declansdad
DIS Dad #639 New Brunswick, Canada
- Joined
- Apr 14, 2004
Michael and Brittany are scum.
This argument comes up in other circumstances*, and it always presumes fairness and an equal playing field is involved. It has become an issue in Survivor, and will be a perpetual issue in Big Brother and other shows where people are voted out by the group. Why in all of the previous seasons had a black player never been able to win? I am more of an occasional Big Brother watcher, has there never been an alliance of only white people on the show? They wouldn't need to say it out loud, it would just be what they do, a great example of an implicit arrangement.Based on what was shown on the air, he wasn't being racist at all and Brittany and Michael are terrible people to use this in the manner that they did.
On thing that bother me is why is it ok for a group of African-American people to form an alliance based on their race but not OK for a group of white people? It is either racist or it isn't; you can't have it both ways.
Of course what he said is racist. Just a more subtle form of it.Based on what was shown on the air, he wasn't being racist at all and Brittany and Michael are terrible people to use this in the manner that they did.
On thing that bother me is why is it ok for a group of African-American people to form an alliance based on their race but not OK for a group of white people? It is either racist or it isn't; you can't have it both ways.
Of course what he said is racist. Just a more subtle form of it.
Several times he mentioned the POC and how close they were and that they could be the next cook out. He basically said the white people should align against them. He had absolutely no evidence this was happening, yet he said it was his biggest fear. In fact, it was quite obvious some POC were not close at all and didn’t even like each other very much (Jasmine for example), and also the fact that they voted Ameerah out.
Kyle also mentioned on at at least two occasions how loud and aggressive Monte, Taylor, and Joseph were. And they most certainly were not. That is a racist stereotype.
Anyway. I felt the house guests handled it very well. They were kind and loving and supportive. And Kyle did seem remorseful. It’s possible he only knew of blatant, obvious racism, and was unable to see his biases. Hopefully he can learn from this.
I’m so disappointed with Michael and Brittney. They clearly held onto the information until it would benefit them. If they had told people prior to the house split, Joseph would still be in the house. Michael is easily the strongest competitor. He did not need to take his gameplay this far. That will bite him, and may cost him the win.
I don’t follow the feeds. Kyle said those things on tv.I said what they showed on air and that was simply he talking about the possibility of that alliance, that is not racist. What he said on the live feeds could very well have been.
Most of the house handled it well but I don't include Michael and Brittany in that group. They used it for game play and not out of some sense of morality. He even said so.
This argument comes up in other circumstances*, and it always presumes fairness and an equal playing field is involved. It has become an issue in Survivor, and will be a perpetual issue in Big Brother and other shows where people are voted out by the group. Why in all of the previous seasons had a black player never been able to win? I am more of an occasional Big Brother watcher, has there never been an alliance of only white people on the show? They wouldn't need to say it out loud, it would just be what they do, a great example of an implicit arrangement.
*Same argument is used by people who should know better in other cases - why is it OK for a black student group at a college but not a whites-only group, why should there be an LGBTQ support group but not a straight student group? The dominant majority doesn't need the support. As a young woman studying engineering in the 1980's, i appreciated a group to discuss specific issues the male students didn't have.
Being from MA I was rooting for Turner from the start. Given that he’s the youngest in the house and has had to set the others straight has made me respect him more. The speech he made to the others back when they were bullying Taylor was great and reset the tone in that house.On a lighter note.....
I wasn't sure how I felt about Turner at the beginning of the game but I kinda like his no nonsense attitude and smart comments in the diary room. I didn't care for Taylor's "clothes modeling" at the beginning of the season. But now hearing that it is a common thing that the women do to have fun in the house, I believe CBS was trying to paint her as a snotty pageant girl.
Since Joseph is now gone, I think my favorites going forward are Turner, Monte, and Taylor. I like Terrance but his gameplay is a little weak.
Exactly what I was thinking too!On thing that bother me is why is it ok for a group of African-American people to form an alliance based on their race but not OK for a group of white people? It is either racist or it isn't; you can't have it both ways.
Also, does Brittany realize that she has done nothing but ride Michael's coattails to this position? Maybe that's unfair because she was able to befriend some of the girls, which probably gave her information, but other than that, what has she done?
Oh, and I'm happy she was able to use her professional skills to help Alyssa, but then saying she thinks that gives her an advantage with Alyssa, as her voice will now be more trusted by her? That's kind of low.
Only time will tell if Kyle is remorseful and wants to learn. Right now he’s just caught.I agree, I don't Michael wins after this. He really left a bad taste in people's mouths hanging onto that info and then used it as a weapon, not because it was weighing on him. I'm really disappointed he did that. He should have spoken up right away.
Like someone pointed out, it wasn't just that Kyle said there was a POC alliance when there wasn't one, he also said Monte, Taylor and Joseph were loud and aggressive, which couldn't be further from the truth.
I was really moved listening to the conversation Monte and Kyle had. My heart really broke for Monte. Monte, Taylor and Terrance showed Kyle grace when they really didn't have to. Shows how kind they are. I do hope Kyle learns from this. It does look like he is very remorseful and is serious when he said he wants to grow.
Although, I don't remember Zingbot targeting someone's looks like he did Michael before. Maybe there's more to it? I was hoping he'd say something about Michael being a com beast or some other thing he does, not his face.Zingbot was pretty tame this year