Disney Masks ... Predictable

[TLSnell1981]

Any thought as to whether or not the UV will damage the mask? Or maybe you're not using it on the mask? I've heard of what hospitals are doing to reuse masks. I've seen pictures of rooms where they get gassed by some disinfectant.

I don't know but these don't have a seal, aren't used frequently and never very long. (I am talking about personal use) Although I'm not sure how much we benefit from masks in an everyday setting. Cloth masks with or without filters provide almost none and regular surgical mask only a small percentage. I'm not wearing an N95. I prefer hygiene and staying away from sick people or social distancing.

I've had the light for a while and use it for travel. I know it's not perfect but may help. It seems a good time to use it.

 

[TLSnell1981]

I cannot imagine wearing a mask all day at Disney! I honestly don’t think I could. I had to wait in line for the grocery store (TJs, not doing that again) for maybe 10-15 minutes. It’s definitely not summer yet but we’ve been hitting around 90 and it was rough for just that 15 minutes. By the time I waited, shopped and got back in my hot car my face already felt kind of damp.

I’m pretty sure once it’s up in the high 90s with heat index of 100+ in the summer people are going to be sweating through their masks. I thought once masks get damp they stop doing what they’re supposed to do. It’s going to be interesting!

Can you imagine the tan lines

 

[FigmentSpark]

I went to order. But it said they won’t be available until July. I have no idea what July is going to look like.

That was my thinking, particularly since I was having them shipped to Canada... ($40 for shipping + duty and taxes + postal fee for collecting duty and taxes!), but either I will be needing them as the new normal or they will become the first edition collectibles that, if kept pristine, will be worth something in 40 years... or my grandchildren will get to wear them as halloween masks.

 

[NotUrsula]

I've been to China a few times over the years. I didn't recall seeing a whole lot of mask wearing in the 80s and 90s, but by about 2008 it was pretty common. There might have been some sort of tradition, but it sounded to me like SARS is where a lot more people started wearing masks.

It has gone in cycles. The wave rose in 1910, again in 1918 for the flu, again about 10 years late for cholera, etc. It had just been kind of while since the last cycle when SARS appeared, but since SARS there has not been much let-up, as zoonotic diseases seem to be turning up more often. Of course, that the population of China has become much more affluent & mobile than they used to be in the old Mao-suit days has also contributed.

 

[wombat_5606]

Cloth masks with or without filters provide almost none and regular surgical mask only a small percentage.

Where did you get this information? Please share.

 

[TLSnell1981]

Where did you get this information? Please share.

Have you ever read the fine print?

 

[wombat_5606]

Have you ever read the fine print?

The fine print on what? A surgical mask? No. A bandana, No.

 

[Victoria3]

I cannot imagine wearing a mask all day at Disney! I honestly don’t think I could. I had to wait in line for the grocery store (TJs, not doing that again) for maybe 10-15 minutes. It’s definitely not summer yet but we’ve been hitting around 90 and it was rough for just that 15 minutes. By the time I waited, shopped and got back in my hot car my face already felt kind of damp.

I’m pretty sure once it’s up in the high 90s with heat index of 100+ in the summer people are going to be sweating through their masks. I thought once masks get damp they stop doing what they’re supposed to do. It’s going to be interesting!

Correct. The face mask doesn't work if there's moisture in it.

Masks are 'normally' worn for pollution in Asia plus this must be recent addition for when they open again as when you look at pictures of Disneyland Shanghai no one has been wearing masks and of the people i know who have been they have never had to wear masks. This will lead to people thinking they are OK as you can't get the virus when eating. Also what will they do with the masks, put them on the table, in their bag, etc.? After all no one will know if the mask has the virus on it

My thoughts exactly. It's also recommended to put on a new mask each time you take it off.

 

[TLSnell1981]

The fine print on what? A surgical mask? No. A bandana, No.

Included in packaging? They may provide some benefit for large droplets and are recommended for single use. They are considered to be disposable. A bandana?

Personally I believe they offer little protection in everyday use and would never depend on either for protection against COVID19.

Correct. The face mask doesn't work if there's moisture in it.
My thoughts exactly. It's also recommended to put on a new mask each time you take it off.

Although that is unlikely to happen in everyday casual use. Especially when they aren’t readily available.

 

[wombat_5606]

Included in packaging? They may provide some benefit for large droplets and are recommended for single use. They are considered to be disposable. A bandana?

Personally I believe they offer little protection in everyday use and would never depend on either for protection against COVID19.

Although that is unlikely to happen in everyday casual use. Especially when they aren’t readily available.

I don't have the availability to buy surgical masks, so, I don't have any packaging to look at.

I'm just wondering where I can verify your statement. The info I read said it might not be the most effective, but it's better than nothing. The articles say you are still going to have to social distance while you wear a mask. I don't think I'm going to depend on a mask to protect me from Covid. I'm just going to use it as one of the tools available to me, along with social distancing and staying at home more often.

 

[bcla]

Where did you get this information? Please share.

The CDC guidance on wearing "cloth face coverings" is that the primary reason to recommend them for the public is to reduce the spread from asymptomatic carriers.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/diy-cloth-face-coverings.html​

CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies), especially in areas of significant community-based transmission.​

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CDC also advises the use of simple cloth face coverings to slow the spread of the virus and help people who may have the virus and do not know it from transmitting it to others. Cloth face coverings fashioned from household items or made at home from common materials at low cost can be used as an additional, voluntary public health measure.​

Medical personnel have been wearing N95 masks and clear plastic face shields, which specifically are meant to trap contaminants before they're breathed in by the wearer.

Surgical/procedure/waiting room masks are specifically meant to keep contaminants from the wearer from escaping. They're certainly not as well sealed as a proper N95 mask. It's pretty hard to breathe through an N95 mask that's been properly sealed.

I've seen some weird stuff to now that some sort of mask is required indoors. I've seen a few not cover their noses. I'm pretty sure they're doing this to breathe a little easier, but it's defeating the purpose of requiring a mask in public.

 

[bcla]

I don't have the availability to buy surgical masks, so, I don't have any packaging to look at.

I'm just wondering where I can verify your statement. The info I read said it might not be the most effective, but it's better than nothing. The articles say you are still going to have to social distance while you wear a mask. I don't think I'm going to depend on a mask to protect me from Covid. I'm just going to use it as one of the tools available to me, along with social distancing and staying at home more often.

Most are marketed as providing "infection control" unless they're specifically N95 (or greater) respirators.

 

[TLSnell1981]

I don't have the availability to buy surgical masks, so, I don't have any packaging to look at.

I'm just wondering where I can verify your statement. The info I read said it might not be the most effective, but it's better than nothing. The articles say you are still going to have to social distance while you wear a mask. I don't think I'm going to depend on a mask to protect me from Covid. I'm just going to use it as one of the tools available to me, along with social distancing and staying at home more often.

I would NEVER expect anyone to use information on the DIS to make medical decisions . Everyone should use whatever precautions makes them feel safe and comfortable....and also conform to any establishments stated policies.

Btw..You stated they may not be the most effective while I said almost none to a small percentage. Not sure why you want to argue ?

 

[wombat_5606]

The CDC guidance on wearing "cloth face coverings" is that the primary reason to recommend them for the public is to reduce the spread from asymptomatic carriers.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/diy-cloth-face-coverings.html​

CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies), especially in areas of significant community-based transmission.​

​

CDC also advises the use of simple cloth face coverings to slow the spread of the virus and help people who may have the virus and do not know it from transmitting it to others. Cloth face coverings fashioned from household items or made at home from common materials at low cost can be used as an additional, voluntary public health measure.​

Medical personnel have been wearing N95 masks and clear plastic face shields, which specifically are meant to trap contaminants before they're breathed in by the wearer.

Surgical/procedure/waiting room masks are specifically meant to keep contaminants from the wearer from escaping. They're certainly not as well sealed as a proper N95 mask. It's pretty hard to breathe through an N95 mask that's been properly sealed.

I've seen some weird stuff to now that some sort of mask is required indoors. I've seen a few not cover their noses. I'm pretty sure they're doing this to breathe a little easier, but it's defeating the purpose of requiring a mask in public.

Yes, I'd read all that. I was just wondering about the statement that it provided almost no benefit and that a surgical mask provides a small percentage. When I asked about it, I didn't really feel like I got a very nice or helpful answer.

On another thread, I'd posted this chart that someone sent me and what I'd read was saying it will at least help, if you practice social distancing also. Therefore, I was interested in what that poster stated and where I could find the information to pass onto my friends.

I would NEVER expect anyone to use information on the DIS to make medical decisions . Everyone should use whatever precautions makes them feel safe and comfortable....and also conform to an establishments stated policies.

Btw..You stated they may not be the most effective while I said almost none to a small percentage. Not sure why you want to argue ?

I'm not arguing with you. I'm just trying to get information. So many people nowadays are just telling you what they think and what they see on TV, so I like to back up my information with my sources. That's all I'm asking for.

 

[cabanafrau]

Any thought as to whether or not the UV will damage the mask? Or maybe you're not using it on the mask? I've heard of what hospitals are doing to reuse masks. I've seen pictures of rooms where they get gassed by some disinfectant.

A team at Michigan State University developed a process using heat as a means of disinfecting masks for reuse by the medical personnel at Sparrow Hospital in Lansing, MI. It's been a few weeks since I read the article, but I believe the turnaround time was 3 days. I'm not sure how long the masks were actually receiving heat treatment and how long they were simply left sitting before being packaged to send back to the hospital.

 

[TLSnell1981]

Most are marketed as providing "infection control" unless they're specifically N95 (or greater) respirators.

Do you think these are intended for casual use? Ones that are used repeatedly, draped around your neck, constantly touched and contaminated, etc? My concern is too many falsely rely on masks or bandanas as PROTECTION from infection.

 

[cabanafrau]

Do you think these are intended for casual use? Ones that are used repeatedly, draped around your neck, repeated touched and contaminated, etc? My concern is too many falsely rely on masks or bandanas as PROTECTION from infection.

My understanding of laypeople walking around with masks is to mitigate the amount of bacteria and viruses the mask wearer can potentially spread through coughing, sneezing, talking, even just breathing. I believe it's masks that have a respirator component to them (like N95) that are actually intended to have real capability of keeping the wearer from breathing in unwanted things.

 

[Searc]

The mask tradition in Asia goes a lot farther back than the SARS epidemic. It really took hold among laymen there after an outbreak of airborne pneumonic plague in 1910. In Japan, it has long been considered the polite thing to do to wear a mask to keep your coughs to yourself. That's the key to the whole idea of surgical masks (as opposed to N95s): it is not about what you avoid catching FROM others, it is about what you avoid spraying ON others when you cough or sneeze. The P word we should be thinking of is "polite", not "paranoid".

There are lots of very dry papers on the history of medicine that discuss mask-wearing customs and campaigns, and a quick PubMed search will find hundreds of them if you want to read research. For a quicker read with interesting photos, this article from Bloomberg gives a nice laymen's overview: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-04-10/medical-face-masks-an-illustrated-history.

BTW, the better type of bag to store a mask between uses is a paper bag, not a plastic one. The virus dies more quickly on paper than on plastic, and the longer a mask stays damp, the longer pathogens are likely to survive on it. That will become more important the hotter the weather gets. Also, if you are concerned about a mask being hot to wear, go with a lighter color; it will help some. In a situation where you expect extended wear, you should carry 2 of them; so that you can let one dry out while you wear the other one.

I'd rather people were just taught to cover their mouths when they cough or sneeze.

 

[wombat_5606]

I'd rather people were just taught to cover their mouths when they cough or sneeze.

In the Covid situation, we even have to worry about talking and laughing too. That's where I think wearing anything over your mouth and nose will help, at least better than nothing.

 

[bcla]

Do you think these are intended for casual use? Ones that are used repeatedly, draped around your neck, constantly touched and contaminated, etc? My concern is too many falsely rely on masks or bandanas as PROTECTION from infection.

I'm under no allusions that wearing the same mask over and over again with cleanings every few days is going to protect me. I think of it as something to block stuff coming out of my mouth/nose from exiting in any kind of liquid state, which is totally in line with CDC recommendations for the public to wear masks. That's precisely what standard surgical/procedure masks are for. You known, when there's a patient who may have something exposed, or even extremely exposed like with open heart surgery.