board you are looking for, BUT do know what boards you do NOT want......
........What's DL? Whats CB?
DL=Disneyland CB-community board
The lack of results had to do with the template selection.
Granted though, not all data is in the new system yet, but it will get there.
Will the others skins be operable also?
More feedback on the features and other aspects of the new search is most welcome.
Over the past almost year we have not had search, when looking at BT, I have often wondered (may have asked before also), what the 'Category Search' drop-down function does...Arts & Humanities, Government & People, Home & Family, etc. Way back, I tried to figure it out but never was able to
GREAT news, Alex, you caught my interest. Hope to learn all the ins and outs.
Hey Alex, great to see search is back. And BT, great seeing you here again, welcome back, good to see you.
I have a few thoughts bolded above throughout the quote.
Ask and we shall answerDan Murphy said:Hope to learn all the ins and outs.
Relevancy means that most relevant results show first. Its like when you search google... there are 1000s of results, right? but the top ones are usually the more relevant ones. How does Google know? How do we know? There are statistical ways to measure (likely) relevancy between a document/post and a search term. A part of it is that the more times your searched term appears in the post, the more relevant the post is. And the sooner it appear, the more relevant. That is why things in titles "matter" more, and therefore show higher on the result list.Dan Murphy said:What is relevancy, BT? Over the almost year we have been dealing with BT, I have never figured out what that is.
We actually do have this data. The way the search mod is written now, it does not send it as part of the results. But this is something that could be changed. As for how soon can we look into it, it wont be too soon, but it is something we can indeed add in the future.Dan Murphy said:Any possibility of adding a notation as to what board the resultant threads are on?...
This option is for limiting results based on the "theme" of the forums.Dan Murphy said:...I have often wondered (may have asked before also), what the 'Category Search' drop-down function does...
Oh my god.. 6 letters acronyms :Sagnes! said:
<snip>...Oh my god.. 6 letters acronyms :S
I think posting a guide is a good idea