Woman refuses to wear mask in ER

[TLSnell1981]

I'm saying the sooner its taken care of, the better it will heal and you will have fewer issues in the future.
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Agreed. Why wait for an apt with a specialist?

Right. Take two aspirin and call the ortho in the morning. Well worth hours in the ER and thousands of $$.

 

[CdnCarrie]

Oh we have idiots up here too! Along with conspiracy nutcases.

In our province you should be going to urgent care for a broken finger not ER. Urgent Care is a 24/7 walk in clinic - ER is for life threatening events - heart attacks, shootings, stabbings, car accidents. Not broken fingers.

ERs get abused here as idiots cannot figure out to contact their family doctor or go to a walk-in/urgent care rather than go to the ER for something like strep throat or a broken finger. Idiots.

Eta

urgent care in my province

See Urgent Care for things like:

• illnesses or injuries that cannot wait for you to see your family doctor
• fevers, flu symptoms, rashes or infections
• dehydration
• cuts that won’t stop bleeding
• injured limb that might be broken or sprained
• any other urgent, but not life-threatening, conditions

Urgent care centres are able to provide services not available in many doctors’ offices, such as stitches and casts, but are not equivalent to emergency departments.
Urgent care centres help conserve emergency department resources for more serious, life-threatening conditions. Patients are seen based on their medical need, not order of arrival.

 

[CdnCarrie]

Right. Take two aspirin and call the ortho in the morning. Well worth hours in the ER and thousands of $$.

Thousands of $$$?

 

[Kitty 34]

I thought the issue here in this thread was the fact the woman refused to wear a mask not the reason why she should be in the ER with her child or not?? Right?

Carry on.........

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I'm not going to fault the woman for going to the ER for a broken bone. Things depend on the situation.

But really guys is that the big thing here? If you were at the Urgent Care or the normal doctor's office wouldn't you want to wear a mask AND want others to wear masks too?

So ER, Urgent Care or normal doctor's office, whatever these are places where it's quite important to wear a mask.

In this case the woman should have just donned the mask for the time period it was needed. It was not the time for some big grand statement to be made on her point--you went there for an injury, get that handled and get out.

 

[fab1976]

Oh we have idiots up here too! Along with conspiracy nutcases.

In our province you should be going to urgent care for a broken finger not ER. Urgent Care is a 24/7 walk in clinic - ER is for life threatening events - heart attacks, shootings, stabbings, car accidents. Not broken fingers.

ERs get abused here as idiots cannot figure out to contact their family doctor or go to a walk-in/urgent care rather than go to the ER for something like strep throat or a broken finger. Idiots.

Eta

urgent care in my province

See Urgent Care for things like:

• illnesses or injuries that cannot wait for you to see your family doctor
• fevers, flu symptoms, rashes or infections
• dehydration
• cuts that won’t stop bleeding
• injured limb that might be broken or sprained
• any other urgent, but not life-threatening, conditions

Urgent care centres are able to provide services not available in many doctors’ offices, such as stitches and casts, but are not equivalent to emergency departments.
Urgent care centres help conserve emergency department resources for more serious, life-threatening conditions. Patients are seen based on their medical need, not order of arrival.

Which province? Urgent Care is starting to become more a “thing” in the Toronto area but I only know of one and it’s not 24/7

 

[mommasita]

Which province? Urgent Care is starting to become more a “thing” in the Toronto area but I only know of one and it’s not 24/7

Yes, I googled and saw that there. We really only have emergency clinics. I would much prefer what sounds like Urgent care, because if you had a broken bone they are not equipped for casting, so if Needed you would still need to go to a hospital.

I do agree o the original point of this thread though, this woman should have just worn a mask.

 

[CdnCarrie]

Manitoba

Turns out that lady had a sprained finger. Not even broken.
She should not have been at the ER for that.

 

[kyton]

I didn’t watch the video - trying to avoid giving idiots any extra airtime - but it is interesting to read how different countries / states handle things.

Here in Australia if you have any suspected broken bone, you go straight to ER. They X-ray, diagnose then decide whether to admit or treat and release. My daughter went through a klutz stage 2yrs ago - came a cropper off her skateboard hurting her elbow. We actually let it go overnight thinking it wasn’t serious but the next morning my husband took her to the ER where they xrayed, diagnosed a small fracture then gave her a plaster cast. They then made an appt for a follow up 2wks later in the Ortho dept.

Then last year she tripped over a tennis ball, landing on her ankle so this time we went straight to the ER as she was in a lot of pain. Again xrayed but thankfully they diagnosed a very bad sprain so wrapped it and gave her crutches to use.

Total cost for both these diagnoses - $38 AUD for the crutches. We don’t have Urgent Care - it’s ER or normal hospital.

 

[fab1976]

Manitoba

Turns out that lady had a sprained finger. Not even broken.
She should not have been at the ER for that.

Manitoba is the one province I don’t know anyone from lol!!

 

[MamaLema]

I thought the issue here in this thread was the fact the woman refused to wear a mask not the reason why she should be in the ER with her child or not?? Right?

Carry on.........

 

[kaytieeldr]

Yes, I googled and saw that there. We really only have emergency clinics. I would much prefer what sounds like Urgent care, because if you had a broken bone they are not equipped for casting, so if Needed you would still need to go to a hospital.

I do agree o the original point of this thread though, this woman should have just worn a mask.

We have Carewell Urgent Care around here, and they do advertise that they handle broken bones.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Meanwhile:
Ohhhhhhh?!!! Here comes Dr CW4D to the emergency front desk. Is that a rusty cleaver in his hand? And Ohh. It looks like something is hot in his other hand. It's a glowing spatula. Don't want to wear a mask? No problem. We'll take care of that finger right here and right now in a jiffy. What's that? You want to wait and you DO want a mask and want to get normal treatment? Well ok if you insist. You sure? This will only take about 30 seconds. Ok. Well if you're really sure, Get her a mask nurse. My job is done here. Who is next?

 

[kimblebee]

Maybe she did but that expectation was misplaced. We really don’t have much of a “live free or die” mentality in this culture and don’t feel personally threatened by conforming to rules. Especially ones that make total sense in the context.

Public health care is NOT free. It’s tax payer funded and we all pay our (rather large) share. Please tell me why we than should not avail ourselves of care when it’s needed? Public health care means we don’t have to DIY our own broken bones or go bankrupt when we get cancer.

Now that is laughable. Here one simply does not self-refer to a specialist. Primary care providers are the gate-keepers to all levels of specialized care. You don’t just call up an orthopedist, a gynaecologist, a paediatrician, a dermatologist or even a psychiatrist for that matter. It’s just how it works here.

Not to mention the fact that if you called your GP to make an appointment to be seen for a suspected broken bone, the first thing they’d do is tell you to go immediately to urgent care (if available) or the ER.

I wish I could like this comment 1000x. We don’t have ‘free’ health care, we just don’t see the money we pay towards it, unless we look at our pay stub. And, like you said, we pay for it, we’re going to use it.

Oh we have idiots up here too! Along with conspiracy nutcases.

In our province you should be going to urgent care for a broken finger not ER. Urgent Care is a 24/7 walk in clinic - ER is for life threatening events - heart attacks, shootings, stabbings, car accidents. Not broken fingers.

ERs get abused here as idiots cannot figure out to contact their family doctor or go to a walk-in/urgent care rather than go to the ER for something like strep throat or a broken finger. Idiots.

Eta

urgent care in my province

See Urgent Care for things like:

• illnesses or injuries that cannot wait for you to see your family doctor
• fevers, flu symptoms, rashes or infections
• dehydration
• cuts that won’t stop bleeding
• injured limb that might be broken or sprained
• any other urgent, but not life-threatening, conditions

Urgent care centres are able to provide services not available in many doctors’ offices, such as stitches and casts, but are not equivalent to emergency departments.
Urgent care centres help conserve emergency department resources for more serious, life-threatening conditions. Patients are seen based on their medical need, not order of arrival.

Yep, we aren’t immune to the idiocy. I wish we had more urgent care centres here. The closest one to me is a 20 minute drive away. The ER is a 5 minute drive. Guess where I’m going if I need stitches?

I don’t abuse it though, for colds, sprains, etc I’d call my dr.

 

[ronandannette]

I’m wondering if the verb will be Letita’d or Montana’d? I think I like the former best!

BTW I encountered someone like this recently in the hospital who could not accept the new rules around visiting and preferred to argue about it for a while. This is not uncommon in hospitals, unfortunately. Clearly the rules did not apply to them!

I'm not sure how common or uncommon it is here but what is extremely uncommon is the goofy anti-masker getting up on a social-media high horse and expecting support. So rare in fact that this story has made the national news on all 3 networks and has been mentioned every hour since noon on my local news/talk radio station. There is not a single iota of public sympathy for Letitica - she's been vilified from coast-to-coast-to-coast.

With our medical practice (the one we get our care from) they allow self-referral to specialists. If it is urgent we may need to go through primary care first, but in some cases a phone call about the issue will suffice so they can call and get you in a little earlier if possible. In urgent or emergent situations, the specialist is available right away.

Two situations I can recall. First, my young son had pain in his foot, with a little swelling, and I had trouble getting his shoe on. I took him to the pediatrician. They did xrays on site and determined he had a fracture. We walked down the hall to Orthopedics where an Orthopedist fit him in a cast.

Second was my mother was having pain in her knee. Took her to PCPs office where we saw an NP. Xrays revealed a fractured hip! Orthopedist consulted right then and there and next thing you know we are in an ambulance on our way to the hospital of our choice for a hip repair which occurred the next morning bright and early (on a Saturday).

I think the bigger picture is sometimes involved when it comes to medical care here in the US. It helps to live in a place where great medical care is readily available and to get your care at a place that has most services right onsite as well as user-friendly hours. Ours does this in part to keep ER costs low. The only time we have to go to the ER, really, is overnight. Once in a while we’ve been sent directly there when we called in to the nurse line and they directed us to do so, knowing they didn’t have the capability to handle it, such as when DS had appendicitis.

You astonished me at "they did x-rays". There's not a GP anywhere here I've ever heard of that has diagnostics right at their offices. Most of our diagnostics are done in centres unto themselves where you are referred for any kind of imaging, blood work, EKG's, and what have you. Hospitals and larger urgent care facilities have diagnostics on-site but a regular primary care provider? Never.

Which province? Urgent Care is starting to become more a “thing” in the Toronto area but I only know of one and it’s not 24/7

Maybe even all Canadians aren't aware that each province runs health care slightly differently. Implying nobody should go to an ER for broken bones assumes everybody has access to various levels of care. That's simply not the case. And things can also vary widely between urban and remote rural areas within the same province.

 

[kimblebee]

I'm not sure how common or uncommon it is here but what is extremely uncommon is the goofy anti-masker getting up on a social-media high horse and expecting support. So rare in fact that this story has made the national news on all 3 networks and has been mentioned every hour since noon on my local news/talk radio station. There is not a single iota of public sympathy for Letitica - she's been vilified from coast-to-coast-to-coast.

You astonished me at "they did x-rays". There's not a GP anywhere here I've ever heard of that has diagnostics right at their offices. Most of our diagnostics are done in centres unto themselves where you are referred for any kind of imaging, blood work, EKG's, and what have you. Hospitals and larger urgent care facilities have diagnostics on-site but a regular primary care provider? Never.

Maybe even all Canadians aren't aware that each province runs health care slightly differently. Implying nobody should go to an ER for broken bones assumes everybody has access to various levels of care. That's simply not the case. And things can also vary widely between urban and remote rural areas within the same province.

You’re on a roll tonight lol

 

[TLSnell1981]

Thousands of $$$?

Yep. ER visits are very expensive...approximately $2k-$3k for a simple fracture.

 

[ronandannette]

You’re on a roll tonight lol

Just getting warmed up if we keep discussing this topic. I never weigh in on health-care issues when they relate to the States because the system is just so different but Canadian public health care is right in my wheelhouse.

 

[JoanneAZ]

urgent care

Here urgent care will send you to the ER if they suspect a bone is broken. Most UC’s don’t have radiology set up.

 

[TLSnell1981]

Here urgent care will send you to the ER if they suspect a bone is broken. Most UC’s don’t have radiology set up.

Thankfully...not so everywhere.