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[APiratesLifeForMe2]

I understand where you are coming from and want to put myself out there a little more. So I’ll try to do that without crossing anyone else’s boundaries the best I can. I am still processing all of this and reflecting on my own experiences and yes, I have my own experiences and no, they are not to the level of the ones you already saw. I’m still working through all of that. Things did not go well for me after I had my medical issue. I appreciate everyone checking in on me and such and for the most part I haven’t really replied to most of your nice comments because in part I’m really not sure what to say. I’m traumatized and I feel like my life was falling apart and I have nobody to talk to and honestly not doing very great. Social media shows how awesome other people’s life is and stuff but that’s people showing their best days, or just forcing yourself to be okay because who am I to have a bad day? When I got this job I had just got out of active duty military - spent one year in a corporate office and hated my life - then landed a job doing theme park content I felt like I actually manifested. My dream at the time actually came true. I’m still working through stuff, as I’m sure many people are.

This is so horrible to hear. @Dustin or Sean may be able to offer that safe space for you to share as they went through their own trauma. Please know how much we care for you and your health and well being. Take whatever time you need to process but know that there is a whole community out here ready to support you if you need us.

 

[sun_seekin]

Dreams never had your money. All Dreams did was to pass your CC info on to Royal.

I also have a cruise booked thru Dreams and I'm very concerned about giving them my final payment. What happens to our reservation if Dreams goes under?

 

[dachsie]

I understand where you are coming from and want to put myself out there a little more. So I’ll try to do that without crossing anyone else’s boundaries the best I can. I am still processing all of this and reflecting on my own experiences and yes, I have my own experiences and no, they are not to the level of the ones you already saw. I’m still working through all of that. Things did not go well for me after I had my medical issue. I appreciate everyone checking in on me and such and for the most part I haven’t really replied to most of your nice comments because in part I’m really not sure what to say. I’m traumatized and I feel like my life was falling apart and I have nobody to talk to and honestly not doing very great. Social media shows how awesome other people’s life is and stuff but that’s people showing their best days, or just forcing yourself to be okay because who am I to have a bad day? When I got this job I had just got out of active duty military - spent one year in a corporate office and hated my life - then landed a job doing theme park content I felt like I actually manifested. My dream at the time actually came true. I’m still working through stuff, as I’m sure many people are.

I am so sorry you felt you have no one to talk to. I really enjoyed you on the podcasts and missed you. I hope things are getting better for you now.

 

[jozefd14]

Hi Everyone,

For months, I’ve debated “coming out of the woodwork,” so to speak, and posting here. It’s been eight years since I last wrote for wdwinfo and the Unplugged blog and moderated this exact board. It’s been 10 since Julie and I recorded our shopping segment at the same studio (more footage with Dustin was recorded at that time but never made it to air). It’s been 12 since I attended someone’s wedding at his home. It’s been 14 since I was made into a flattie (do people still do those) and brought on what I believe was the first ever podcast cruise. I could go on and on. Hundreds of us battled it out on Toy Story Mania into the wee hours of the night; we volunteered at Give Kids the World, and for many years, raised thousands to help sustain its efforts; there were more cruises, trips to Disneyland, Adventures by Disney, and countless hours spent in the Florida parks. Friendships were formed, some for a lifetime, others only on the surface level.

One thing always held true during those years: as much as he may have wanted it to be, it was never all about him. He didn’t create that magic. The people did. They were the ones who were truly invested and, based on the replies I’ve read here, remain to be this day. Sure, many have come and gone, but the sentiment is still there even as fractured as it may be at the moment.

I too have a story. There’s not a person that doesn’t whether they were on-air talent, a writer, editor, producer, etc. With that being said, I think we need to give everyone some grace right now. They didn’t create the monster. Making demands or offering critiques is unwarranted. Let them have space to process and move forward in whatever capacity that is to come. This is a truly gut-wrenching situation. I have full faith that things are happening behind the scenes; give them a breather so things can be squared away. Adding onto an already toxic situation will not do anyone good. You have absolutely every right to be hurt and angry, but don’t place those feelings on the wrong people.

Very well said. I just cannot with all these people complaining/demanding answers right at this very moment/second/day/hour.

Heck I feel the same way too but eventually bring myself to reality and think, what we are requesting etc, is not a typical 2 days free shipping due to prime. All of these revelations take time to process and if they’re not willing to patiently wait, there is a thing called “leaving”.

Like no one is out here being put against their will to wait. They know people would cancel their Patreon page and unsubscribe to the YouTube channels. I’m pretty sure everyone at the Dis knows this and know they have no control over that.

All I’m saying, at the end of the day, everyone and everything, in due course, will get addressed fully (I hope) and not get swept under the rug like in the past years whenever one of the Dis team abruptly leaves and is no longer present and no longer mentioned ever again. That IMO, is the appropriate time to get mad IF AND ONLY IF, that becomes the fruition. But at this present time, we just wait.

 

[Dallas_Lady]

Yes, you are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. People are free to come to their own conclusions about a person based on the information they have. For some, I think the fact there have been multiple allegations from different people (not just a one-time thing) and patterns of behavior lead them to believe there is truth to what is being said.

Anyone's online 'persona' can be very different from who they are 'in real life.' So saying you love someone based on what you see on podcasts, etc. ,may not be who they really are. And many people accused of the same types of things that are being said now are usually very good at charming people, 'luring' them in, etc.

I'm not necessarily advocating for one 'side' or the other, merely pointing out why some may be reacting they way they are.

Exactly. For me, I’ve been listening since the beginning and the pattern of come and go employees over the years made me raise an eyebrow that something was “off” even before these specific allegations came out.

 

[dachsie]

Mods - thank you for restoring the other thread. Kudos for doing the right thing.

 

[dina444444]

On your cc statement, who was listed as the vendor? RC or DU?

not a current client, was one in the past, all payments were processed by the travel vendor, ie. Disney, universal, rccl. only time payments were processed through dreams's merchant account was for past dis events that I attended

 

[wiihoo888]

I understand where you are coming from and want to put myself out there a little more. So I’ll try to do that without crossing anyone else’s boundaries the best I can. I am still processing all of this and reflecting on my own experiences and yes, I have my own experiences and no, they are not to the level of the ones you already saw. I’m still working through all of that. Things did not go well for me after I had my medical issue. I appreciate everyone checking in on me and such and for the most part I haven’t really replied to most of your nice comments because in part I’m really not sure what to say. I’m traumatized and I feel like my life was falling apart and I have nobody to talk to and honestly not doing very great. Social media shows how awesome other people’s life is and stuff but that’s people showing their best days, or just forcing yourself to be okay because who am I to have a bad day? When I got this job I had just got out of active duty military - spent one year in a corporate office and hated my life - then landed a job doing theme park content I felt like I actually manifested. My dream at the time actually came true. I’m still working through stuff, as I’m sure many people are.

Corey, when you are ready, we are here. Social media does exactly what you say…makes everyone shine in their best moment, and gives a false illusion that others are always living the dream. In truth, people generally post their happiness because that is what they want to share and remember. However, any pain is left off-camera, and can’t be considered non-existent simply because it doesn’t show up on photos. We all make a lot of assumptions on everyone’s life based on what we get to see. I’m sorry life has been so down for you and send you love and strength

 

[DianeW]

It appears that my original post on Patreon is being criticized by plenty of people including @Tonyz particularly, so let me clarify. Dustin and Pete brought me into this company as a freelancer in late 2012 before going part-time in 2013 and then full-time. When I say I found out about the allegations (Dustin's) the same way as others, it's because it's the absolute truth as Dustin has clearly stated. And I was truly shocked. The DIS was an abnormal place to work from day one and something like Pete and Dustin dating was presented to me as consensual and normal. There was plenty of fighting along the way that seemed like red flags to me, but I'm never going to be one to judge anyone's relationship. When Dustin chose to leave, I supported him doing what was best for him.

You can choose whether or not to believe me when I say I was not aware of what happened with Dustin before or during my time working with The DIS even with Dustin saying flat out we didn't know. You can choose to believe me or not when I tell you that John told me he knows Dreams needs a bigger presence on the show and that means he and Kevin returning but they need a new studio because the reality is it's impossible for Kevin to navigate into a narrow door and down a narrow hallway into an extra bedroom that was our studio.

Right now, I'm just trying to do my job to the best of my ability and I'm waiting to hear more the same way everyone else is.

Craig, I believe you. Every word.

You all can emerge from this garbage and turn the DIS into something amazing. This team is so talented, and without all the soul crushing, narcissistic, vileness that you worked with previously...you all will reach new heights in creativity, originality, and innovation. I can't wait to see what you do, and I support you guys every step of the way!!

 

[DonMacGregor]

I understand where you are coming from and want to put myself out there a little more. So I’ll try to do that without crossing anyone else’s boundaries the best I can. I am still processing all of this and reflecting on my own experiences and yes, I have my own experiences and no, they are not to the level of the ones you already saw. I’m still working through all of that. Things did not go well for me after I had my medical issue. I appreciate everyone checking in on me and such and for the most part I haven’t really replied to most of your nice comments because in part I’m really not sure what to say. I’m traumatized and I feel like my life was falling apart and I have nobody to talk to and honestly not doing very great. Social media shows how awesome other people’s life is and stuff but that’s people showing their best days, or just forcing yourself to be okay because who am I to have a bad day? When I got this job I had just got out of active duty military - spent one year in a corporate office and hated my life - then landed a job doing theme park content I felt like I actually manifested. My dream at the time actually came true. I’m still working through stuff, as I’m sure many people are.

This makes total sense and is absolutely understandable and relatable. The whole dislike of cheese thing on dining reviews is a completely different story though. It may be unforgivable and you may have to live with it forever (just kidding).

Do what you need to do, how you need to do it, and in the timeframe that YOU are comfortable in.

 

[Miffy]

Could someone please point me in the direction of information about what you are all talking about? I tried Googling what seems to be the main person's name, the name of the company, etc., and I come up with nothing but links to YT videos and threads here on the DIS that only hint at what's going on.

As a longtime DISer, I'm quite concerned that this board could go under.

If someone could send me a DM briefly describing the current difficulties, I'd really appreciate it. Thank you.

ETA: Many thanks to everyone who responded.

 

[SCDVC2000]

What a decadent, soft society we’ve become, to be so personally invested in an entertainment company and the peoples lives whose work is associated it. We are screwed

 

[Teleclashter]

The last thing I'll say, for now... the statement I made and the red flags mentioned are in regard to the story Dustin shared and that relationship. I have not yet commented about the working environment at The DIS and I don't plan on it at this time. I am an employee of Dreams Unlimited Travel and my focus right now is helping out however I can for us to have a positive future and continue making entertaining and helpful content.

What I will say is I am extremely appreciative of the opportunities and support I've been given within this company, the camaraderie I've shared with past and current team members, and the friendships that have developed with the team as well as the listeners and viewers. Every time a team member leaves there is a ton of speculation whether it is announced or it happens quietly. I know that it's confusing and frustrating for many of you in those moments and it paints a picture in a time like this.

I have lost touch with a few of the former team members, but there's not a single one of them that I wouldn't lend a hand or ear to if they needed it. I have always tried my best to support them. They have and continue to do the same for me. I do not have a story like Dustin's, nor do I believe anyone else on our team does, but everyone who has ever worked in the company does share a lot of commonalities. Whether people choose to leave or the choice is made for them, we were all very aware of the same things and the difficulties of working in such an abnormal environment.

I am also happy to share more about the history of the studio and the move if anyone would like to know more but would prefer to keep it separate from this post.

 

[WishingTree]

This entire subject is greater than one man or company it’s a reflection on a greater problem with society where most victims of sexual abuse never come forward. I thank Sean and Dustin for coming forward in a public forum to shine light on their experiences. I would also like to thank Craig, Corey and Ryno for acknowledging the issue, so far it seems only the three of you as employees and Pete’s employees at that had the courage to make a statement. It sickens me that anyone would attack any of you for being complicit in the actions of another person. That being said I would never, ever remain silent while my own employees bear the brunt of any public scrutiny. I understand we’re technically talking about two companies but in practicality theyre not. I’m so sorry the three of you were left dangling without public support or acknowledgment while trying to tell your feelings and truths.

 

[plutolovr]

But when I book a cruise on Royal Caribbean I make payments to DU (through the client payment portal) and DU then send me a confirmation. I guess I’m trying to understand if DU hold that money or send it right away to Royal Caribbean. My trip is in a couple weeks so I’m all good but if I were to book another trip it would be nice to have clarification on whether my payments are held or actually go immediately to the cruise line.

Look at your credit card statement. That will tell you who is charging your card. It's not Dreams, it's the cruise line.

 

[Brian Noble]

I've heard this somewhere before.

I think it is called "the human condition."

 

[plutolovr]

I also have a cruise booked thru Dreams and I'm very concerned about giving them my final payment. What happens to our reservation if Dreams goes under?

They're not going under.

 

[Hunterr]

Was this on ryno’s YT? I can’t find a post from last night on his channel?

Deleted? Or am I looking in the wrong place?

Looking in the wrong place. When YouTube channels go live, they are archived under the LIVE tab, not VIDEOS tab (unless they make it private, but he left it up).

https://www.youtube.com/live/C6gcGtHYh58?feature=share

Edit: he must have JUST made it unlisted. But there it is.
At the end, he said he’s gonna make another video or something that’s more coherent than this one.

 

[wiihoo888]

The last thing I'll say, for now... the statement I made and the red flags mentioned are in regard to the story Dustin shared and that relationship. I have not yet commented about the working environment at The DIS and I don't plan on it at this time. I am an employee of Dreams Unlimited Travel and my focus right now is helping out however I can for us to have a positive future and continue making entertaining and helpful content.

What I will say is I am extremely appreciative of the opportunities and support I've been given within this company, the camaraderie I've shared with past and current team members, and the friendships that have developed with the team as well as the listeners and viewers. Every time a team member leaves there is a ton of speculation whether it is announced or it happens quietly. I know that it's confusing and frustrating for many of you in those moments and it paints a picture in a time like this.

I have lost touch with a few of the former team members, but there's not a single one of them that I wouldn't lend a hand or ear to if they needed it. I have always tried my best to support them. They have and continue to do the same for me. I do not have a story like Dustin's, nor do I believe anyone else on our team does, but everyone who has ever worked in the company does share a lot of commonalities. Whether people choose to leave or the choice is made for them, we were all very aware of the same things and the difficulties of working in such an abnormal environment.

I am also happy to share more about the history of the studio and the move if anyone would like to know more but would prefer to keep it separate from this post.

Bring it…if you are so inclined and have the time. It will be a welcome diversion from this

 

[hiroMYhero]

Ok, I'm totally out of the loop.
Would someone privately message me as to what's going on. Where did you read this ? or hear on a podcast(I don't describe to a podcast), where?.

Is this all about the New Studio??
I'm only picking up pieces of things that are not making sense. TIA

Sent you a message containing the Cliffs Notes recap of 5000 posts on a mentioned site. It really is the most succinct recap up until AmEx info became known.