princessmommyx3
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Fauci just said today that he expects it to be "open season" (meaning anyone who wants one can get one) by April. Time will tell.....
Hope you are correct. I am in a lower level Tier 1 risk group and mutiple sources tell me not to expect my first vaccine until September.
I think your sources may be sharing old info. Forecasts have been updated to reflect additional production. Good news!Hope you are correct. I am in a lower level Tier 1 risk group and mutiple sources tell me not to expect my first vaccine until September.
My concern is STATES at this point can't get enough vaccine, how are cruise lines going to get priority or event find vaccine for International staff?
Sorry if I don't feel sorry for Carnival as an example who ran a profit of $7b in 2019.
Yes I understand they are hurting but its not like they were not raking it in and beyond that purposely avoiding labor laws in countries like the US.
It completely sucks the employees are left out to dry.
Bad news. CVS starts vaccines tomorrow, and almost all the vaccine is already spoken for. Other public clinics are canceling reservations because they are out vaccine. California Governor Newsom addressed that yesterday, we don't have enough vaccine. BAD NEWSI think your sources may be sharing old info. Forecasts have been updated to reflect additional production. Good news!
OK.Bad news. CVS starts vaccines tomorrow, and almost all the vaccine is already spoken for
Essential worker. 63, 64 in June. Minor qualifying health issues. I can be surprised by an early vaccine as I deal with this daily, but I am prepared not to be surprised. The people in charge are the ones sounding the alarmOK.
I was talking about April into May or June, not tomorrow.
Your CVS will get more vaccine on a regular basis.
If you qualify by age for a vaccine now, you may have to keep an eye out. It will get better.
Surprisingly I was able to get an appointment for my 87 year old mother through CVS here in Massachusetts just an hour ago. There were still a lot of time slots available. I originally stayed up until midnight however the site crashed but I logged on today and got it.Bad news. CVS starts vaccines tomorrow, and almost all the vaccine is already spoken for. Other public clinics are canceling reservations because they are out vaccine. California Governor Newsom addressed that yesterday, we don't have enough vaccine. BAD NEWS
Disney cruises already cost 3X as much as the competition, and their workers aren't treated correspondingly better. The same goes for other upscale lines. So no, it isn't the consumer's choice that the lines take advantage of their workers.As to labor laws, they hire mostly foreign workers and operate vessels flagged in foreign countries. Perhaps to avoid US labor laws. However if they were to operate US flagged ships, the cruises would cost 3X as much. The consumer needs to make the choice, cheap cruises or paying these people more money.
NCL's Pride of America is a U.S. flagged ship and has operated as such for many years with mostly U.S. staff making at least U.S minimum wage. It is a relatively inexpensive cruise. However, you get the hard sell for everything extra cost in exchange for that. I sailed on her over a decade ago. It was more like a hotel than a cruise, and service was alright but probably lower than any other ship I have been on.As to labor laws, they hire mostly foreign workers and operate vessels flagged in foreign countries. Perhaps to avoid US labor laws. However if they were to operate US flagged ships, the cruises would cost 3X as much. The consumer needs to make the choice, cheap cruises or paying these people more money. It really is the consumers choice, they can opt not to go on the cruise if they feel strongly enough about it.
Disney cruises already cost 3X as much as the competition, and their workers aren't treated correspondingly better. The same goes for other upscale lines. So no, it isn't the consumer's choice that the lines take advantage of their workers.
Requiring internet access to get on a vaccine list is ableist and often classist.
Our distribution is a mess.
When you compare it to a similar length Caribbean cruise or even perhaps a Hawaiian cruise that sails from the US mainland with a stop in Mexico, it is quite a bit more expensive. An inside for September right now is almost $4K for two people. You can easily get a Caribbean cruise for half that. I also don't know how they pay their wait staff. Do they earn a wage based on tipped employees, or based on Hawaii minimum wage. From everything I have heard about the ship, they also seem to cut corners in other areas to cover the higher labor costs they endure.NCL's Pride of America is a U.S. flagged ship and has operated as such for many years with mostly U.S. staff making at least U.S minimum wage. It is a relatively inexpensive cruise. However, you get the hard sell for everything extra cost in exchange for that. I sailed on her over a decade ago. It was more like a hotel than a cruise, and service was alright but probably lower than any other ship I have been on.
Today, it's anything but. We have priced our DCL Hawaii 10-nighter against NCL's 7-nighter, and NCL's actually comes out more expensive per night.NCL's Pride of America is a U.S. flagged ship and has operated as such for many years with mostly U.S. staff making at least U.S minimum wage. It is a relatively inexpensive cruise. However, you get the hard sell for everything extra cost in exchange for that. I sailed on her over a decade ago. It was more like a hotel than a cruise, and service was alright but probably lower than any other ship I have been on.
It is absolutely usually at least double the price of other mass market cruise lines for the same category of stateroom.I don't think Disney is really 3X competitors in most cases. It's not even double.
It is absolutely usually at least double the price of other mass market cruise lines for the same category of stateroom.
Current catalog price on NCL Pride of America, outside stateroom, $600 person in May with $1,700 per person discount.When you compare it to a similar length Caribbean cruise or even perhaps a Hawaiian cruise that sails from the US mainland with a stop in Mexico, it is quite a bit more expensive. An inside for September right now is almost $4K for two people. You can easily get a Caribbean cruise for half that. I also don't know how they pay their wait staff. Do they earn a wage based on tipped employees, or based on Hawaii minimum wage. From everything I have heard about the ship, they also seem to cut corners in other areas to cover the higher labor costs they endure.