Mackenzie Click-Mickelson
Chugging along the path of life
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No worries! It's 19 pages at this point, I'd probably do the same if I was just joining inOops, I just jumped in at the back end of the thread.
No worries! It's 19 pages at this point, I'd probably do the same if I was just joining inOops, I just jumped in at the back end of the thread.
Wow, they are asking? A good time to mention that the prices for taking more away (no EMH's, less parades, price increases, etc, etc) is why. If not many were cancelling, they wouldn't ask.Canceled our Jan week. I was on the fence and wavered but a today, after a 2 1/2 hour wait in disneys Chat mode, I just canceled it all. I did not rebook for later ‘22.
I did notice that they now ask Why one canceled. Perhaps when they hear more, they’ll react. ? We can Hope..
Stay Safe All!!
Wow, they are asking? A good time to mention that the prices for taking more away (no EMH's, less parades, price increases, etc, etc) is why. If not many were cancelling, they wouldn't ask.Canceled our Jan week. I was on the fence and wavered but a today, after a 2 1/2 hour wait in disneys Chat mode, I just canceled it all. I did not rebook for later ‘22.
I did notice that they now ask Why one canceled. Perhaps when they hear more, they’ll react. ? We can Hope..
Stay Safe All!!
Not sure why you were trying to explain my own point to me. I knew exactly what I was referring to. That is all. But nothing new... moving on.I was talking about your comment and the other person's. The vast majority of people who say USO doesn't require planning compared to WDW are doing so because of what I mentioned. That's all the point I was making. I don't plan the same amount as I know a lot of people do for WDW but even I get the remarked difference between USO and WDW in that respect. It's so relaxing at USO when so much of the stuff doesn't exist that does at WDW even of you personally don't utilize all the things at WDW that exist there. Clearly YMMV but many people say they'll go over to USO because it doesn't have the stuff that Disney does. You disagree that's fine just explaing, spend some time over on the Universal Boards it's fun
Anyways carry on, not really the point of this thread to compare merits of a USO vacation in depth.
OkayNot sure why you were trying to explain my own point to me. I knew exactly what I was referring to. That is all. But nothing new... moving on.
That would depend on when...The last time I went to UOR (in 2016) wait times were short on weekdays. The only time an Express Pass would be helpful was on weekends, when wait times for popular rides balooned. Is that not the case now?
For my family our extent of planning is booking our flight, hotel, car and tickets to whatever we plan to visit. We don't book restaurants ahead of time or what we are doing each day. We make it up as we go and it works great. It's my one biggest gripe with Disney is the amount of non sensical planning involved.I always spend just as much time planning my Universal days as my Disney days. And the same for any and every vacation I take. But its never really been much for me for Disney at all, and I find it to be significantly less now than ever.
Planning is planning, I don't believe I ever specified what specific kind of planning I was referring to.
Funny how it’s still packed then.I know it's different for everyone. Judging by the cancellations and people opting for other places now I would say people aren't finding the value now.
We visited Disneyland for 3 days last week. Since the majority of the guests were local annual pass holders very few people bought it. We were able to skip the line for every ride going from one ride to the next. It was well worth the money since we only visit once every couple of years. I haven’t t tried it at WDW yet, but it does not sound like I’m going to have the same type of experience.The UO express pass model would have to be priced at something like $500 per person per day at Disney to make it work. And no freebies for Deluxe guests.
If Disney doesn't want to go that far, I think they could make Genie+ substantially more effective by substantially raising the price. If you had the same basic rules as now --- one LL and a time (or stacked every two hours) and limit of one LL per ride --- but raised the price to, say, $99 per person per day, then far fewer people would purchase it. (In fact, you would need to cap the number sold to make sure that the value is there.) If far fewer were sold, then those who bought it really would be able to skip the line at every ride, and really would get great value from it, even on crowded days. And, since far fewer people would be using it, the standby lines would not be nearly as bad as they are right now. That's a win / win for everyone. Including Disney, since the revenue generated would be about the same as what they are getting now.
I would use scaled pricing: something like $49 on regular days, $74 on busy days, $99 on crowded days. And I would cap the number sold at about 1/4 of the number they are selling right now. I'm not sure whether or not I personally would buy them for my family. But it would be nice to know that, if I did buy them, I would get real value from them. Unlike the current situation.
Yes it's busy but not like it normally is. I have seen more posts saying people aren't in a hurry to go back.Funny how it’s still packed then.
I'm wondering if some of the busy crowds are because nobody was able to travel for so long and people also had to use travel credits/reservations or risk losing their vacations altogether. It will be interesting to see how things are in a couple of years, when the AP holders stop going (and stop renewing their passes) and when the "we'll only go every few years" decide to look elsewhere for a vacation. I mean now regular media is noticing the insane price increases and the "Skimpflation" that's happening. I know Disney has to recoup their losses from being closed for so long, but the regular reports of people having to go and ask for clean towels because of no Mousekeeping and the bad press about not having Trams for so long makes me wonder if that will start to make people reconsider going (once the newness of being able to go wears off).Yes it's busy but not like it normally is. I have seen more posts saying people aren't in a hurry to go back.
There are no discounts on hotel rooms and people are still going. I think that says a lot.Yes it's busy but not like it normally is. I have seen more posts saying people aren't in a hurry to go back.
I believe a lot of people that are going right now a making up cancelled trips and as she previous poster said from people being cooped up for a while.There are no discounts on hotel rooms and people are still going. I think that says a lot.
Yes it's busy but not like it normally is. I have seen more posts saying people aren't in a hurry to go back.
That would depend on when...
During peak season the lines are long on weekdays and Express would be worth it. If you go during a slow time you will still find wait times are short on weekdays.
It depends on where you live if you've been couped or not. I certainly have not been. It may have more to do with limited travel options because certain states are not desirable and international travel is a complete PITA. I still can't wrap my brain around people paying 700+ a night for a standard deluxe room or 300 a night for a value. It's amazing they can get people to pay these rates. Good for them...I guess. We always stayed Deluxe with 35%-40% off or 25%- 30% off a mod. There's a limit to how much I will pay.I believe a lot of people that are going right now a making up cancelled trips and as she previous poster said from people being cooped up for a while.