The grills there are fine for grilling burgers and such. But I prefer to have a grill with a top for more control over the temperature for slow cooking. I have made a foil dome that worked ok for doing chicken but I will take my Webber kettle any day. Most of the grills have been replaced with the newer style that lets you have complete control over how far your food is away from the fire and you can even flip the grill all the way over behind the grill so you can roast marshmallows or hot dogs on a stick. But a few of the sites still have the old style that just has 3 positions for the grill.