College Football 2023-Year of The Dawgs?

[sam_gordon]

I would say exactly that. Although, I think FSU's situation was more sticking it to the NCAA & ESPN than abandoning their teammates. That doesn't excuse the number of opt-outs. I think that was a juvenile reaction on their part. Kudos to Georgia for showing up & caring about winning, regardless of the situation.

How does it "stick it" to the NCAA/ESPN? They still got their money from their sponsors.

What I wouldn't say is the game proves FSU didn't deserve to be in the playoffs. That's nothing more than a convenient attempt at justifying Alabama being chosen instead of them, simply because the committee wasn't willing to exclude the SEC.

I agree the game doesn't say anything about whether FSU should have been in the playoff or not. BUT, I'm guessing these players, in their decades of playing sports, have run into games and situations that "weren't fair" (at least in their minds). I'm guessing when that happened when they were younger, their parents and/or coaches told them to suck it up and go out and do their best. Instead these two dozen players took their ball and went home.

As I said, I lose respect for any player on any team that elects to not participate because the "game doesn't matter".

 

[GreatLakes]

FSU could have shown the world they deserved to be in the hunt for the championship, they didn't. The fact some players decided to opt out instead doesn't change the fact that FSU crapped the bed and proved the selection committee right. It wasn't even close.

 

[tarheelmjfan]

How does it "stick it" to the NCAA/ESPN? They still got their money from their sponsors.

I agree the game doesn't say anything about whether FSU should have been in the playoff or not. BUT, I'm guessing these players, in their decades of playing sports, have run into games and situations that "weren't fair" (at least in their minds). I'm guessing when that happened when they were younger, their parents and/or coaches told them to suck it up and go out and do their best. Instead these two dozen players took their ball and went home.

As I said, I lose respect for any player on any team that elects to not participate because the "game doesn't matter".

I agree with this.

ESPN has stated they're upset about the FSU opt-outs. It had a major impact on ticket sales & general interest in the game. That isn't what they expected for a major bowl. It harmed the bottom line.

 

[tarheelmjfan]

FSU could have shown the world they deserved to be in the hunt for the championship, they didn't. The fact some players decided to opt out instead doesn't change the fact that FSU crapped the bed and proved the selection committee right. It wasn't even close.

I agree with the first sentence, but not the second. The team on the field tonight wasn't the same team that would have been playing in the playoffs. We will never know, if the selection committee was right.

 

[GAN]

 

[GAN]

"Seminoles, who were without more than two dozen players because of opt-outs and transfers, including five starters in their defensive front seven, their top two running backs and top three receivers." And they were starting QB #3.

More than 25 not playing by kickoff...congrats to Georgia for beating the JV FSU team...I'm sure the ratings will reflect what a good decision that whole bowl game was...

Yeah …the game would have been much closer had that not happened. Maybe only 40-3…

 

[TwoMisfits]

I agree with this.

ESPN has stated they're upset about the FSU opt-outs. It had a major impact on ticket sales & general interest in the game. That isn't what they expected for a major bowl. It harmed the bottom line.

That was obviously FSU's goal, so they accomplished what they wanted...since they got rejected over money issues originally from the top 4 or as it was termed, "interest"...

 

[MGMmjl]

That was obviously FSU's goal, so they accomplished what they wanted...since they got rejected over money issues originally from the top 4 or as it was termed, "interest"...

Why didn't FSU try to beat Georgia 63-3? Wouldn't that have made more of a statement? Of course even at full strength, Georgia would have still killed them. Seems to me like all FSU did was prove the College Football Playoff may have gotten it right not putting them in there.

 

[hopemax]

If TPTB didn’t want the consequences of leaving an undefeated Power 5 conference out of the CFP, they should have made different decisions. Blaming those consequences on student athletes instead of the people in power rubs me the wrong way. I’m pretty sure the FSU players can, will and are falling in line behind the idea that, “you gotta take care of you.”

After this year, I’ve had enough with the we’re gonna screw the players over, in numerous ways, but still demand they show up for one more performance or they just prove they aren’t worthy, and it’s a knock on their character. No more jumping through someone else’s hoops for a false chance to salvage some approval from the people who already couldn’t say no to the $$$ of the SEC.

My team is the only set of Dawgs still alive in the CFP, so definitely no loyalty to FSU or ACC. But you can’t expect people to show up as if nothing happened when they checked all the boxes only to be told it didn’t matter. That’s a life lesson too.

 

[GAN]

Why didn't FSU try to beat Georgia 63-3? Wouldn't that have made more of a statement? Of course even at full strength, Georgia would have still killed them. Seems to me like all FSU did was prove the College Football Playoff may have gotten it right not putting them in there.

Because not showing up protected them from actual embarrassment and played into their sob story…. Alabama failed to make the CFP last year, yet their players showed up for their bowl game -including the eventual #1 draft pick

 

[tarheelmjfan]

Because not showing up protected them from actual embarrassment and played into their sob story…. Alabama failed to make the CFP last year, yet their players showed up for their bowl game -including the eventual #1 draft pick

Not necessarily. We had several opt-outs for the Mayo Bowl. Unfortunately, opting out has become the thing to do in the ACC. I think Florida State's reaction was a combination of ACC culture & trying to make a statement.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

FSU could have shown the world they deserved to be in the hunt for the championship, they didn't. The fact some players decided to opt out instead doesn't change the fact that FSU crapped the bed and proved the selection committee right. It wasn't even close.

No they couldn't have. Remember the year Utah had Alabama whipped in the Sugar Bowl before Bama fan could yell at the wife to get him another beer? All we heard before that game was Alabama was going to show Utah they didn't belong anywhere near the conversation after the whipping Alabama was going to put on em. Yet all we heard after the game was, Oh that wasn't the real Bama team. They were totally disappointed at not making the title game. This was a meaningless game with nothing to play for. They weren't the SEC's best team. They couldn't possibly stand up to Florida..... It didn't prove anything. Blah blah blah......Had Florida St. played everyone and won, we'd have heard the same excuses. So no. FSU was darned if they did and darned if they didn't. Nor does FSU's 2nd and 3rd string getting beat prove the committee right. Not even close.

Not necessarily. We had several opt-outs for the Mayo Bowl. Unfortunately, opting out has become the thing to do in the ACC. I think Florida State's reaction was a combination of ACC culture & trying to make a statement.

I don't really think they were making a statement. Kids have been opting out all over the place. And more power to them I say. Why should kids have to play a meaningless cash grab if they don't want to? It's not like they are going to see any of that money. It's not like their school is going to back them if they get hurt. Heck. Oregon St.'s coach left for Michigan St. The Schools can dump these kids in a heart beat. The Schools can go to the portal and get a rent a player and replace the kids any time they want to. Word is aTm's great class never got the NIL they were promised. Nobody is loyal to the kids. So why should the kids be locked into any sort of loyalty in return? They gave their all when it counted. They don't owe anything more. And even the bowls themselves are mailing it in. Just look at the Orange Bowl. Used to have a great night parade. No more. Used to have a great half time show. No more. I think they must have spent $26 on their half time show today. Maybe they could spring $5 more and get a mic that works next year. It was almost bad enough to cause people to pine for Ashlee Simpson.

Almost.......

 

[sam_gordon]

Why should kids have to play a meaningless cash grab if they don't want to? It's not like they are going to see any of that money.

BS. The majority of the players (if not all of them) on the sideline ARE getting money. They get scholarships that pay for their tuition, books, housing, and meals. They get free clothing. They get free tutoring.

It's not like their school is going to back them if they get hurt. Heck. Oregon St.'s coach left for Michigan St. The Schools can dump these kids in a heart beat. The Schools can go to the portal and get a rent a player and replace the kids any time they want to.

Actually, yes, the school will back them if they get hurt. You have an example of a time when an athlete got hurt participating in their sport and the school DIDN'T cover the medical costs?

I'll agree schools will dump kids off the team when necessary. Or do you think they shouldn't be able to cut players no matter what?

There are only two transfer portal windows for football... 30 days after Selection Sunday and April 15-30. Personally, I think the transfer portal should open on Jan. 2, but it's still far from schools being able to "replace the kids any time they want to". Although I'm sure if someone already at the school wants to join the team in October, they'd be allowed (by rules). But I'm pretty sure that's not what you're trying to say.

Now, why should the kids HAVE to play a "meaningless cash grab" if they don't want to? They shouldn't. But I've always felt that if you commit to something, you stick with it. We always told our kids we'll sign them up for anything they want to do, but they need to finish the commitment (generally a season in sports). I think it's a bad look for a player to opt out of a bowl game. I guess it's ok in your mind that a player quits after a teams, what, third loss of the season? Games after that mean nothing, I mean they're not going to be in the running for a natty, so what's the point?

 

[declansdad]

Hey, at least FSU kept the score close. They've written their season history.

It ended 63-3 in favor of Georgia.

My thanks goes out to FSU proving the CFP Committee right.

Bye.

Bama Ed

FSU playing with their scout squad didn't prove anything with regard to the committee's decision.

 

[MGMmjl]

FSU playing with their scout squad didn't prove anything with regard to the committee's decision.

I have to admit it's funny reading all the excuses about FSU. Hope they enjoyed their 60 point loss. Even when Georgia started playing their 2nd and 3rd stringers, FSU still couldn't score. But as long as they stuck it to the SEC and ESPN!

 

[WEDWDW]

I think it is obvious that Georgia still beats FSU handily if all of FSU's opt outs had played,but now FSU can forever say that the reason they lost was because of the opt outs.

Kind of a brilliant move by the FSU opt outs when you think about it.

 

[declansdad]

I have to admit it's funny reading all the excuses about FSU. Hope they enjoyed their 60 point loss. Even when Georgia started playing their 2nd and 3rd stringers, FSU still couldn't score. But as long as they stuck it to the SEC and ESPN!

I have never said they wouldn't have lost but this game proved nothing. Even Georgia said they didn't play the same FSU team that played all year.

 

[Disneefun]

I've never been a fan of all the bowl opt outs, but now that we've essentially turned CFB into proball with the NIL and transfers, etc., I think you should have to play unless your leg has fallen off or something. You signed a contract with that school to represent them, that school is (in many cases) "paying you" with a scholarship and NIL money, and you should have to play. Just like an NFL player has to play because it's in the contract, CFB should have to play the bowl games. You signed up for it, the school is holding up their end, you play.

 

[mgarbowski]

The Selection Committee told FSU that game results don't matter and FSU acted accordingly. That game yesterday is nobody's fault but the Selection Committee. If I said otherwise I'd be kicking people when they're down.

 

[sam_gordon]

The Selection Committee told FSU that game results don't matter and FSU acted accordingly. That game yesterday is nobody's fault but the Selection Committee. If I said otherwise I'd be kicking people when they're down.

No they didn't. The Committee told FSU that TYPES of games matter. If you think they said "results don't matter", then you feel Liberty should be in the CFP also, right? They're the other undefeated team. If you agree Liberty's record doesn't get them in, then you have to agree WHO you play matters. Strength of Schedule matters. Compare FSU, Bama, and Texas SoS.

"A Undefeated Power 5 team has never been left out!" is the other argument. Has the SEC champion ever been left out?
Does it suck for FSU? Yes. Did they do everything they could to get in? Aside from whoever organized the schedule, yes. But IMO, you use that for motivation, NOT "then I'm not going to play".