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IMO there are ways to effectively do a type of walking at 7 months but it is of limited value for obvious reasons.
Yes, it can be done but it's effectiveness is far less certain.
IMO there are ways to effectively do a type of walking at 7 months but it is of limited value for obvious reasons.
IMO there are ways to effectively do a type of walking at 7 months but it is of limited value for obvious reasons.
Yes, it can be done but it's effectiveness is far less certain.
You can do normal walking at 7 months and you're getting ahead of other 7 month owners. You could still be shut out by home resort owners or by a day that was not available in the walking chain. More effective is the process of owning different resorts where you reserve during the home resort window and then cancel and rebook using the none home resort points.The only effective walk at 7 months is a single-step walk. And maybe VGC.
Not to mention having to book FP 60 days out too for me.
The more you plan WDW, the more you get out of it. I think it’s a reasonable trade off.What Bill said about it being too much work to book everything for a DVC Vacation these days.
i absolutely agree with
Bill.
i became acclimated to ALL the changes that make planning/booking
that much harder, & their resultant built-in stressors!!
We cancelled our 17 -night value studio stay which we would be there right now if we had kept it!
For that reservation,
i felt like I was forced to walk,
becuz the 1st night was always tied up!
We just got back from a short stay here in MN on Lake Superior.
It was so relaxing!!!
I realized that I liked not having to plan the heck out of everything!!!
So beyond our points, we will probably never extend our Trips by paying out of pocket.
We prefer to spend $$$ on some nights up north in MN
What Bill said about it being too much work to book everything for a DVC Vacation these days.
i absolutely agree with
Bill.
i became acclimated to ALL the changes that make planning/booking
that much harder, & their resultant built-in stressors!!
We cancelled our 17 -night value studio stay which we would be there right now if we had kept it!
For that reservation,
i felt like I was forced to walk,
becuz the 1st night was always tied up!
We just got back from a short stay here in MN on Lake Superior.
It was so relaxing!!!
I realized that I liked not having to plan the heck out of everything!!!
So beyond our points, we will probably never extend our Trips by paying out of pocket.
We prefer to spend $$$ on some nights up north in MN
The more you plan WDW, the more you get out of it. I think it’s a reasonable trade off.
As DVC members, I normally have at least 2 trips in the pipeline. We normally go every 4-6 months. I usually don’t start planning the next trip (besides booking it) before I’m done with the one before.
That means I normally start booking dining about 5 months out. We ALWAYS go to Be Our Guest. It’s a must do. We never book it at 6 months out. A date always opens up. Always.
Booking FPs at 60 days out only matters for 3 attractions. Frozen, Passage, and 7DMT. Everything else can be fixed on the fly.
Honestly, the prep time for a WDW trip more than makes up for time saved while there. It’s a daunting task for someone new to WDW, to be sure. But if you’re reading this, theoretically you’re a veteran. Planning a WDW trip shouldn’t be your first rodeo and it shouldn’t be all that difficult.
I guess I don’t get the gripe. Especially as frequently as I see lost non-planners trying to make something out of their fantastically expensive vacations.
Here’s the thing, being a veteran planner makes me an uber-user of WDW. That planning, combined with secrets that I’ve learned over time, makes me a one precenter when it comes to WDW. I actually think that’s pretty cool.
The more you plan WDW, the more you get out of it. I think it’s a reasonable trade off.
As DVC members, I normally have at least 2 trips in the pipeline. We normally go every 4-6 months. I usually don’t start planning the next trip (besides booking it) before I’m done with the one before.
That means I normally start booking dining about 5 months out. We ALWAYS go to Be Our Guest. It’s a must do. We never book it at 6 months out. A date always opens up. Always.
Booking FPs at 60 days out only matters for 3 attractions. Frozen, Passage, and 7DMT. Everything else can be fixed on the fly.
Honestly, the prep time for a WDW trip more than makes up for time saved while there. It’s a daunting task for someone new to WDW, to be sure. But if you’re reading this, theoretically you’re a veteran. Planning a WDW trip shouldn’t be your first rodeo and it shouldn’t be all that difficult.
I guess I don’t get the gripe. Especially as frequently as I see lost non-planners trying to make something out of their fantastically expensive vacations.
Here’s the thing, being a veteran planner makes me an uber-user of WDW. That planning, combined with secrets that I’ve learned over time, makes me a one precenter when it comes to WDW. I actually think that’s pretty cool.
Well, it's not just DVC it's any Disney trip. For me, it's the dining more than anything, and it is definitely a trade-off situation. We are pretty relaxed about what rides we get on and deciding when we will or will not spend 60 minutes in line, so FPs don't bother me too much. If they work out cool. If not, oh, well. The only exception being a new attraction that we "have to" try. Otherwise, if we want to go back to Epcot on Tuesday but that's not where our FPs are, whatever.
As for dining, I'm sorry, but I think it's pretty ridiculous. As a new DVC member, we've mostly done trips on free dining in the past. Our entire trip revolves around those TS meals, but it's the only way to eat where we want to and I have a family member (or two) that is hard to feed! The couple trips that we did not do many TS restaurants were 100x lower stress. However, we were soooooo sick of the food by the end of the week and I thought one DD was going to starve to death the whole trip. So, I'm not a fan of that aspect of our trips at all. It is always a tough decision.....to eat or not to eat. lol
Oh, I definitely agree with you!
I actually love to plan.
And I am naturally good @ it!
It NEVER seemed like too much work!
It was a labor of love!!
And we planned all kinds of flexiblity i i our Trips!
ALL of the planning meant we could cancel
an ADR, and/or cancel all our FPs @ one Park,
and get 2-3 more great FPs @ another Park, and
already know where we want to
dine!
The planning has made our Trips much better quality with much more time for spontaneity,
and flexibility!
Thank you for helping me to remember ALL this,
NOW i know WHY I felt that way-/
i am currently suffering from Adrenal Fatigue(makes it difficult to handle stress//even positive changes can feel stressful!)
Subconsciously,
I affiliated our 16-night WDW Trip in Nov./Dec. Trip WITH the Adrenal
Fatigue.
But it was already THERE.
We had a great Trip,
but I was super exhausted when we got home.
Definitely NOT from too much work in planning;
Quite the opposite;
ALL the planning made our Trip tons of fun!
Again, you are SO VERY right about more planning helping to make your Trip even better!
I attest to that!
Sigh.
Bill has a way of convincing me.
Sigh.
This is why I looove DL-other than booking the room, almost nothing needs to be planned in advance. We haven’t been to WDW for awhile-I cannot wait until I get to ask my husband “honey, where do you think you want to have dinner six months from now on a Tuesday?”. He will not be thrilled.
Just how much I hate this “walking” going on especially holiday times.
Yes, there were folks who did not like “day by day” booking, but it does seem fairer to me. Yes, there are folks who say the “fix” will not be palatable, but we have had this current reality for awhile now, let someone come up with a new idea we can try.
Usually there is a time to meet MS folks at the December meeting, usually I seek out Joy, she knows what I am going to say, but I still say it. We bought DVC resorts to be able to have an 11 month booking advantage, and some members prevent us from having that because they are walking.
Sincerely,
Bobbi
How is it cheating to follow the rules as currently interpreted by the rule-makers? By definition, cheating means not following the rules. The current rules as interpreted allow it.I couldn’t agree more. The word walking makes it sound so harmless but let’s call it what it is. Cheating other members. Walking is just some people thinking it is OK to just put themselves in front of other DVC members. Pretty sad.
I disagree. This is not in accordance with the rules. They made a concession to accommodate a shortcoming (the +7), and people are using it beyond its purpose to their individual advantage.How is it cheating to follow the rules as currently interpreted by the rule-makers? By definition, cheating means not following the rules. The current rules as interpreted allow it.
You might not like walking, but you have just as much chance as the walkers do to get the reservation you want.
In any ‘first come, first served’ system, the people willing to spend the effort to be first (walking, camping out early) will have a decided advantage.
You aren’t being cheated. You have the same options.
It might be a tad selfish, but I didn’t spend tens of thousands of dollars to hold the door open for my fellow timeshare owners.Cheating may be a stretch, but selfish and inappropriate seem to fit.
IMO it is inappropriate and it likely is outside the rules to a degree. It's certainly outside the spirit of the rules even if DVCMD (which has 100% authority in reservations process) has been allowing it. My interpretation is they didn't think about this when they made the 7 days at at time change but since it wasn't outside the ways they normally did things in general, they decided not to try to fix it at that time. I suspect they will eventually but they'll screw that up too because they'll do something that nibbles at it rather than come up with an absolute solution like all changes are cancelation/rebooking and/or a fee for such cancelations/changes. I do not believe they purposefully created this situation. But I do agree that as long as it is the way it currently is, it is an options and I think DVC is who to be upset with, not the other members. Still when they do fix it, I'm going to enjoy the board discussion on the subject. Here's an analogous items that I suspects bothers more people but is clearly within the rules, that of spec renting high demand times which is 100% within the rules assuming volume isn't sufficient to invoke commercial renting (currently 20 reservations a year).I disagree. This is not in accordance with the rules. They made a concession to accommodate a shortcoming (the +7), and people are using it beyond its purpose to their individual advantage.
And other people don’t have the same ability. People with more points or fewer reservations have an advantage when booking more days than they intend to use.
Cheating may be a stretch, but selfish and inappropriate seem to fit.
I couldn’t agree more. The word walking makes it sound so harmless but let’s call it what it is. Cheating other members. Walking is just some people thinking it is OK to just put themselves in front of other DVC members. Pretty sad.
I disagree. This is not in accordance with the rules. They made a concession to accommodate a shortcoming (the +7), and people are using it beyond its purpose to their individual advantage.
And other people don’t have the same ability. People with more points or fewer reservations have an advantage when booking more days than they intend to use.
Cheating may be a stretch, but selfish and inappropriate seem to fit.
I suspect they will eventually but they'll screw that up too because they'll do something that nibbles at it rather than come up with an absolute solution like all changes are cancelation/rebooking and/or a fee for such cancelations/changes.