Retirement. Is your state good.

Sjm9911

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Just thinking. And with that comes more thinking. As I may be getting forced retired ( I know Ed, I think I said I would be joining you soon), I may be looking for a new place to live. So, the question is, is your state area good for retirees and people with young kids? Plus would be nice to have fun crap to do and campgeounds. So what say you.
 


Thats kinda the problem, i have no idea about living elsewhere. Pa, I know , and it may be better then NJ. Ideally, near water, and I still have a 10 yo. Mostly it will be to stretch the pension. Unfortunately, I am 48 and will have to make ot work. I can probably make it work where I am, but just checking options. Taxes here are well, high. I just moved a few years ago, because of the property taxes, and I'm happier , but if retired, way before I wanted , it may be better to move.
 


Illinois is funny. They don't tax retirement income or 401k distributions, but housing and real estate taxes will make up for it.

I'm still leaning heavily to Florida. Maybe AL. Overall cost of living is lower in AL, but they tax part of your retirement.

I'll likely end up along the Gulf coast somewhere.

j
 
I know Delaware has been the new go to for people in PA and NJ. Close to the area to get back but lower cost of living. Downside. Most naturally born Delaware residents especially in the lower half of the state will have great resentment toward you. I have a couple of customers in Delaware. They are OK to visit but I don't know much else.

Personally, I would have left the state a long time ago. I am native born Jerseyan too. My wife on the other hand is from PA and doesn't want to move back to PA nor leave NJ. That's another story on why. I am someone that could relocate and find work. I could also get my current employer to allow me to work for them remotely if needed. One side of the company is travel. So living somewhere cheaper but having access to airlines would not be a bad thing.
 
I thibk the propert tax in delaware is like half of nj. Lol. I am looking, who knows. I do like this house and honestly am just getting settled. But I have to look at all options. In the small house I just moved from the property taxes were like 18k. Now im at 10k. So that was a win. Just not sure if I can take the taxes and hit on the pension long term. Our pension does not have colas, and I do not get social security. So I will only have the pension and it may be good for a while, down the line is where I will have to make up money or supplement. O figure if I cut costs now, it will be better later.
 
I thibk the propert tax in delaware is like half of nj. Lol. I am looking, who knows. I do like this house and honestly am just getting settled. But I have to look at all options. In the small house I just moved from the property taxes were like 18k. Now im at 10k. So that was a win. Just not sure if I can take the taxes and hit on the pension long term. Our pension does not have colas, and I do not get social security. So I will only have the pension and it may be good for a while, down the line is where I will have to make up money or supplement. O figure if I cut costs now, it will be better later.
10k, OMG. Ours are $1500.
 
Don’t come to CT! Property taxes are high and cost of living is high. Our property takes are over $15k and we live in a much lower area for property taxes because we have no city water, city sewer, or garbage pickup. And CT also taxes your vehicles so that’s an additional cost.

We don’t plan on retiring here and staying here forever, though many people do and make it work. My parents are retired and chose to move back to CT because their then only grandchild (my now 8 year old) was here and then another grandchild came along a year later (my now 6 year old). But they live in a great small city with lots to do and a pretty and diverse downtown, due in part to Wesleyan University.

I like raising my kids here because we are close to many things. Most of my extended family is here. The schools in our very small town are excellent and many families move here just to get their kids in the schools. I dislike how expensive it is to buy a home in our small town and I dislike that there are very few options for those who are 55+ or young people just starting out.
 
Omg I can’t even imagine how amazing that is. Some day, when our girls are grown and on their own, we are going to be snowbirds somewhere where it’s warm and property taxes are a fraction of what we pay here.
That was exactly my thought aa well. But since my job may be gone soon, I figure I have nothing to really tie me down. Might be better to make the jump now then to wait. Originally, plan was simmiler to yours , downsize after the kido gets older, and move residence to Florida. Have a smaller house etc. Unfortunately, stuff changes.
 
My state, Alabama, is a good one to retire in.

I know there are states such as TN, TX, and FL that have no state income tax and while that's true, it's not a free ride. Those states generally have some mix of high property taxes, sales taxes, gas taxes, insurance, and the like. I helped one child start up in Texas and it was eye opening for him ("say hello to your Uncle Sam"). So in the end, you end up paying out regardless of where you live.

For Alabama, specifically, they do not tax pension or Social Security income. They mirror federal treatment on Roth IRA/401k distributions (no tax). They do tax regular IRA/401k distributions of course. The top marginal state income tax rate is 5%.

Alabama has a couple different "vibes" to it. Up north around Huntsville, it's high tech (NASA has Redstone Arsenal up there) and currently one of the fastest growing areas. My kids don't want to live in Atlanta and Nashville is starting to get crowded but Huntsville would be acceptable to them (it does not have as much of a southern feel to it). Mobile (and the Eastern Shore area) is obviously influenced by its proximity to the Gulf. More sunshine (and hurricanes). We have some nice mountain areas in the northeast corner.

Personally I like living in a college town. Beside the athletic and arts opportunities it provides along with the community related spin-offs, there is a certain kind of rhythm to life. I can get across town in 15 minutes (except for Friday afternoons) and if I want to live a more rural life, I don't have to go too far out to do so. People are generally nicer and friendlier.

I will say that property taxes vary widely around the state but most of that is driven by the desire for quality public education. In the Birmingham metro area (the biggest metro area in the state) the property taxes are a little higher because the money is specifically for the school systems in the Over-The-Mountain (southern suburbs). Homewood, Vestavia Hills, Mountain Brook, Hoover, Shelby County systems have all become adept at building/converting schools, hiring teachers and emphasizing a quality staff, making changes when promises aren't kept, providing arts and music opportunities as well as sports and academics. Eastern Birmingham suburbs like Trussville and Springville are also growing. The proof is when these school taxes/mils expire and have to be voted back in again to be renewed, they usually pass overwhelmingly. When I left 4 years ago, my Hoover house was worth $200k+ and I paid $1,700 a year in property tax (over half that directly to school). Compare that to my home town now (also where I grew up). Property taxes are low (I pay less than $1,000 a year and the house is worth a little more) but the public school systems aren't generally as great. Private schools have a stronger presence.

Alabama doesn't get the award for being THE top retirement state but it generally makes the Top Ten list.

Bama Ed

PS - and while I know pensions are becoming rare, what people do is roll over the pension lump sum (usually an option) into a separate IRA from other assets (don't mix them together) and can generally get a higher rate of return from investments than they would get for their money from the pension annuity/no-COLA option. Alabama allows this so you get the tax-free pension state benefit but can achieve better returns to try to keep up with inflation.
 
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That was exactly my thought aa well. But since my job may be gone soon, I figure I have nothing to really tie me down. Might be better to make the jump now then to wait. Originally, plan was simmiler to yours , downsize after the kido gets older, and move residence to Florida. Have a smaller house etc. Unfortunately, stuff changes.
I’m so sorry to hear about your job :( I would definitely see this as an opportunity to downsize now and to move to where ever you planned to be. We’ve seen quite a few neighbors on our road doing the same with the transition to remote work. Their homes have been snapped up at top dollar by families looking to get out of NYC or Boston (we are not far from 95 and MetroNorth and are about 2 hours from NYC and also Boston so many locals commute to both).
 
My state, Alabama, is a good one to retire in.

I know there are states such as TN, TX, and FL that have no state income tax and while that's true, it's not a free ride. Those states generally have some mix of high property taxes, sales taxes, gas taxes, insurance, and the like. I helped one child start up in Texas and it was eye opening for him ("say hello to your Uncle Sam"). So in the end, you end up paying out regardless of where you live.

For Alabama, specifically, they do not tax pension or Social Security income. They mirror federal treatment on Roth IRA/401k distributions (no tax). They do tax regular IRA/401k distributions of course.

Alabama has a couple different "vibes" to it. Up north around Huntsville, it's high tech (NASA has Redstone Arsenal up there) and currently one of the fastest growing areas. My kids don't want to live in Atlanta and Nashville is starting to get crowded but Huntsville would be acceptable to them (it does not have as much of a southern feel to it). Mobile (and the Eastern Shore area) is obviously influenced by its proximity to the Gulf. More sunshine (and hurricanes). We have some nice mountain areas in the northeast corner.

Personally I like living in a college town. Beside the athletic and arts opportunities it provides along with the community related spin-offs, there is a certain kind of rhythm to life. I can get across town in 15 minutes (except for Friday afternoons) and if I want to live a more rural life, I don't have to go too far out to do so. People are generally nicer and friendlier.

I will say that property taxes vary widely around the state but most of that is driven by the desire for quality public education. In the Birmingham metro area (the biggest metro area in the state) the property taxes are a little higher because the money is specifically for the school systems in the Over-The-Mountain (southern suburbs). Homewood, Vestavia Hills, Mountain Brook, Hoover, Shelby County systems have all become adept at building/converting schools, hiring teachers and emphasizing a quality staff, making changes when promises aren't kept, providing arts and music opportunities as well as sports and academics. Eastern Birmingham suburbs like Trussville and Springville are also growing. The proof is when these school taxes/mils expire and have to be voted back in again to be renewed, they usually pass overwhelmingly. When I left 4 years ago, my Hoover house was worth $200k+ and I paid $1,700 a year in property tax (over half that directly to school). Compare that to my home town now (also where I grew up). Property taxes are low (I pay less than $1,000 a year and the house is worth a little more) but the public school systems aren't generally as great. Private schools have a stronger presence.

Alabama doesn't get the award for being THE top retirement state but it generally makes the Top Ten list.

Bama Ed

PS - and while I know pensions are becoming rare, what people do is roll over the pension lump sum (usually an option) into a separate IRA from other assets (don't mix them together) and can generally get a higher rate of return from investments than they would get for their money from the pension annuity option. Alabama allows this so you get the tax-free pension state benefit but can achieve better returns to try to keep up with inflation.
College town isn't a bad idea Ed, I could find work there, maybe easier then other places. Not much for me in my line of work. And I'm not really instrested in working for others. But, larger collages/ hospitals are always looking for public saftey specialists.
 

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