Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[rteetz]

As others have mentioned we are going in circles here. I don’t have intentions to close this thread but the more we do that the more likely I am to do so.

 

[CAQDaddy]

Psst... Did you actually read the article you linked to?

From your own article:
"data from Hong Kong indicating that their widespread use in the community may have reduced the spread of coronavirus in some regions. "

"the organisation maintained that while masks could help limit the spread of the disease, they were insufficient on their own "

WOW!!! Exactly what I said -- Masks DO WORK. Not by themselves, not as a replacement for other methods. But used in conjunction with other types of mitigation, they WORK!!!

So let's see the the Center for Disease Control (CDC) says:

"In light of this new evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies) "

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/cloth-face-cover.html
So let's see ---- Both WHO and the CDC are saying that masks help to reduce disease transmission!!!!!
No, they are insufficient on their own. You need to do more than JUST masks. But you absolutely shouldn't be doing LESS than masks.

And no, masks do not stop healthy people from getting sick. If you are healthy, wearing a mask... and get into a crowd with sick-non-masked people, you will get sick. The point is -- if you are healthy, and you get into a crowd of people, and EVERYONE is wearing a mask, then greatly reduces the chance of an infected person from transmitting the disease.

I am skeptical of the CDC and I don't trust the WHO at all, but I still think the masks would be helpful. I also know for a fact that wearing a helmet when driving my car will significantly reduce my chance of serious injury in a car accident, but I don't put on a helmet when I drive.
When I read what Iger said in the interview I got the feeling he was promoting a situation that would comfort potential guests more than actually trying to legitimately reduce the spread. I'm not suggesting he is not concerned about the spread, just that his first concern I'm making guests feef comfortable so they will return to the resort.

 

[ilanakan]

But the masks don't prevent the spread, or at least don't protect the healthy from the virus.

What they do is protect the healthy from the sick. Especially when many have the virus, but are a-symptomatic.

 

[ilanakan]

But the masks don't prevent the spread, or at least don't protect the healthy from the virus.

What they do is protect the healthy from the sick. Especially when many have the virus, but are a-symptomatic.

 

[hertamaniac]

In thinking of strategies to potentially mitigate the risk of the virus spreading at WDW, there are several options that came to mind:

• Hand sanitizers at each entrance AND exit for each attraction/theater/eatery (with CM enforcement at the entrances)
• Mickey stickers taped/adhered to the ground, spaced appropriately, at attraction/eatery queues
• Mickey stickers taped/adhered to the ground, spaced appropriately, on the MK ferry boats
• Taped off every other seat (or proper interval) at theater attractions
• Taped off, or Mickey stickers, spaced appropriately on the monorail

I am ignoring costs.

 

[Jroceagles]

https://www.disboards.com/threads/w...ates-due-to-coronavirus.3796390/post-61730772

so is this like insider info? I have a family member who worked there for years and still does consulting and he is pretty firm that they will be open and full go by June. So your source may be right.

 

[lilypgirl]

That is completely offensive. How can you negate an entire culture because of one practice by a certain portion of the population? That is the definition of stereotyping and racism. Entirely offensive.

I’m not condoning the markets nor animal cruelty but there are horrible and disgusting practices amidst all cultures, including American and Canadian cultures.
It is horrible to keep dogs in cages like that. Horrible for any living being. Including children....

I appreciate your response but I stand by mine! Stay healthy and safe!

 

[Jroceagles]

It has more to do with it than you want to believe. There are a lot of things behind the scenes being discussed and worked on. And none of them involve opening before July. And even that gets more questionable each day.

source?

 

[lilypgirl]

In thinking of strategies to potentially mitigate the risk of the virus spreading at WDW, there are several options that came to mind:

• Hand sanitizers at each entrance AND exit for each attraction/theater/eatery (with CM enforcement at the entrances)
• Mickey stickers taped/adhered to the ground, spaced appropriately, at attraction/eatery queues
• Mickey stickers taped/adhered to the ground, spaced appropriately, on the MK ferry boats
• Taped off every other seat (or proper interval) at theater attractions
• Taped off, or Mickey stickers, spaced appropriately on the monorail

I am ignoring costs.

I wish they would do several of these all the time not just when we are dealing with a virus.

 

[yankeesfan123]

so is this like insider info? I have a family member who worked there for years and still does consulting and he is pretty firm that they will be open and full go by June. So your source may be right.

Almost everything you read on here is our opinions and beliefs, mostly formed by viewing other countries, listening to the experts, seeing the modeling, and looking to other similar entertainment venues. This leads to many people believing parks will not be open in June (especially June 1 due to the recent CP cancellation that was scheduled to begin that day).

 

[MichelinMan]

Psst... Did you actually read the article you linked to?

From your own article:
"data from Hong Kong indicating that their widespread use in the community may have reduced the spread of coronavirus in some regions. "

"the organisation maintained that while masks could help limit the spread of the disease, they were insufficient on their own "

WOW!!! Exactly what I said -- Masks DO WORK. Not by themselves, not as a replacement for other methods. But used in conjunction with other types of mitigation, they WORK!!!

So let's see the the Center for Disease Control (CDC) says:

"In light of this new evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies) "

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/cloth-face-cover.html
So let's see ---- Both WHO and the CDC are saying that masks help to reduce disease transmission!!!!!
No, they are insufficient on their own. You need to do more than JUST masks. But you absolutely shouldn't be doing LESS than masks.

And no, masks do not stop healthy people from getting sick. If you are healthy, wearing a mask... and get into a crowd with sick-non-masked people, you will get sick. The point is -- if you are healthy, and you get into a crowd of people, and EVERYONE is wearing a mask, then greatly reduces the chance of an infected person from transmitting the disease.

Might be worth just sharing the official line from the UK Health and Safety Executive. The experts there are saying that face masks are only required in a clinical setting, and that they are not necessary elsewhere in society.

 

[Jroceagles]

Almost everything you read on here is our opinions and beliefs, mostly formed by viewing other countries, listening to the experts, seeing the modeling, and looking to other similar entertainment venues. This leads to many people believing parks will not be open in June (especially June 1 due to the recent CP cancellation that was scheduled to begin that day).

yea I get that, but he said he had a source and I am asking because my family member is pretty consistent with the June 1 thing and he is very close to these decisions.

 

[Farro]

Dr. Fauci now saying Americans may be able to take summer vacations, go to ball games, etc., .... summer opening for Disney looks better and better!


Speaking to CBS This Morning, Fauci was asked if he could envision a typical summer, filled with vacations, baseball games, weddings and family reunions.

“It can be in the cards,” he said.

But he warned:

“And I say that with some caution, because as I said, when we do that, when we pull back and try to open up the country, as we often use that terminology, we have to be prepared that when the infections start to rear their heads again that we have it in place a very aggressive and effective way to identify, isolate, contract trace and make sure we don't have those spikes we have now. So the answer to your question is yes, if we do the things that we need to do to prevent the resurgence."

Getting back to normal is not like a light switch that you turn on and off, Fauci said, adding it’ll be gradual and depend on where in the country you live.


“The bottom line of it all is, that what we see looking forward, it is very likely that we will progress towards the steps towards normalization as we get to the end of this thirty days. And I think that’s going to be a good time to look and see how quickly can we make that move to try and normalize. But hopefully, and hopefully, by the time we get to the summer we will have taken many steps in that direction," he added.

 

[yankeesfan123]

yea I get that, but he said he had a source and I am asking because my family member is pretty consistent with the June 1 thing and he is very close to these decisions.

No problem. His post was 10 days ago, too. A lot has changed.

Everyone can have their unnamed sources. For all I care, that’s the equivalent of the bus driver telling me the Villains Park is definitely still in the works and will be open in a few years. But that’s part of the fun speculation.

Maybe you want to ask your unnamed source why they canceled the CP arrivals on 6/1 if they planned to be open? Was it because they’ll open in phases? Or they don’t want CP living in dorm like apartments?

Can you ask your source if 6/1 is for Disney Springs only to start? All parks open and ready to go? We’d all love more details.

 

[C&Jx2]

Dr. Fauci now saying Americans may be able to take summer vacations, go to ball games, etc., .... summer opening for Disney looks better and better!


Speaking to CBS This Morning, Fauci was asked if he could envision a typical summer, filled with vacations, baseball games, weddings and family reunions.

“It can be in the cards,” he said.

But he warned:


Getting back to normal is not like a light switch that you turn on and off, Fauci said, adding it’ll be gradual and depend on where in the country you live.


“The bottom line of it all is, that what we see looking forward, it is very likely that we will progress towards the steps towards normalization as we get to the end of this thirty days. And I think that’s going to be a good time to look and see how quickly can we make that move to try and normalize. But hopefully, and hopefully, by the time we get to the summer we will have taken many steps in that direction," he added.

Yes! Stay home now so we can enjoy summer later!

 

[Jroceagles]

Dr. Fauci now saying Americans may be able to take summer vacations, go to ball games, etc., .... summer opening for Disney looks better and better!


Speaking to CBS This Morning, Fauci was asked if he could envision a typical summer, filled with vacations, baseball games, weddings and family reunions.

“It can be in the cards,” he said.

But he warned:


Getting back to normal is not like a light switch that you turn on and off, Fauci said, adding it’ll be gradual and depend on where in the country you live.


“The bottom line of it all is, that what we see looking forward, it is very likely that we will progress towards the steps towards normalization as we get to the end of this thirty days. And I think that’s going to be a good time to look and see how quickly can we make that move to try and normalize. But hopefully, and hopefully, by the time we get to the summer we will have taken many steps in that direction," he added.

OPTIMISM!! This is what we need. The ramifications of the economy being shut down too long could do more damage in some cases. We need to get the ball rolling as soon as we can.

 

[Jimmy Mouse]

No problem. His post was 10 days ago, too. A lot has changed.

They are still saying the same thing as of last night. May 19th is a tentative day.

 

[DavidHobart]

false and false.
masks, when universally worn, prevent asymptomatic carriers from transmitting. Go to Taiwan and S. Korea.. you’ll see masks and temperature checks works.
And yes, temperature checks don’t catch asymptomatic carriers (that’s what the masks are for).
But which situation is better: 30 coronavirus carriers walk into the theme park (no temp checks). Or only 10 carriers walk into the park. ( block the 20 symptomatic carriers).

no single mechanism is 100% foolproof. The point is to combine multiple mechanism to reduce the R0 below 1.0.

finally some common sense...

 

[Jroceagles]

No problem. His post was 10 days ago, too. A lot has changed.

Everyone can have their unnamed sources. For all I care, that’s the equivalent of the bus driver telling me the Villains Park is definitely still in the works and will be open in a few years. But that’s part of the fun speculation.

Maybe you want to ask your unnamed source why they canceled the CP arrivals on 6/1 if they planned to be open? Was it because they’ll open in phases? Or they don’t want CP living in dorm like apartments?

Can you ask your source if 6/1 is for Disney Springs only to start? All parks open and ready to go? We’d all love more details.

Like I said I have a family member that worked there for 25 years and now does consulting. I asked him his opinion from what he has heard so far and he told me that they need to open ASAP. June is what he is hearing. I did not ask for other details. He told me I was good for my late August trip there barring any unforeseen huge changes. I will ask him about the CP next time we talk. I think that is an extension of the furloughs and could be amended if need be?

 

[kymom99]

In thinking of strategies to potentially mitigate the risk of the virus spreading at WDW, there are several options that came to mind:

• Hand sanitizers at each entrance AND exit for each attraction/theater/eatery (with CM enforcement at the entrances)
• Mickey stickers taped/adhered to the ground, spaced appropriately, at attraction/eatery queues
• Mickey stickers taped/adhered to the ground, spaced appropriately, on the MK ferry boats
• Taped off every other seat (or proper interval) at theater attractions
• Taped off, or Mickey stickers, spaced appropriately on the monorail

I am ignoring costs.

I thought of that but what if you had a small child who wanted to sit next to a parent? That’s really the only issue I would see with using every other seat or something like that. Especially in a dark theater type show