College Football 2023-Year of The Dawgs?

[sam_gordon]

It's not a good analogy to compare college football with the NFL. The NFL has a lot more common opponents than college football does, so a team's record at the end of the year can be compared with the other 31 teams (15 if you're just comparing by conference) much better than in college, where the top 8-10 teams may have 1 or 2 common opponents, if any.

And the NFL, NBA, MLB, MLS, etc all have systems in place to decide who qualifies for playoffs, and how they qualify (first round bye, home field advantage, "play in games", etc). Because they're all under one umbrella.

Cut 13 teams from D1 football. That leaves 120 teams. Have 12 conferences with 10 teams each. Every team plays every other team in the conference (9 games) plus four out of conference (allows for rivalry games & "warm up" games). 12 conference winners go to the playoffs. Then you either add four wildcards (decide how to do that), or four first round byes (decide how to do that).

 

[GAN]

Let's try leaving out an NFL team because their QB got injured and not their record and then let's see how the "Someone is getting left out, so we have to treat all the justifications as equal," reasoning plays. In any other sport, or at any other level that and Alabama's justification will be rightfully rejected as being insufficient to counter teams actual records and head-to-head matchups.

The primary reason FSU was left out is SOS -nothing else. Was the QB situation a factor -sure, but not the most important detail. The committee was aware they had won their last two games that way. The ACC was weak this year and that was what the decision was based on -and it makes sense.

 

[hopemax]

Based on "actual records", Liberty should have been in the CFP. Are you actually arguing for that? There were four undefeated teams, right? Four slots in the playoffs. Perfect! No? Liberty's not a good enough team to be in the playoffs? Why not? They were undefeated and "actual records" is what should be followed, not SoS.

There has been a long understanding that mid-major / Group of 5 teams will be treated different by the committee than Power 5. But even that understanding has been moving toward including them as the years have gone on. That is how they got their NY6 bowl slot, that's part of why they are moving to an expanded playoff, because yes, the trajectory is moving toward giving them a chance. Had we been talking about a team like an undefeated Boise St. team or UCF before they changed conferences, then there would have been more advocation for including the undefeated Group of 5 team. SMU had a better SoS than Liberty. If they had beaten TCU and Oklahoma (SMU's two losses) why shouldn't they have been given a shot? When it comes to the Power 5, the understanding has been they value records and Conference Champions. Until this year.

 

[sam_gordon]

There has been a long understanding that mid-major / Group of 5 teams will be treated different by the committee than Power 5.

And why is that? Is it because not all conferences are created equal?

When it comes to the Power 5, the understanding has been they value records and Conference Champions. Until this year.

I would say Conference Champions WERE valued. That's why Alabama, as the SEC Champion, got in. Texas beat Alabama. At the time Texas was 3, Bama 5. Texas SHOULD have won that game. Texas' loss however, was to 12 Oklahoma. Longhorns were still 3. Texas should NOT have lost that game.

FSU played two ranked teams... LSU (4 vs 13) and Louisville (4 vs 16). Alabama played 5.

Now, we can go around and around, but as long as the choice is subjective, you're going to find people who disagree with it. I'm not sure there is any college playoff (in any sport at any level) that doesn't use subjectiveness(?) to decide who "makes it in" or what the seeds are. It would take a TOTAL realignment to get away from that. Which I would not be against.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

I, for one, am really excited for a two B1G NC. One in the B1G now, one joining next year.

Teams joining a new conference next year.

Future Big10 members 4-0 in Bowls.
Future SEC members 0-2 in bowls.
Future Big12 members 1-1 in bowls
Future Pac2/MWC members 0-1 in bowls.
Future ACC members 0-2 in bowls.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

I don't even want to think about that word, but yes.

Ryan Grubb has destroyed all my nerves. I've got nothing left. But really, DH and I were wondering how awful Dillon Johnson would feel for the rest of his life if his injury kept the Huskies out of the NC because it left too much time on the clock. Glad for him he won't have to live with that, but really nervous about who will be in at Running Back next week.

He'd feel pretty darn bad. It wouldn't have been his fault though.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

So a pair of undefeated teams beat a pair of one loss teams. It's almost as if Power Five undefeated teams are the best. It's a shame there weren't more available.
Oh.
There was. Yeah but their quarterback was hurt. Makes sense now. It would have been embarrassing. I mean, no way their backup manages [checks notes], 116 yards passing and 21 yards rushing. Great job, Committee.
Lol. Well, maybe those QB stats just mean more when an SEC player puts them up.
And to be clear, the point is not that Alabama made it competitive (mostly because Michigan special teams had their worst game in several years) but that FSU deserved its shot.
To be fair, Milroe did fairly well given how bad his O-line is, which is atrocious. How does a conference end up with a champion with line play that poor?
Poor little SEC.

LOL yeah, It's so funny to see the SEC honks with egg all over their faces.

Michigan players Troll Alabama

The original appears here.

I wonder what it says about me when I thought, “Ha! Double losers!”?

I was thinking something similar. When I first saw the picture I thought why would you do that? Michigan beat you so even if they lost to Alabama, you really can't say jack because..... They still beat you. And well, now that Alabama lost, well that was doubly bad for them. Of course I wonder whether those where Michigan fans acting like Ohio St. fans. They were sure smiling like the cat that swallowed the canary.

 

[GAN]

LOL yeah, It's so funny to see the SEC honks with egg all over their faces.

Michigan players Troll Alabama

The original appears here.

I was thinking something similar. When I first saw the picture I thought why would you do that? Michigan beat you so even if they lost to Alabama, you really can't say jack because..... They still beat you. And well, now that Alabama lost, well that was doubly bad for them. Of course I wonder whether those where Michigan fans acting like Ohio St. fans. They were sure smiling like the cat that swallowed the canary.

You act as if Alabama fans are devastated by that game -your perturbation is laughable! Every Alabama fan understood going in that this was going to be a tough year -they lost a good amount of talent and were starting with a new QB. They finished with the best possible result they could have expected, and improved every single game -unless you believe they should win EVERY year as a closet Bama fan. Maybe consider putting your time to better use -Bama will be just fine.... maybe focus on the shortcomings of your own team

 

[robinb]

LOL yeah, It's so funny to see the SEC honks with egg all over their faces.

Michigan players Troll Alabama

The original appears here.

I was thinking something similar. When I first saw the picture I thought why would you do that? Michigan beat you so even if they lost to Alabama, you really can't say jack because..... They still beat you. And well, now that Alabama lost, well that was doubly bad for them. Of course I wonder whether those where Michigan fans acting like Ohio St. fans. They were sure smiling like the cat that swallowed the canary.

LOL. Those videos.

I don't understand rooting against the team that beat yours in the playoff. Doesn't their loss reflect more against your team? That your team were beaten by a losing team? I would *much* rather comfort myself knowing that the team that beat my team was just too good instead of my team being just bad. Of course, that's just one of the lies we tell ourselves as fans, lol.

 

[WEDWDW]

J.J. McCarthy says that they do steal signs but they do it legally and to keep up with the sign stealing of Ohio State.

Interesting comment.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

You act as if Alabama fans are devastated by that game -your perturbation is laughable! Every Alabama fan understood going in that this was going to be a tough year -they lost a good amount of talent and were starting with a new QB. They finished with the best possible result they could have expected, and improved every single game -unless you believe they should win EVERY year as a closet Bama fan. Maybe consider putting your time to better use -Bama will be just fine.... maybe focus on the shortcomings of your own team

You don't even know which team I root for. It's more than a bit presumptuous given that lack of knowledge to state what I should focus on regarding that team. By the way, they have coaches whose job it is to do that. I'm flattered that you seem to think they need me to do it for them. But alas, they don't.

There were a few Alabama fans with perspective, however, most, including you, were running their mouths. Of course there are a lot more of them saying it now trying to salvage what little is left of their pride and deflecting their comeuppance. I'm glad you've finally come around to what I was saying about Alabama all along though. Took you long enough.

4. I really do get the sour grapes from FSU fans,

That's right. We don't want to hear any more Sour Grapes like the following from FSU fans.

3. Michigan should never have been in the playoffs because they should have been disqualified because….cheating matters.

Waaaaaah. Michigan cheated. Waaaaaaaah. Stop the whining about Michigan FSU fans.

Oh wait that wasn't FSU fans. That was you. My bad.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

LOL. Those videos.

I don't understand rooting against the team that beat yours in the playoff. Doesn't their loss reflect more against your team? That your team were beaten by a losing team? I would *much* rather comfort myself knowing that the team that beat my team was just too good instead of my team being just bad. Of course, that's just one of the lies we tell ourselves as fans, lol.

Oh no. I certainly understand rooting against your rival. It's the ineptness of the trolling that struck me. Again even if Michigan lost, Ohio St. still lost to Michigan. Those three in the shirts are just never going to get a good troll in.

 

[GAN]

You don't even know which team I root for. It's more than a bit presumptuous given that lack of knowledge to state what I should focus on regarding that team. By the way, they have coaches whose job it is to do that. I'm flattered that you seem to think they need me to do it for them. But alas, they don't.

There were a few Alabama fans with perspective, however, most, including you, were running their mouths. Of course there are a lot more of them saying it now trying to salvage what little is left of their pride and deflecting their comeuppance. I'm glad you've finally come around to what I was saying about Alabama all along though. Took you long enough.




That's right. We don't want to hear any more Sour Grapes like the following from FSU fans.




View attachment 822862

Waaaaaah. Michigan cheated. Waaaaaaaah. Stop the whining about Michigan FSU fans.

Oh wait that wasn't FSU fans. That was you. My bad.

I couldn‘t care less what team you root for. As far as running my mouth -I’d like to see that. I’m an Alabama fan, but I don’t “run my mouth” about them …show me where I’ve ever boasted, or cried about an Alabama game, or an Alabama team not getting in the CFP. You‘ve fallen all over yourself whining about the FSU snub on a Disney discussion board…. please, save yourself from further personal embarrassment.

 

[Disneychick13]

You don't even know which team I root for. It's more than a bit presumptuous given that lack of knowledge to state what I should focus on regarding that team. By the way, they have coaches whose job it is to do that. I'm flattered that you seem to think they need me to do it for them. But alas, they don't.

There were a few Alabama fans with perspective, however, most, including you, were running their mouths. Of course there are a lot more of them saying it now trying to salvage what little is left of their pride and deflecting their comeuppance. I'm glad you've finally come around to what I was saying about Alabama all along though. Took you long enough.




That's right. We don't want to hear any more Sour Grapes like the following from FSU fans.




View attachment 822862

Waaaaaah. Michigan cheated. Waaaaaaaah. Stop the whining about Michigan FSU fans.

Oh wait that wasn't FSU fans. That was you. My bad.

You don’t know which team I root for either. (Actually the playoff games are the only college football I watched the whole season because,.. spoiler alert I really don’t care one way or another. It’s just an interesting topic of discussion.)

 

[WEDWDW]

Ohio State has picked up Seth McLaughlin from the Portal.

Word is that Michigan has offered to pay Seth's NIL deal if Ohio State will start him at Center when they play this year.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Ohio State has picked up Seth McLaughlin from the Portal.

Word is that Michigan has offered to pay Seth's NIL deal if Ohio State will start him at Center when they play this year.

LOL Auburn needed to get on the ball and promise him more money to stay at Alabama But OSU did get the QB they were after. I guess Miller Moss scared him off from transferring to USC.

You don’t know which team I root for either. (Actually the playoff games are the only college football I watched the whole season because,.. spoiler alert I really don’t care one way or another. It’s just an interesting topic of discussion.)

I never stated who you root for. Nor is knowing that necessary to point out you were talking about FSU fans whining out of one side of your mouth all the while doing the same thing regarding Michigan in the very same post out of the other side.

I couldn‘t care less what team you root for. As far as running my mouth -I’d like to see that. I’m an Alabama fan, but I don’t “run my mouth” about them …show me where I’ve ever boasted, or cried about an Alabama game, or an Alabama team not getting in the CFP. You‘ve fallen all over yourself whining about the FSU snub on a Disney discussion board…. please, save yourself from further personal embarrassment.

You want to see that? Well then. Get yourself a mirror, and watch yourself read your own posts in this thread. You've been boasting that Alabama belonged in the playoff and how great your conference was and sos this and we beat Georgia that the whole thread. Then when FSU lost you pranced around like a peacock. Well then it happened to your team. And all that smack you talked got rubbed back in your face. Your mouth wrote a check neither you nor your team could cash. Most people would wise up at this point. But you're still talking trash even after your team lost and you have nothing to talk about. I would think at least you could eat your crow like an adult. But it appears I'm mistaken in that regard.

LOL. Those videos.

I don't understand rooting against the team that beat yours in the playoff. Doesn't their loss reflect more against your team? That your team were beaten by a losing team? I would *much* rather comfort myself knowing that the team that beat my team was just too good instead of my team being just bad. Of course, that's just one of the lies we tell ourselves as fans, lol.

I'm glad you liked those videos. Here's another one on the why subject. Texas fans trying to argue with Washington players. Why? What can you possibly say to those players. to make them unhappy? They just beat your team lol. I'm not good at estimating ages. How old is that Texas fan 40? I wonder what that kid next to him at the end is thinking.

It appears Texas will fit right into the SEC. HAHAHA.

 

[Disneychick13]

LOL Auburn needed to get on the ball and promise him more money to stay at Alabama But OSU did get the QB they were after. I guess Miller Moss scared him off from transferring to USC.


I never stated who you root for. Nor is knowing that necessary to point out you were talking about FSU fans whining out of one side of your mouth all the while doing the same thing regarding Michigan in the very same post out of the other side.


You want to see that? Well then. Get yourself a mirror, and watch yourself read your own posts in this thread. You've been boasting that Alabama belonged in the playoff and how great your conference was and sos this and we beat Georgia that the whole thread. Then when FSU lost you pranced around like a peacock. Well then it happened to your team. And all that smack you talked got rubbed back in your face. Your mouth wrote a check neither you nor your team could cash. Most people would wise up at this point. But you're still talking trash even after your team lost and you have nothing to talk about. I would think at least you could eat your crow like an adult. But it appears I'm mistaken in that regard.

I'm glad you liked those videos. Here's another one on the why subject. Texas fans trying to argue with Washington players. Why? What can you possibly say to those players. to make them unhappy? They just beat your team lol. I'm not good at estimating ages. How old is that Texas fan 40? I wonder what that kid next to him at the end is thinking.

It appears Texas will fit right into the SEC. HAHAHA.

So my only FSU point is that they were an undefeated team, that was in the top 4 the previous week, remained undefeated and their status changed due to nothing that happened with their team. So that I could understand how fans might be frustrated. That’s actually totally different from being slightly confused that a team who was caught cheating, and whose coach was suspended because they got caught cheating, was still eligible for a playoff spot. Now if you told me that Michigan fans would have been totally fine with being shut out of the playoffs (because they literally got caught cheating) then I guess you are right that anyone who might have a difference of opinion with the college playoff selection committee (or whatever they are called) would just be ridiculous.

I actually don’t disagree with Alabama having been in the playoffs, but I also could have seen a case for FSU or even Georgia. It’s not a perfect system and will not be perfect (only better with a 12 team selection). I do disagree with Michigan being included (even though I am certain they are a very good team) because I think the possibility of any of their wins being attained by nefarious means disqualified them. Obviously the committee did not/or could not have taken that into account.

 

[WEDWDW]

Washington fans have to be ELATED to only be down 7!

Washington gets the ball to start the second half -I think Washington takes this thing and become the TOP Dawgs for 2023.

 

[WEDWDW]

WOW!

Washington no match for Michigan.

Look like the Rose Bowl was the NC game.

Not a Michigan fan,but Hail to the Victors.

 

[robinb]

Congratulations to Michigan! I’m so happy a B1G team is #1.