Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[e_yerger]

I think the one thing we're all forgetting is that the US is made up of 50 separate governments. This means that they could put travel bans/restrictions on the hot spot areas of the county. So areas such at the NY Tri-State, and similar, may not be able to travel in or out of for a longer period of time. Additionally, similar to what the Florida Gov did, they could put quarantine restrictions on people coming FROM those hot spots. Shanghai is putting 14 day quarantines on anyone coming into the city.

This may be something we have to face. Maybe Disney World will open, but due to government restrictions, only certain people will even be able to fly into MCO.

As someone who lives in the NY Tri-State, I am actively worried about a scenario like this.

There is a large wide net between all or nothing, and it will be interesting to see how the individual states deal with this.

 

[havoc315]

Sure, the middle ground is those at risk stay in. Continue holding off on international flights, allow those on Disney property to attend the parks and limit the amount of “walk ups” or non AP/Disney property guests. Plenty of logical measures can be taken, but almost never will it be enough for some, people which is fine. So be it.

Even a company like Disney cannot survive a 3-6 month shutdown. You are being naive if you think so, not to mention the hundreds of thousands of workers who lose everything.

The whole objective of this was to “flatten the curve”. Well, outside of a few cities we’ve flattened it so much that nurses and medical workers are being furloughed throughout the country.

So now what? Move the goalposts again and say people can’t have their freedoms back until there are no reports of the virus? Anywhere?? That is absolutely unrealistic and an illogical demand. There will ALWAYS be risks in life, you cannot let it control you.

When the numbers drop we get back to it. Wash your hands, be smart, take precautions and if you are someone that is at risk stay home as long as your heart desires. Isolate as needed.

The rest of us are ready to live life.

Not saying Disney can survive. Just like the cruise lines will not survive.

I am saying -- "those at risk stay home" was studied -- And it's an inadequate response.

The middle ground is far more robust mitigation measures.

Here is a good summary of the theme park middle ground, is it's being implemented in countries recovering from virus:

https://www.thejakartapost.com/travel/2020/04/06/chinas-theme-parks-ride-again.html

 

[GeorgiaHoo]

Not saying Disney can survive. Just like the cruise lines will not survive.

I am saying -- "those at risk stay home" was studied -- And it's an inadequate response.

The middle ground is far more robust mitigation measures.

Here is a good summary of the theme park middle ground, is it's being implemented in countries recovering from virus:

https://www.thejakartapost.com/travel/2020/04/06/chinas-theme-parks-ride-again.html

Masks don’t work, and temperature tests are pointless since they don’t catch those asymptomatic.

 

[wdw_dine_junkie]

At least one Wall Street Analyst disagrees that the cruise lines won't survive

https://thepointsguy.com/news/cruise-lines-survive-shutdown-bankruptcy/

 

[Jrb1979]

Sure, the middle ground is those at risk stay in. Continue holding off on international flights, allow those on Disney property to attend the parks and limit the amount of “walk ups” or non AP/Disney property guests. Plenty of logical measures can be taken, but almost never will it be enough for some, people which is fine. So be it.

Even a company like Disney cannot survive a 3-6 month shutdown. You are being naive if you think so, not to mention the hundreds of thousands of workers who lose everything.

The whole objective of this was to “flatten the curve”. Well, outside of a few cities we’ve flattened it so much that nurses and medical workers are being furloughed throughout the country.

So now what? Move the goalposts again and say people can’t have their freedoms back until there are no reports of the virus? Anywhere?? That is absolutely unrealistic and an illogical demand. There will ALWAYS be risks in life, you cannot let it control you.

When the numbers drop we get back to it. Wash your hands, be smart, take precautions and if you are someone that is at risk stay home as long as your heart desires. Isolate as needed.

The rest of us are ready to live life.

They can have their freedom back. I don't everything magically going back to normal once they flatten the curve. They will slowly open things up with Disney and places with large gatherings to be last. If you open everything to quickly there is a good chance you will be back at square one.

 

[Jimmy Mouse]

So..... does anyone really have a guess to a reopening date? Educated or just out of hope...but a guess.

https://www.disboards.com/threads/w...ates-due-to-coronavirus.3796390/post-61730772

 

[OnceUponATime15]

So much talk of the prospects of life in the Parks upon reopening . I’m thinking.., wonder how the Resorts will handle things? From common areas, to restaurants & snack bars.. from pools. to laundry rooms to bars & lounges... surfaces.. fabrics.. walls, floors, fridges, microwaves.. coffee makers.. and in & on & on... How much cleaning & sanitizing, is enough cleaning & sanitizing to halt the possibility of exposure. hmmmm...
Thinking out loud...

 

[havoc315]

Masks don’t work, and temperature tests are pointless since they don’t catch those asymptomatic.

false and false.
masks, when universally worn, prevent asymptomatic carriers from transmitting. Go to Taiwan and S. Korea.. you’ll see masks and temperature checks works.
And yes, temperature checks don’t catch asymptomatic carriers (that’s what the masks are for).
But which situation is better: 30 coronavirus carriers walk into the theme park (no temp checks). Or only 10 carriers walk into the park. ( block the 20 symptomatic carriers).

no single mechanism is 100% foolproof. The point is to combine multiple mechanism to reduce the R0 below 1.0.

 

[rteetz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1248020944444153858

 

[wallawallakids]

https://www.disboards.com/threads/w...ates-due-to-coronavirus.3796390/post-61730772

Interesting. Certainly much earlier then I would have thought, but as proven over and over, none of us really know anything! It’s all best guess for now

 

[Remy is Up]

They furloughed a ton of people today. The parks arent opening until july at least. May as well be prepared for that.

 

[Jroceagles]

They furloughed a ton of people today. The parks arent opening until july at least. May as well be prepared for that.

Furloughs have nothing to do with park opening. Its there to protect jobs and the company.

 

[Farro]

I am so, so glad I already booked our hotel for May 2021. I have a feeling 2021 will book up before the packages even come out!!!

And if they do limit bookings, at least I'm already in.

 

[DynamicDisneyDuo]

Furloughs have nothing to do with park opening. Its there to protect jobs and the company.

If you furlough people, that means you have to bring them back and get them back up to speed. That takes time.

 

[xuxa777]

This thread has gotten so long we are going in circles here

 

[Remy is Up]

Furloughs have nothing to do with park opening. Its there to protect jobs and the company.

It has more to do with it than you want to believe. There are a lot of things behind the scenes being discussed and worked on. And none of them involve opening before July. And even that gets more questionable each day.

 

[wallawallakids]

This thread has gotten so long we are going in circles here

It’s true!!! It’s like our lives now. The same. Everyday. Lol

 

[GeorgiaHoo]

false and false.
masks, when universally worn, prevent asymptomatic carriers from transmitting. Go to Taiwan and S. Korea.. you’ll see masks and temperature checks works.
And yes, temperature checks don’t catch asymptomatic carriers (that’s what the masks are for).
But which situation is better: 30 coronavirus carriers walk into the theme park (no temp checks). Or only 10 carriers walk into the park. ( block the 20 symptomatic carriers).

no single mechanism is 100% foolproof. The point is to combine multiple mechanism to reduce the R0 below 1.0.

I guess I’ll trust the World Health Organization on this one. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...stop-healthy-people-getting-covid-19-says-who

 

[Jimmy Mouse]

They furloughed a ton of people today. The parks arent opening until july at least. May as well be prepared for that.

You seem so certain. Can you site your source?

 

[havoc315]

I guess I’ll trust the World Health Organization on this one. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...stop-healthy-people-getting-covid-19-says-who

Psst... Did you actually read the article you linked to?

From your own article:
"data from Hong Kong indicating that their widespread use in the community may have reduced the spread of coronavirus in some regions. "

"the organisation maintained that while masks could help limit the spread of the disease, they were insufficient on their own "

WOW!!! Exactly what I said -- Masks DO WORK. Not by themselves, not as a replacement for other methods. But used in conjunction with other types of mitigation, they WORK!!!

So let's see the the Center for Disease Control (CDC) says:

"In light of this new evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies) "

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/cloth-face-cover.html
So let's see ---- Both WHO and the CDC are saying that masks help to reduce disease transmission!!!!!
No, they are insufficient on their own. You need to do more than JUST masks. But you absolutely shouldn't be doing LESS than masks.

And no, masks do not stop healthy people from getting sick. If you are healthy, wearing a mask... and get into a crowd with sick-non-masked people, you will get sick. The point is -- if you are healthy, and you get into a crowd of people, and EVERYONE is wearing a mask, then greatly reduces the chance of an infected person from transmitting the disease.