Women Leaves Children in Hotel Pool Unattended. Refuses to Gives Room Number.

[jaybirdsmommy]

I don't get how this can automatically be accepted as discrimination and I don't think the employee should have been fired unless that was evidence of other discriminatory acts. She said she asked for the key because the kids were alone and mom was sitting in a car. If other people were doing the same thing and weren't questioned THEN there would be a problem. While there are certainly often negative associations with the phrase "people like you" she could have very well meant "people who sit in their cars while their children swim."

This reminds me of an instance when I was growing up and we were in San Francisco. We were walking down the street and a man jumped in front of my dad and said "You're staring at me because I'm black!" My dad was surprised and blurted out "I'm staring at you because you're wearing a crazy hat." Fortunately the man laughed and moved on. We were all glad it hadn't turned into a major incident!

Exactly, but given the current environment many people did jump to that conclusion, including the woman in the video. I even saw an article on my facebook feed last night that had hundreds of commenters calling for the police officers who responded to the call to be fired as well.

The employee shouldn't have said "people like you" and the conversation with the guest should have been handled differently. Like someone upthread said, better employee training may have avoided this altogether.

 

[Jennasis]

The employee didn't call the police because there were unsupervised kids in the pool.

 

[Hikergirl]

So the mom was sitting in her parked car outside the pool while her young children were left in the pool unattended. That is strike 1 as children are not allowed in hotel pools without an adult.
The woman then refused to give any information to the employee so that they can confirm she was a guest.
The normal procedure according to the article is to involve police when there is a trespassing.
Sorry mom you are in the wrong, if you aren't going to give the information you were asked for to prove your unattended children weren't trespassing and it's hotel policy to involve the police then they will be called.
This wasn't about the color of your skin, it was about your decision to disregard the pool rules and then not cooperate with a hotel employee when asked.
But hey, it's the race card and that can't be questioned so the hotel fires the employee so their hotel doesn't get burned down.

 

[cobright]

She says she was targeted because she was black. I say, if you leave your children in a pool and walk to your car, I am not believing anything you say. Color had nothing to do with this.

In the end, she was just a negligent parent that was indeed a guest in the hotel.

Here's the actual location...


She was within 50 feet of her kids at the furthest. She had direct line of sight. It's in broad daylight. If she had actually done anything wrong, she would have been cited.

The hotel employee did not call the cops and tell them that a woman was neglecting her kids. The hotel called the police to report a trespasser.

If you think it's unfair of this woman to suspect racism singled her family among all the people who had swam in that pool that day for suspicion of trespassing, I don't think you've spent much time in NC.

If you think it's fine that a business' first reaction to seeing a black person on their property being to call the police, I think you've been living under a mushroom.

 

[penn19]

Please take your children to the restroom when they are at a pool. A 7 year old should not be left alone at a pool no matter what. A drowning can happen so fast.

I think the police were called because the negligent mother would not give her room number and she thought she was trespassing. Although, I do think trespassing is going to be ok soon. Just look the other way and never ask questions.

See something, say something has gone out the window. Your life could be ruined over it.

 

[Hikergirl]

Here's the actual location...
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She was within 50 feet of her kids at the furthest. She had direct line of sight. It's in broad daylight. If she had actually done anything wrong, she would have been cited.

The hotel employee did not call the cops and tell them that a woman was neglecting her kids. The hotel called the police to report a trespasser.

If you think it's unfair of this woman to suspect racism singled her family among all the people who had swam in that pool that day for suspicion of trespassing, I don't think you've spent much time in NC.

If you think it's fine that a business' first reaction to seeing a black person on their property being to call the police, I think you've been living under a mushroom.

She left her kids in the pool area unattended. Sitting in your car even with line if sight does not equal being with them in the pool area.
The hotel called the police on a trespasser because she refused to provide any information to prove that she was a guest and not a trespasser.
If you think that the only reason she got the cops called on her because she is black then you are the reason why racism is alive and well in this country.
The problem in this country is that people want to always use the color of their skin as the reason they were wronged instead of actually looking at their own behavior and actions.
Maybe had this woman stayed in the pool area with her kids none of this would have happened because she would not have looked like a trespasser. But yeah, it's just because she's black. Give me a break.

And I'm sure if this was a white woman, you'd all be saying the same things instead of saying she should have stayed at the pool with her kids.

 

[RamblingMad]

She says she was targeted because she was black. I say, if you leave your children in a pool and walk to your car, I am not believing anything you say. Color had nothing to do with this.

In the end, she was just a negligent parent that was indeed a guest in the hotel.

Boy, CNN can really write a headline, can't they?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/01/us/hampton-inn-black-family-pool-trnd/index.html

Avoid CNN and Fox News. They’re both terrible.

 

[cobright]

1. So the mom was sitting in her parked car outside the pool while her young children were left in the pool unattended. That is strike 1 as children are not allowed in hotel pools without an adult.
2. The woman then refused to give any information to the employee so that they can confirm she was a guest.
3. The normal procedure according to the article is to involve police when there is a trespassing.
4. This wasn't about the color of your skin, it was about your decision to disregard the pool rules and then not cooperate with a hotel employee when asked.

Sorry mom you are in the wrong, if you aren't going to give the information you were asked for to prove your unattended children weren't trespassing and it's hotel policy to involve the police then they will be called.

But hey, it's the race card and that can't be questioned so the hotel fires the employee so their hotel doesn't get burned down.

1. A child is not unsupervised when their parent is a stones throw from them, literally watching them.
2. The woman showed the hotel her ID when she checked in and received her key, which she showed to the hotel employee.
3. Past, present and future, lot's of horrible practices get labeled "normal".
4. No part of the complaint mentioned pool rules.

There's no cause to suspect that a woman holding a working room key is trespassing. The hotel's written policy is that ID is needed at check in. There's no policy stating that guests must show ID to staff whenever asked. You can't suspect someone of a crime (in the legal sense) based on them refusing to do something they aren't legally obligated to do. And you can't trespass a renter unless they have violated the terms of their rental agreement.

A business that calls the police on customers who haven't broken the law doesn't deserve customers.

 

[karen4546]

I was in Simba's clubhouse with my grandchildren one rainy afternoon in December and a guy brought his daughter in and left and did not come back for over 2.5 hrs. i know this because i saw him come in AND she interacted with my granddaughters since there were not many children there. I actually don't know when he came back since we left to eat Mickey Bars at the Mara.

Simba's is NOT a drop off for baby sitting.

 

[cobright]

The hotel called the police on a trespasser because she refused to provide any information to prove that she was a guest and not a trespasser.

When you rent a hotel room, they look at your ID and they give you a key. If that key gets you through the door, there is a presumption that you have a right to be there.

There was no evidence that this woman was trespassing (obviously since she wasn't). There's no obligation to show photo ID to anyone except the front desk at check-in.

The employee called the police because this guest wouldn't jump through her hoops.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

She left her kids in the pool area unattended. Sitting in your car even with line if sight does not equal being with them in the pool area.
The hotel called the police on a trespasser because she refused to provide any information to prove that she was a guest and not a trespasser.
If you think that the only reason she got the cops called on her because she is black then you are the reason why racism is alive and well in this country.
The problem in this country is that people want to always use the color of their skin as the reason they were wronged instead of actually looking at their own behavior and actions.
Maybe had this woman stayed in the pool area with her kids none of this would have happened because she would not have looked like a trespasser. But yeah, it's just because she's black. Give me a break.

And I'm sure if this was a white woman, you'd all be saying the same things instead of saying she should have stayed at the pool with her kids.

De Nile. It isn't just a river in Egypt. Racism is alive and well in this country because of racists, not because of those that point it out. I'd have stayed at the pool. But there is NO evidence the police were called regarding child neglect. There is NO evidence she was cited for it. And there is NO evidence the police even investigated it. And if they did there was NO probable cause for an arrest. Further. She showed her room key. That is evidence she wasn't trespassing. There is absolutely no evidence she broke any law of any kind. The child neglect angle is nothing more than a pretense without which you'd simply claim she must have done something to deserve it anyway.

 

[Pink Partridge]

She was within 50 feet of her kids at the furthest.

Unacceptable.

 

[Pink Partridge]

Avoid CNN and Fox News. They’re both terrible.

100% agree. On both!

Always open to suggestions as far as news outlets go.

 

[sam_gordon]

I think mistakes were made on both sides.

First, the woman should NOT have left her kids and gone and sat in her car. Even 50' away is too far. You want to make a bet the car was running and the AC was on, which would make it hard to hear a commotion IF there was a problem?

Second, I still don't understand what prompted the worker to ask for proof of occupancy. I understand she made her rounds of the pool and saw some unattended kids. Then wouldn't the next move be to ask the kids were their guardian was, and when pointed out, tell the mother she needs to stay in the pool area or the kids need to leave the pool area. Then it should have stopped.

Why would did she think that family was trespassing? Because the mom was in the car? I don't see that logic.

I understand why she called police, she thought the family didn't belong there. But I don't see how she makes that leap. I'm sure this isn't the first family to leave kids in the pool area while the guardian goes somewhere else (to the bathroom, back to the room to get a book, whatever).

 

[RamblingMad]

100% agree. On both!

Always open to suggestions as far as news outlets go.

I stick to Sky News via PlutoTV. Locally I read Phoenix New Times. Financially, I read Bloomberg mainly for Levine’s opinion column. For political neutral news, I read AP or Reuters.

 

[ziravan]

The police were called because by refusing to identify herself as a guest she was likely trespassing. How trespassing is enforced is typically first via a CTW - a criminal trespass warning. You aren’t getting the police involved because of the current trespass but rather, to create a record (essentially a warning ticket) to prevent the next one.

That’s SOP.

And people trespass pools all the time. There’s a reason WDW pays people to mind the entrances to SAB. The biggest offender of local pools are typically teenagers. That might not have been the case this time but I’d bet money it’s a common occurrence and frequently requires employee intervention.

The SOP likely goes something like this:

1. If anything seems out of the ordinary, ask for proof of stay.

2. If “guest” declines to provide proof or denies being a guest, ask to leave.

3. If no 2 doesn’t resolve situation, ask for police to issue CTW.

The unattended kids was enough to trigger no.1 and everything else is straight forward from there. Employee was probably doing the same thing they’d already done twice a week every week the pool is open.

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

I was skimming People for mindless celebrity gossip and came across this. It looks like the employee has been fired

https://people.com/human-interest/hampton-inn-staffer-fired-calling-cops-black-guest-pool/

 

[cobright]

First, the woman should NOT have left her kids and gone and sat in her car. Even 50' away is too far.

50' is the furthest she could have been from the pool in that lot based on google maps. She may have been much closer. And she claims she had them in sight the entire time. I wouldn't say walking off from your kids while they swim is a great idea, but an argument can be made that a child being directly watched by their mother from a distance of 10-15 yards is not 'unsupervised'. But then, the police weren't called on a suspicion of child neglect.

If I had to guess, I have left my hotel room without ID dozens of times? I'm of an age where no one cards me if I order a cocktail and my wife carries a purse with payment methods in it. I certainly wouldn't take more than a room key with me to go for a swim. It would never even occur to me that a hotel employee might demand more of me than my room key.

The police were called because by refusing to identify herself as a guest she was likely trespassing.

She identified herself by showing her room key. Do trespassers usually have working key-cards?

I know if I see a woman with two kids and a working key-card at a hotel pool, it never enters my mind she's "likely trespassing". An employee who draws that conclusion from that evidence deserves to lose her job.

 

[mi*vida*loca]

Who takes their ID to a Hampton pool?

I only take my ID to resort pools that I may be purchasing an alcoholic beverage. Like when I stay at Disney. I don’t carry it at all inclusive pools either.

 

[kymom99]

Who takes their ID to a Hampton pool?

I only take my ID to resort pools that I may be purchasing an alcoholic beverage. Like when I stay at Disney. I don’t carry it at all inclusive pools either.

She had to have a way to get into her car. So did she have her purse? A wallet?

I must have missed something anyway. I thought they asked her to give her name and room number and she refused.