NY Travel Advisory starting 11/4. NJ & CT have separate lists now

[TJA]

Does anyone know if a New Yorker travels to one of those states if we can come back to New York and have a Covid test and isolate until we get the results?

 

[easyas123]

Yeah, Poor Delaware keeps being added and taken off the list due to that 10% increase & decrease. The first week it was added to the list, the Delaware Gov. complained. She said that it's not fair to them as a 10% increase for them is a lot less people testing positive versus what it takes for, say, CA to have a 10% increase. The 3 Govs. agreed to work with her. DE was taken off the next week. But it's cases kept going up, so it was added back on last week. This week it's been taken off again.

Washington D.C. (also taken off this week,) will probably get added on and taken off a lot, too.

John Carney is the Governor I believe. Ruth Ann Minner was our last female Governor.

I think folks in and around Delaware have it difficult, although I'm sure there are provisions for those in this position, it's such a small state and positioned in such a way that many folks live in MD/NJ or PA and work there or live in DE and work in MD/NJ/PA.

 

[Imzadi]

Does anyone know if a New Yorker travels to one of those states if we can come back to New York and have a Covid test and isolate until we get the results?

For NY state, you have to quarantine for 14 days regardless of if a test comes back negative, as it may take 14 days for symptoms to appear.

The NY Gov, said that 12,000 people come into NY state every day, from an impacted state. There is already enough paperwork for the tracers to track down all those people coming in, making sure they are quarantining. He said there is no way he's going to add extra paperwork, manpower, and the work of scheduling follow-ups for people saying, "I took a test, the results are coming back in a couple days. . ." or "I was tested out of state, here are the results. . ." and then have the tracers verify the tests from out of state, (an impossible task,) or follow up on people again days later for test results. Nope. Nope. Not happening. People quarantine for 14 days upon coming into NY state from an impacted state. Period.

 

[Imzadi]

John Carney is the Governor I believe. Ruth Ann Minner was our last female Governor.

I think folks in and around Delaware have it difficult, although I'm sure there are provisions for those in this position, it's such a small state and positioned in such a way that many folks live in MD/NJ or PA and work there or live in DE and work in MD/NJ/PA.

Oops! I could have sworn I heard someone saying "she" when speaking about the DE Gov.

Yes, the Govs. said there are so many people who travel back & forth between DE & Washington. D.C. to the 3 states. And DE is one of the 7 states of the coalition of the Northeast Response to COVID-19. There is a provision for essential workers traveling in from impacted states. They don't have to quarantine. Maybe DE & Washington D.C. have special work provisions for the 3 states, like the definition for what is "essential work" is a lot broader. Like, if one works in one of the states, maybe it counts?

 

[dvcgirl67]

Maybe everyone should just stick to their own states for now. Just a thought. Or, we can just keep the death tally rolling. Sigh.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Maybe everyone should just stick to their own states for now. Just a thought. Or, we can just keep the death tally rolling. Sigh.

I think this thread is more for informational purposes (which I appreciate the OP keeping up on the information and posters providing advice for each other) not to really go back and forth on whether you should or shouldn't travel especially because that can be done in other Community board threads (and has been).

 

[TJA]

For NY state, you have to quarantine for 14 days regardless of if a test comes back negative, as it may take 14 days for symptoms to appear.

The NY Gov, said that 12,000 people come into NY state every day, from an impacted state. There is already enough paperwork for the tracers to track down all those people coming in, making sure they are quarantining. He said there is no way he's going to add extra paperwork and the work of people saying, "I took a test, the results are coming back in a couple days. . ." or "I was tested out of state, here are the results. . ." and then have the tracers have to do follow ups and verify the tests from out of state, (an impossible task,) or follow up on people again days later for test results. Nope. Nope. Not happening. People quarantine for 14 days upon coming into NY state from an impacted state. Period.

Ok, thank you!! I will be back in NY isolating for 13 days before needing to be at a meeting, so that is why I was hoping a negative test would help me get to that meeting on Day 13. I'll have DH check with our local officials as they will be at that meeting too.

 

[kymom99]

Maybe everyone should just stick to their own states for now. Just a thought. Or, we can just keep the death tally rolling. Sigh.

Agreed. But here if they ASK people to isolate they lose their freaking minds. People are just crazy sometimes.

 

[georgina]

Nice to see PA is not on the list, not that I plan to travel anywhere.

Same rules for my son (at RIT). He will be quarantining in PA with my parents.

Random off-topic comment - my son went there too. Majored in video game design and development.

 

[easyas123]

Maybe everyone should just stick to their own states for now. Just a thought. Or, we can just keep the death tally rolling. Sigh.

That would be great - except if we shut down (we work in MD & DE) we would be laying off 40 people and in the wake of shutting down, very important infrastructure projects that are assisting in immediate food production and wastewater treatment in both states would shut down, cascade effect would be all those folks out of work. All of our subs being used on those projects without work and us unable to pay them. hundreds of vendors not being paid next month, some of them making payroll week and month to month themselves, and heavily depending on us paying them on time. We'd be in default of our contracts. It would decimate our bidding & bonding ability for years to come. I can practically see the other state from my office.
We just - after years - became financially able to provide our employees with health insurance. Should we shut down and cease paying that as well?
Not a single person working here has had Covid, nor has any of their immediate family members. We've kept our people working - which you know, hasn't been easy - and in some very sensitive situations where we had to comply with some serious protocols.

No one is driving back and forth for the fun of it. Unless you call working in wastewater fun.

 

[soccerdad72]

Random off-topic comment - my son went there too. Majored in video game design and development.

That's a great program there! My son's in engineering (mechanical) - 2nd year

 

[Dan Murphy]

Back home now. Will be an interesting 14 days or so ahead for us now. Glad we are back in Illinois, and sanity.

Had a COVID test a few days ago, negative. All is still well here.

 

[dvcgirl67]

I think this thread is more for informational purposes (which I appreciate the OP keeping up on the information and posters providing advice for each other) not to really go back and forth on whether you should or shouldn't travel especially because that can be done in other Community board threads (and has been).

Noted. I'll refrain from posting.

 

[focusondisney]

For NY state, you have to quarantine for 14 days regardless of if a test comes back negative, as it may take 14 days for symptoms to appear.

The NY Gov, said that 12,000 people come into NY state every day, from an impacted state. There is already enough paperwork for the tracers to track down all those people coming in, making sure they are quarantining. He said there is no way he's going to add extra paperwork, manpower, and the work of scheduling follow-ups for people saying, "I took a test, the results are coming back in a couple days. . ." or "I was tested out of state, here are the results. . ." and then have the tracers verify the tests from out of state, (an impossible task,) or follow up on people again days later for test results. Nope. Nope. Not happening. People quarantine for 14 days upon coming into NY state from an impacted state. Period.

True, except: essential employees without symptoms are exempt from the quarantine. They need to get a covid test as soon as possible after entering the state, preferably within 24 hours. And they should quarantine when not at work. Of course, I doubt the exception is intended so people can vacation & then get out of quarantining.

 

[Imzadi]

True, except: essential employees without symptoms are exempt from the quarantine. They need to get a covid test as soon as possible after entering the state, preferably within 24 hours. And they should quarantine when not at work. Of course, I doubt the exception is intended so people can vacation & then get out of quarantining.

The Gov. wasn't talking about essential workers, just general visitors. But, thanks for the update on essential workers. I hadn't realized that the NYS Dept of Health added more requirements / exemptions for essential workers coming into NY. When they travel in, they are required to fill out the NYS Travelers Health Form. Page 2 asks if they are essential workers and what type. When the tracers call to find out where people are, they are to immediately text back a photo of where they are. So, people pretending to be essential workers will get caught, and probably be fined $2000 for lying.

A link to fill out the NY state Travelers Health Form is:
https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-travel-advisory#traveler-health-form

From the NYS Dept of Health site:

"Exemptions for Essential Workers​

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https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-travel-advisory#exemptions-for-essential-workers​

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"Exceptions to the travel advisory are permitted for essential workers and are limited based on the duration of time in designated states, as well as the intended duration of time in New York. The Commissioner of Health may additionally grant an exemption to the travel advisory based upon extraordinary circumstances, which do not warrant quarantine, but may be subject to the terms and conditions applied to essential workers or terms and conditions otherwise imposed by the Commissioner in the interest of public health.​

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Short Term – for essential workers traveling to New York State for a period of less than 12 hours.​

• This includes instances such as an essential worker passing through New York, delivering goods, awaiting flight layovers, and other short duration activities.
• Essential workers should stay in their vehicle and/or limit personal exposure by avoiding public spaces as much as possible.
• Essential workers should monitor temperature and signs of symptoms, wear a face covering when in public, maintain social distance, and clean and disinfect workspaces.
• Essential workers are required, to the extent possible, to avoid extended periods in public, contact with strangers, and large congregate settings.

Medium Term – for essential workers traveling to New York State for a period of less than 36 hours, requiring them to stay overnight. ​

• This includes instances such as an essential worker delivering multiple goods in New York, awaiting longer flight layover, and other medium duration activities.
• Essential workers should monitor temperature and signs of symptoms, wear a face covering when in public, maintain social distance, and clean and disinfect workspaces.
• Essential workers are required, to the extent possible, to avoid extended periods in public, contact with strangers, and large congregate settings.

Long Term – for essential workers traveling to New York State for a period of greater than 36 hours, requiring them to stay several days.​

• This includes instances such as an essential worker working on longer projects, fulfilling extended employment obligations, and other longer duration activities.
• Essential workers should seek diagnostic testing for COVID-19 as soon as possible upon arrival (within 24 hours) to ensure they are not positive.
• Essential workers should monitor temperature and signs of symptoms, wear a face covering when in public, maintain social distancing, clean and disinfect workspaces for a minimum of 14 days.
• Essential workers, to the extent possible, are required to avoid extended periods in public, contact with strangers, and large congregate settings for a period of, at least, 14 days.

Essential workers and their employers are expected to comply with previously issued DOH guidance regarding return to work after a suspected or confirmed case of COVID-19 or after the employee had close or proximate contact with a person with COVID-19. Additionally, this guidance may be superseded by more specific industry guidance for a particular industry (e.g., for a nursing home worker, a negative test PCR test will be required before return to work). Consult with your employer regarding whether there is industry-specific guidance that may apply to you.​

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Please consult the DOH website and resources for additional details and information regarding isolation procedures for when a person under quarantine is diagnosed with COVID-19 or develops symptoms.​

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For reference, an “essential worker” is (1) any individual employed by an entity included on the Empire State Development (ESD) Essential Business list; or (2) any individual who meets the COVID-19 testing criteria, pursuant to their status as either an individual who is employed as a health care worker, first responder, or in any position within a nursing home, long-term care facility, or other congregate care setting, or an individual who is employed as an essential employee who directly interacts with the public while working, pursuant to DOH Protocol for COVID-19 Testing, issued May 31, 2020, or (3) any other worker deemed such by the Commissioner of Health."​

A link to this info is in the second post of this thread for NYS, so you don't have to hunt for it later.

 

[tinkerdorabelle]

I'm confused if DE is on or off the list right now. My husband says on, I thought it was off?

 

[littlejimmy]

I'm confused if DE is on or off the list right now. My husband says on, I thought it was off?

Perhaps its time to call in the pros from dover...

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

Starting today we're going to do something new, we will have checkpoints at key entry points in the city," announces @NYCMayor, adding that there will be fines up to $10k for violating mandatory quarantine

 

[figmentdream]

Does anyone know if a New Yorker travels to one of those states if we can come back to New York and have a Covid test and isolate until we get the results?

I believe that Cuomo said that he was considering it, but the answer is currently NO.

 

[msjprincess]

I'm confused if DE is on or off the list right now. My husband says on, I thought it was off?

It's not listed on the NYS website
https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/go...ng-new-york-additional-state-will-be-required