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- Feb 7, 2005
Hourly workers are the same - they don't work they don't get paid.
There are already more holidays than what most companies include as paid days off, so this could just be another holiday that’s a normal workday. If they do choose to have it as a paid day off and if you get 10 paid holidays and your company chose to swap one out with Juneteenth, you’re not really “losing” a holiday if you still wind up with 10 free days off.The problem is that many people will now lose a holiday somewhere. Right now there are 10 Federal Holidays, which one do you (or your company) give up? Most companies cannot just simply add another paid vacation day.
it will just turn into another “big sale at stores “day.
No but hourly employee get double or time and a half
No, not at all. July 4th was when the United States declared independence from England's monarchy. That was a pivotal day -- not only in American history, but in world history.We celebrate July 4th despite very large portions of our population not being "independent" after that day. Is that an empty symbol as well?
I have no problem celebrating the end of slavery. We SHOULD celebrate it.National holidays create awareness along with reflection regarding that day. Despite the flaws noted, Juneteenth is very deserving of that status as slavery was a huge stain on our history.
First, “Juneteenth” is not a cutesy mashup and it most certainly doesn’t need another name. It has ALWAYS been called that by the very people who celebrate it. My family lived near the Black community in our town and were always invited to, and attended, Juneteenth festivities for at least 100 years. Maybe longer, but I have no way of asking those who would’ve celebrated over a century ago. But the name Juneteenth is the legitimate name of the holiday.
No, it celebrates June 19th, 1865, which was the very year the war ended and June 19th was only a few months after the war ended. It was 2.5 years after Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation during the war.It marks the day that slavery truly ended in the US... 2 years after the Civil War ended.
"So what?" The end of slavery. No big deal? You need a serious history lesson about what slavery was actually like, if you think its end was no big deal."Juneteenth" is also kind of an empty symbol to me. Texas may have officially "freed" all slaves then, but so what?
Good Friday is not a Federal Holiday.
We Southerners have never been much bothered over Columbus Day -- we haven't had it off school since I was a kid.Easy. Banish Columbus Day.
That certainly will p.o. a lot of people.
Or change the name to Native American or Indigenous Peoples Day. THAT might p.o. even MORE. Win win.
I was thinking that'd happen, but how serious will people be about it? I mean, are people serious about shopping at black owned businesses for Kwanza? Askin', not tellin'.If this happens, I hope the focus will be on black owned businesses.
Not true. Both of my daughters are in professional jobs but are paid hourly -- one's a nurse, one's a social worker. They get paid for holidays.So you may lose another paid holiday in its place. I prefer to think that at least you get paid holidays. I've never had a paid holiday. If we didn't have school that day we didn't get paid. Hourly workers are the same - they don't work they don't get paid.
Thing is, we can't make ALL those dates federal holidays.... But I think the date of Abraham Lincoln signing the Emancipation Proclamation is a much more meaningful national milestone. Or LBJ signing the Civil Rights Act of 1964, or the date of the Brown vs. Board of Education Supreme Court decision. As I said above, I have no problem with the holiday, but in African-American history, I think there are a lot more important dates than June 19 ...
We used to get it off when I started working. Might've been a state holiday, but definitely when we started getting MLK day, we lost Good Friday as a paid holiday.Good Friday is not a Federal Holiday.
I know you're coming at it from a practical standpoint.I didn’t mean it like that. I just think it should be celebrated within Election Day itself.
I agree with you. I just don't think some Army soldiers reading a proclamation in Texas really changed the course of history. I don't care if people celebrate it, but the MLK holiday is much more meaningful to me."So what?" The end of slavery. No big deal? You need a serious history lesson about what slavery was actually like, if you think its end was no big deal.
JimMIA said:And what about women...and Asian-Americans...and Hispanic-Americans...and Jewish people...and Native Americans...and Irish-Americans (St. Pats is not a national holiday)...and Swedish-Americans...and Pacific Islanders...and on and on and on and on...
Why not? Are they not important enough?Thing is, we can't make ALL those dates federal holidays.
Why not? Are they not important enough?
Which group is not important enough to celebrate?