WDW Vet, planning a trip to DL...

2angelsinheaven

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I've been to WDW hundreds of times since we moved to FL in 1988, however now I'd like to try DL and have no idea where to start. We've never had to plan flights, car rentals, etc before. Hoping to get some great DIS advice on planning our trip to DL, we're trying to go around Sept (unless this is a busy time).
 
I just got back from DL and I am also a 15x WDW vet. Best advice is to realize that DL/DCA is MUCH smaller! If you are spending much over 3 or 4 days, plan do take in other S. CA. attractions. You will also appreciate "Walt's touch" in DL. Space Mountain is "WAY COOLER" than WDW!
 
I have not been to DL yet either, but your starting in the right location! The Disboards is a huge resource. Check all the stickies at the top for info on the parks, dining, hotels, etc.

I think one of the biggest differences between WDW and DLR are the hotels. There's not a huge amount of perks at staying on-site (and the hotels are quite pricey), and there are actually much closer hotels off-site on Harbour. Don't expect great pooling though -- it's not like Florida :sunny:

Also, travelling from an airport is a little more inconvenient without Magical Express. There are good threads on the board for the various shuttles if you're not renting.

Here are a few websites that I've bookmarked:

General Info:

http://disneyland.disney.go.com/disneyland/en_US/home/home?name=HomePage

http://www.wdwinfo.com/disneyland/#gold-disneyland-dishome

http://www.allearsnet.com/dlr/tp/dl/dl.htm

http://www.dlresortinfo.com/

http://www.scottware.com.au/theme/feature/crowds.htm

http://miceage.com/

http://mouseinfo.com/

http://mouseinfo.com/

Hotels:

http://www.accommodationsneardisney.com/default.asp

http://www.geocities.com/ashpsyche/DisneylandLinkMap.html

http://kingdommagictravel.com/disneyland/hotels/anaheim_hotels.htm

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotels-g29092-Anaheim_California-Hotels.html

Dining:

http://www.themouseforless.com/tripplanning/menus/dl/DLmap.shtml

http://www.mickeyxtreme.com/dlrdining.htm


That should keep you really busy :surfweb: Any others I've missed?
 
To help get you oriented here is an overhead view of the Disneyland resort.

http://www.beachcalifornia.com/dlmp.html

As you can see it is in the middle of the suburbs and doesn't feel anything like WDW but it is just as nice and exciting though compact. The thing you notice is that you don't have to stay at one of the 3 Disney hotels to be close. In fact there are a few hotels on Harbor Blvd that are closer than two of the three Disnet Hotels. But if you can afford it the Disney hotels are still more fun and the Grand Californian is awesome in its theme and location. We could be in DCA from our room in a minute to a minute and a half!
 
Since it's your first trip to DL, I will assume you know very little and make some general comments. I am planning our first trip to WDW in May, and have come to realize some differences between DLR and WDW that are worth noting.


1. The dynamics of parkhopping are completely different. DLR only has two parks, so that is one big difference. But the two are so physically close that you can easily hop back and forth - even multiple times on the same day. Plus, the hotels are so close it changes some dynamics there as well. It is so easy and time effective to get back and forth to your hotel, it just begs for long, relaxing breaks in the afternoon. At WDW there are more obstacles to this - you have to catch a bus or a boat, and it takes longer in general. Do the same things at DLR you would do at DLR: Get to the parks early - 20-30 minutes before opening, take a long hotel break (ours were 4-5 hours, with 3+ hours naps on most days), and come back in the evening to use your FastPasses, do some rides, and see some shows. Stay as late as your group can make it.

While some people insist on comparing DCA to DL and identifying all of its faults, it's proximity to DL and hence easy parkhopping has made it appear to be like another DL "land". You know, TomorrowLand, FanatasyLand, and now CaliforniaLand. So DL and DCA are to my family and many others just one big park. Viewed this way, it is a good addition to DL. The fact that parkhopping is included for "free" in your DL tickets reinforces this idea.


2. Transportation - similar to point 1 above. We have stayed at the DLR PP hotel and at good neighbors, and as long as you are close enough you will never need to get on a bus or tram all week (except when you head to Hollywood, obviously). We walked everywhere last August and never got in our car or a bus, taxi or tram.


3. If you have an idea to stay at a DLR hotel, if you book it through AAA you can then you can get Enhanced FastPass. IMO this is not as big a perk as some people make out, but if I was going to stay at a DLR hotel I would get it if I could. If you have not heard about it, this link discusses it and FastPass in general:

http://mousepad.mouseplanet.com/showthread.php?t=43193


4. If you have used FastPass (FP) at WDW very much you know it can really make a big difference and you should work it into your plans when you can. The DLR FP system has several loopholes that do not exist at WDW. This link I wrote based on our DLR trip in August 2005 gives an exhaustive discussion of this: http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=885132

To summarize some of the loopholes that do exist at DLR but not WDW:

a. There are "disconnected" FP rides at both DL and DCA, which means the FP return times do not affect other FP availability. I believe that Roger Rabbit at DL and Grizzley River Run at DCA are the only two at present.

b. The acceptance of expired FPs from the same day has been policy at DLR for many years. In 2005 on several occasions we used FP we got at 8AM (with return times of 8:45-9:45AM) and used them at 11:50PM that night with no problem whatsoever - 15 hours late.

c. Unlike WDW, when you enter either DL or DCA, your entrance tickets are initialized for both parks at the same time. If you are in to picking up FastPasses and parkhopping, you can enter one park and then send a FP runner to the other park to get FPs without everyone needing to enter that park.


5. Early Entry has some similarities and differences at DLR vs. WDW. First, only DL has it and not DCA. Second, it is pretty regular which days it occurs and what rides are open. The DL EE has no impact I can see on DCA. But if you are not going to use EE at DL on an EE day, that is an especially good day to start the morning at DCA. If you go to DL on an EE day and you do not use EE, you just need to avoid FantasyLand that day and the impact elsewhere will not be significant as long as you FP Space Mtn and Buzz LY.


6. Do some research on viewing locations for Remember Dreams Come True fireworks. My youngest two were 9 and 10 last summer and we wanted to see it from the hub. Most everyone stands up during the show, which can make it hard for kids to see unless you hold them. I got a spot on a curb in the hub so my youngest could see over those standing in front of them, and this worked out great for us.


7. Like WDW, there are some rides that are worth doing in both day and night because of the difference in experience. Here are a few off the top of my head:

a. Matterhorn
b. BTMRR
c. Splash Mtn
d. StoryBookLand Canal Boats
e. ToT at DCA
f. California Screamin at DCA
 
This map shows local hotels and locations:

http://www.geocities.com/ashpsyche/DisneylandLinkMap.html

We have stayed at the DLR PP, the Howard Johnsons, and Best Western Park Place Inn. We have converged on the BWPPI on our last two trips because it is the absolute closest hotel (Grand Californian may or may not be closer, depending on where your room is) and thus walking is kept to a minimum.
 
On the busiest days, Enhanced fastpass was a real plus! While lines for Space Mountain and Indiana Jones were well over an hour, we did them at our liesure multiple times. A DL, the cast members were not concerned with the end time on the FP. We collected fast passes that expired at 2pm and still used them at 5pm!

Fantasmic is shown on Tom Sawyer Island and most people line up VERY early to see the show. Unless you buy a package, you have to stand to watch..

If you are traveling that far for a once only experience, I would stay on Disney property. We loved the DLH. The rooms are huge and we had a great view of DTD with views of the Matterhorn, Splash, and most of DCA. You will pay more, but when are you going to go back to DL?
 
Laz said:
On the busiest days, Enhanced fastpass was a real plus! While lines for Space Mountain and Indiana Jones were well over an hour, we did them at our liesure multiple times. A DL, the cast members were not concerned with the end time on the FP. We collected fast passes that expired at 2pm and still used them at 5pm!

Fantasmic is shown on Tom Sawyer Island and most people line up VERY early to see the show. Unless you buy a package, you have to stand to watch..

If you are traveling that far for a once only experience, I would stay on Disney property. We loved the DLH. The rooms are huge and we had a great view of DTD with views of the Matterhorn, Splash, and most of DCA. You will pay more, but when are you going to go back to DL?

Did DLH have fridges in the room, and do you have any pics of the rooms? We are going in late June, and I would like to see the rooms. TIA! (Sorry to be a thread hijaker :moped: )
 
I'll say it since no one else has, FLY INTO ORANGE COUNTY OR LONG BEACH, stay away from LAX.
 
shellynn24 said:
Did DLH have fridges in the room, and do you have any pics of the rooms? We are going in late June, and I would like to see the rooms. TIA! (Sorry to be a thread hijaker :moped: )
When are you going in late June? You should pay attention to the Annual Pass (AP) blackout dates and the Pirates of the Caribbean movie premiere and ride re-opening.

The SoCal AP program starts blacking out dates at the end of June and that means locals with AP will show up in larger numbers before the blackout because it does not lift until late August.

See this link on AP blackouts - the left and middle columns are the important ones for you:

http://www.mouseplanet.com/misc.php?pg=blackout

See this link on POTC movie and ride impact at DL and DCA:

http://www.miceage.com/allutz/al041806a.htm

If I was going then and could schedule my days, I would go June 28-30 to see the re-opened POTC (opens June 24/25) and at least miss some of the AP people.
 
I am a long time WDW vet and just went to DL in March. From what I have read September is usally a good time to go, but will probably be busy than usual this year related to the 50th celebration. My family had a great time. We used AAA and stayed at Paradise Pier. I highly recommend this resort if you want to stay on site. The staff is great and we loved the PCH Grill. The walk was about 15 mins. to the parks and 10 mins. to DTD. If you have any questions fill free to ask. And by the way, we loved it. We are planning to go back in Fall 2007. Of course, we have to get back to WDW soon for Expedition Everest.
 
HydroGuy said:
If I was going then and could schedule my days, I would go June 28-30 to see the re-opened POTC (opens June 24/25) and at least miss some of the AP people.

Well I guess that's good news, we'll be there June 28-July 2.
 
if you're planning on a two day trip to dl and dca i suggest doing disneyland first day so you can at least catch the fireworks show. i do not suggest trying to do fantasmic and fireworks in the same day as it is nearly impossible. we tried it once in the summer and we just got shuffled out the gates at the end of fantasmic and got lost in the rush. it wasa bummer. but we did see random spots of it and decided that it was too cool to miss so we came back the next day after a halfday at dca (thats all it takes for my family) caught the parade at 7:00 and mom stayed and found a good spot for fireworks while we went and did some fav rides. it was a good deal
 
If you see the second Fantasmic show, and you see the fireworks near the castle, you can do both on one night.
 
dornen said:
i guess that makes sense. but do you really want to stay at dl until close?
If you are asking me personally, the answer is a definite "yes". It's the second best time to be at DL, with park opening the best.
 

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