I don't think Wilderness Lodge is the comparison for Riviera. I actually think the comparison is the Poly or historically speaking the GF.
How there is zero view, does not have dual transportation (soon to be trio as walking will be added), and has a view of the Magic Kingdom (not a moderate resort).
It 100% is Wilderness Lodge. Lake Views, possible to see fireworks from resort in certain locations, and singular non-bus transportation (boat vs skyliner).
This sentiment illustrates why Disney has been seeking to rid itself of the Value, Moderate, and Deluxe categories. For what it's worth, I don't see being adjacent to Carribean Beach as a negative as far as views or for lack of a better word, status, is concerned.
A couple things Moderate vs Deluxe is based on location, quality of hotel, density of guests, and price tag.
The issue being directly connected to CBR is you have a resort with 1500 rooms with a good portion of those rooms directly connected to your primary transportation. Think if GFV had all of Kidani (the smaller of AK) getting on its Monorail/Boat stops.
You realize with BWV the longest walk to the HS Skyliner is 1/2 mile and the longest walk at RIV to the Skyliner is 1/5 mile. That is a 3/10ths of a mile extra to just walk to HS than ride the Skyliner. Which by the way has an exchange at CBR where all RIV, CBR, AOA, and POP all load to go to HS.
Thanks for making me laugh! “Moderate land”? “Views of a lake with a moderate on the other side”? Are you trying to confirm the stereotype that all DVC members are snobs?
I have no issues looking at a Moderate resort but its not on the same tier as Poly or GFV which look on MK. I have no issues sharing transportation with CBR but again its not to the same level at BWV where you can walk to the same two resorts. I have no issues only taking transportation to the parks but its not on the same level as BLT which can walk to MK.
The whole purpose of my comment was about someone saying they thought RIV had the best location for the Epcot/HS parks which I am stating is false and a big portion of that is being tied to a moderate resort.
Disney is the one who classifies CBR as a lesser resort because of the Location, Quality, and Size of the resort. That is not my ranking as I have zero experience with physically staying at that resort. Many people love the resort which is great. Not overpaying for a lesser product is called frugal by the way not being a snob.