The broker fees can cut into that further though unless you rent privately. Also I could’ve sworn DVC rental store at most gives you like 18 per point and cops the rest? Please correct me if I’m wrong about this. I don’t think they’re worthless yet, but at this point I do think the risk is far greater than the upside of owning at VB/HHI.
I should have clarified that I meant some value *for people who intend to actually blow them all on personal use for 1 bedrooms at BWV and BCV* —broker fees will absolutely eat into the margin.
Yes, i'm thinking that is the best strategy when getting to end of contract.
Yikes that is scary to think about.
The problem with holding on to those VB/HH contracts is that if you decide you are done with DVC you may not be able to unload them for any price especially if the MFs are exceeding the cash prices (which at the current rate will be in a few short years). These contracts still have ~ 18 years left in them which is enough time for us to go into a recession. Disney cash prices for rooms at that time will be way under the costs of the MFs if that happens.I should have clarified that I meant some value *for people who intend to actually blow them all on personal use for 1 bedrooms at BWV and BCV* —broker fees will absolutely eat into the margin.
And even still, I bought BCV recently in part because I think it may become very difficult to book even the less desirable rooms around crescent lake at 7m as we get closer to expiration. So not sure how much value VB/HHI would have even as SAP 10 years from now.
If people bought VB or HH specifically to stay at those resorts and not ever have any intention of going to WDW are pretty much screwed once the MFs are exceeding the cash prices. Not a good value when owning points costs more than cash to stay at your resort.
If there's any solice for VB/HHI owners, it may be the availability factor.
). In 4 stays, (2 ea) there has never been cash availability at either resort.
Renting your points becomes the only viable option.?If there's any solice for VB/HHI owners, it may be the availability factor.
I've been to both resorts a couple of times. I keep a spreadsheet of what I could have booked a cash stay (and rental, and rack
To be fair, I'm not hounding the site daily looking for cash availability... I probably check half a dozen times each stay... but never found any cash rooms available.
Good Luck! Have fun!
Vero has cash rooms sometimes; I see availability in January right now.I've been to both resorts a couple of times. I keep a spreadsheet of what I could have booked a cash stay (and rental, and rack
Also a first time BCV owner this year—so excited to be able to use our points there next year and every year or two until the association expires! I dreamed of staying at BCV (from the nearby Dolphin) since my first trip to WDW, have had many wonderful trips there with my kids since, and am looking forward to saving the full price of purchase (v cash bookings) in the next several years.
I was able to book a 2 bedroom June 21-23, 2024 just this past week.
There area lot of ideas that people have about what DVD will do. Personally, I sold my BWV a few years back to buy RIV for two reasons...I love RIV more and so that we had a contract beyond the 2042 date, due to my adult kids wanting to still go.
I’m leaning towards refurbish and sell again but nobody really knows. I am curious about the infrastructure of BWV especially which seems to have had plumbing issues but OTOH Contemporary and Poly have hit the 50 year mark and are still going. Definitely won’t be an extension with how those point charts are currently and the disaster the OKW extension was. If you don’t care about passing down to your kids or your kids aren’t into Disney a 2042 resort would be a great option. If you want to keep the option though and staying at BCV/BWV isn’t a must I’d consider maybe a better value resort like CCV, Poly or BLT.
Age was a big factor for us with DVC. We have 4 home resorts with staggered end dates. We don’t have kids to leave our contracts to so we want them to fall off as we age. Not going to lie though, I will be very sad when 2042 comes around and we no longer own BRV!
Yes! This! The spreadsheet on 18 years of dues finally made me pull the trigger at 54. Bought, booked for next August, and ready to ride it to the end of we can!
Personally I imagine they’ll bulldoze Boardwalk as it’s not a well designed property. Put something new there that actually has restaurants in the building.
I think it will be tempting to completely rebuild a big chunk of BCV as well-- I don't see any reason they couldn't build it up twice as high (2x the number of rooms!) and imagine how many points they could demand with EPCOT view rooms... I think the rooms above 4th or 5th floor would be able to see much of the World Showcase? I suppose they could just build a giant tower over a parking structure on the existing parking lot?
I agree Vero Beach and Hilton Head get sold off. They would have one hell of a time trying to resell those resorts with where the yearly MFs would be at.
