ROFR Thread Jan to March 2022 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

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Redheadprincess said:
There is a 260 Mar Uy out there right now.
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I took a stab at that one at $120 because it’s partially stripped. Seller didn’t even counter so I think he/she is looking for something close to asking. I personally don’t think it’s worth it despite it being subsidized. I’m curious what it will ultimately sell for.
 
thank_the_phoenicians88 said:
They took my BCV at $160 last week. I'm convinced they are scooping up a ton of the 2042 with plans to some a similar direct incentive like they are doing now with BLT.
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My BCV is in ROFR at $165 fully loaded with 250 pts per year. I'm just thinking I should assume that's not gonna pass and start looking for the next one at $170+
 
Redheadprincess said:
Redheadprincess---$161-$34607-200-BCV-Aug-14/21, 200/22, 200/23- sent 1/20, taken 2/4

Ugh, 2nd one lost in the last weeks.
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I am sorry. I thought maybe the increase direct would indicate they wouldn’t take any more. Boy was I wrong! Maybe it will be up for a fire sale.
 
Jimmy Geppetto said:
I think we have a BCV promotion coming in our near future.
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Yup— this is exactly what I think is happening and I think it’s also in conjunction with opening sales for VGF2. They’re going to do a similar price structure with VGF2– high price, decent looking incentives so that the pricing is still over $200/point, but look, you can get $30 off per point in incentives so it’s “only” $210.. and the contract is longer!
I’m not sure it’s the right sales tactic (I think there is a market who’s going to buy VGF2 regardless of this, and a market who already knows it’s not what they want) but they’re testing the demand based on this sharp “incentive pricing.”
 
Ginamarie said:
Yup— this is exactly what I think is happening and I think it’s also in conjunction with opening sales for VGF2. They’re going to do a similar price structure with VGF2– high price, decent looking incentives so that the pricing is still over $200/point, but look, you can get $30 off per point in incentives so it’s “only” $210.. and the contract is longer!
I’m not sure it’s the right sales tactic (I think there is a market who’s going to buy VGF2 regardless of this, and a market who already knows it’s not what they want) but they’re testing the demand based on this sharp “incentive pricing.”
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Even if a promo like BLT at $48 off $265 BCV or $230 BWV is still a lot for 2042. DVC news is saying VGF2 could be available as soon as in two weeks.
 
HIRyeDVC said:
I took a stab at that one at $120 because it’s partially stripped. Seller didn’t even counter so I think he/she is looking for something close to asking. I personally don’t think it’s worth it despite it being subsidized. I’m curious what it will ultimately sell for.
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I offered the exact same price on this and got the same response from the seller.
 
i'm wondering if they are attracting new people to the market to make a case for similar locations but bright and shiny. So Bay Lake can bait and switch to VGF2 and BCV can bait and switch to RIV. Lots of convo about DLT. Great way to do presales and people to the table from a marketing standpoint. But it sucks cause it is dragging potential resalers. Good luck everyone. i have something sent but i don't want to talk about Bruno yet. i paid top dollar for once (not my typical MO) because i got super antsy and made an emotional decision to spend on what i want no matter the cost. i don't expect to be taken but you never know.
 
808blessing said:
i'm wondering if they are attracting new people to the market to make a case for similar locations but bright and shiny. So Bay Lake can bait and switch to VGF2 and BCV can bait and switch to RIV. Lots of convo about DLT. Great way to do presales and people to the table from a marketing standpoint. But it sucks cause it is dragging potential resalers. Good luck everyone. i have something sent but i don't want to talk about Bruno yet. i paid top dollar for once (not my typical MO) because i got super antsy and made an emotional decision to spend on what i want no matter the cost. i don't expect to be taken but you never know.
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It also may be a plan to get data on how to spark direct sales overall in terms of the pricing. Offering AUL and BWV, and now BLT, at more reasonable pricing, gives them that information that maybe, just maybe, that $200 point range (or less in AUL case) is more in line with what the market will bear right now.

I still believe we will see opening price for VGF around $210 with incentives for 300 points or more bringing it down to the $190 level!!
 
Jimmy Geppetto said:
I think we have a BCV promotion coming in our near future.
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If that is the case, and the sale is short term, it could help lower prices for resale when that happens. BLT was a hot property for ROFR in late 2021 through Nov. Now I've seen lots of passes since Jan. 1 under $165. Hopefully, by spring the same thing will happen with BCV and other 2042 resorts. The 2042 resorts technically have less than 20 years in them now. At some point their value will stop going up and then down. Disney may be making one last attempt to make some really good money off of them.
 
Jimmy Geppetto said:
Wait. What? You tried to buy Aulani?!?!?!
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LOL, I feel like Pete Werner buying Riviera after ranting about it for years. Really though. I’ve always professed nothing but love for the resort. My problem has always been the dues, which I believe will only get worse because of our political and economic situation. But in this case, I gave it a shot because it’s a good way to have some SAP with lower dues. I also have a Grand Villa stay in a couple of weeks for my daughter’s 7th birthday and I’m afraid it will ruin me forever. But it’s all moot. Consider it a sudden lapse in judgment. I’m back to my original plan of buying DLT.

BTW, where’d you find your 160 pointer?
 
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