Cars Land is possibly coming to Epcot

[umichigan10]

It is currently closed for a 2 month refurbishment, so hopefully it'll get a touch up and an update. I am not the biggest fan of the ride, but know plenty of people who love it.

I'm hoping so as well. It's very unique and I feel like the ride tries to keep with the spirit of Epcot and tell a story but comes up a bit short. I'm all for plussing

 

[Dfan79]

I hope that they are creating more family rides. I don't want anymore thrill rides to be in Epcot, it doesn't have to be like Universal Studios. They can still bring in the crowds with just really good rides. They didn't need a rollercoaster to get people to go to Norway in Epcot.

Hopefully they continue to focus on the usage of animatronics and great storytelling. Something Universal doesn't know how to do.

 

[umichigan10]

I hope that they are creating more family rides. I don't want anymore thrill rides to be in Epcot, it doesn't have to be like Universal Studios. They can still bring in the crowds with just really good rides. They didn't need a rollercoaster to get people to go to Norway in Epcot.

Hopefully they continue to focus on the usage of animatronics and great storytelling. Something Universal doesn't know how to do.

Agree 100%. I'm a thrill junkie but my favorite rides at Disney like haunted mansion are just that for their in depth theme and story. (Tower of terror is my favorite but I chalk that up just as much to theming as to thrill

 

[WDWFantasmicFan]

I hope that they are creating more family rides. I don't want anymore thrill rides to be in Epcot, it doesn't have to be like Universal Studios. They can still bring in the crowds with just really good rides. They didn't need a rollercoaster to get people to go to Norway in Epcot.

Hopefully they continue to focus on the usage of animatronics and great storytelling. Something Universal doesn't know how to do.

I agree! We need some more dark rides or similar attractions. The 'classic Disney' with a modern twist. Maybe some trackless rides (I know Ratatouille in Epcot is near enough certain now...). Those type of rides are the best, especially with what is possible with animatronics and effects now.

I wouldn't say no to some themed thrill rides though. A new water ride is overdue IMO, last one to open was Kali at DAK. I heard rumors a while ago about a potential flume ride coming to DHS at some point, but haven't heard anything about that for a while.

(Agree with the Universal comment, their attractions are all screens!)

 

[Dfan79]

Agree 100%. I'm a thrill junkie but my favorite rides at Disney like haunted mansion are just that for their in depth theme and story. (Tower of terror is my favorite but I chalk that up just as much to theming as to thrill

I agree! We need some more dark rides or similar attractions. The 'classic Disney' with a modern twist. Maybe some trackless rides (I know Ratatouille in Epcot is near enough certain now...). Those type of rides are the best, especially with what is possible with animatronics and effects now.

(Agree with the Universal comment, their attractions are all screens!)

Yep, Disney is the masters at creating rides for the whole family. They don't need to pick you up and shake you around like the Incredible Hulk. They were creating boat rides and lifelike animatronics in the 50's and 60's. And their classic rides still hold up today, even the often lamented "It's a Small World".

 

[MaryKatesMom]

I loved Mayer's Junkyard and Luigi's in cars land. Cute, family friendly, ADA friendly, excellent themeing with short lines.

I don't think the parks necessarily need more headliners rather smaller dark rides ( unfortunately in Florida with the rain they can't have the same outdoor rides California can enjoy). More capacity.

WS, IMHO, holds a crowd better than anywhere else in WDW, so 3-4 dark rides spaced nicely apart with a new Country where the Outpost currently resides. Would give people something to do besides stand in line at Pandora.

 

[Dfan79]

I loved Mayer's Junkyard and Luigi's in cars land. Cute, family friendly, ADA friendly, excellent themeing with short lines.

I don't think the parks necessarily need more headliners rather smaller dark rides ( unfortunately in Florida with the rain they can't have the same outdoor rides California can enjoy). More capacity.

WS, IMHO, holds a crowd better than anywhere else in WDW, so 3-4 dark rides spaced nicely apart with a new Country where the Outpost currently resides. Would give people something to do besides stand in line at Pandora.

That's true about the rides and the rain. I think it can be remedied though with a roof, much like they are doing with the similar Alien ride in Toy Story Land. Magic Kingdom also had to put a roof over their version of the Tea Cups.

I agree, World Showcase would be a perfect area for attractions like "Alice in Wonderland" and "Ratatouille". They are great family rides, which unlike thrill rides won't change the atmosphere of World Showcase. It would be impossible to still have the elegance and quietness of World Showcase with teenagers yelling "Wholly ****".

 

[MaryKatesMom]

It would be impossible to still have the elegance and quietness of World Showcase with teenagers yelling "Wholly ****".

Lol

 

[DisFanDad]

I hope that they are creating more family rides. I don't want anymore thrill rides to be in Epcot, it doesn't have to be like Universal Studios. They can still bring in the crowds with just really good rides. They didn't need a rollercoaster to get people to go to Norway in Epcot.

Hopefully they continue to focus on the usage of animatronics and great storytelling. Something Universal doesn't know how to do.

Yep, Disney is the masters at creating rides for the whole family. They don't need to pick you up and shake you around like the Incredible Hulk. They were creating boat rides and lifelike animatronics in the 50's and 60's. And their classic rides still hold up today, even the often lamented "It's a Small World".

I actually disagree completely. Having "rides for the whole family" means having more thrill rides. There are a ton of rides and things for little ones, there aren't for older folks, teens etc. And while you might think the classic rides like small world "Hold up" I'd say you are wrong, and I'd say the thin slice of crowd (usually because nothing else is available) that go to it, also demonstrate this.

I know a whole bunch of families who are "aging out" of Disney, because there isn't enough there their teenage kids want to do, they think a lot of the rides at WDW are lame, and they want more exciting thrill rides. You can also see Universal keep eating into WDW's market share, that also says a lot about who is really succeeding at attracting people. Heck, look at Pandora and how successful FoP is, a massive thrill ride, and it has certainly generated unseen hype for WDW compared to the last few years, including FL2's opening.

 

[circus4u]

Yep, Disney is the masters at creating rides for the whole family. They don't need to pick you up and shake you around like the Incredible Hulk. They were creating boat rides and lifelike animatronics in the 50's and 60's. And their classic rides still hold up today, even the often lamented "It's a Small World".

Have to say that I agree with you here. I don't think I have seen such long lines in Magic Kingdom as we saw the previous two weeks. 90 minute Stand-by wait for Small World, the holding areas outside Carousel of Progress were packed. Even Tiki Room had good sized lines waiting to get in. Two weeks there and we visited Magic Kingdom only 3 half days, did our Fast Passes and left. Definitely was demand for the classic rides like I haven't seen in years.

 

[Dfan79]

I actually disagree completely. Having "rides for the whole family" means having more thrill rides. There are a ton of rides and things for little ones, there aren't for older folks, teens etc. And while you might think the classic rides like small world "Hold up" I'd say you are wrong, and I'd say the thin slice of crowd (usually because nothing else is available) that go to it, also demonstrate this.

I know a whole bunch of families who are "aging out" of Disney, because there isn't enough there their teenage kids want to do, they think a lot of the rides at WDW are lame, and they want more exciting thrill rides. You can also see Universal keep eating into WDW's market share, that also says a lot about who is really succeeding at attracting people. Heck, look at Pandora and how successful FoP is, a massive thrill ride, and it has certainly generated unseen hype for WDW compared to the last few years, including FL2's opening.

You can disagree, if you want to, but the numbers show you're wrong. Magic Kingdom gets millions and millions more people than Universal or Six Flags, and Magic is made up of mostly dark rides and shows. Families go to Disney whether they have babies, kids, teenagers or baboons.

If people love thrill rides and shaky screen rides so much they can go to Universal Orlando. That's all they are mostly good at.

 

[maltdizzy]

The overwhelming popularity of EE, RnRC, ToT, TT, SM, BTMRR, definitely shows a few more e-ticket thrill rides can only help divvy up the crowds. It doesn't need to turn into Cedar Park or Six Flags, but there is plenty of demand of more thrills at WDW as well as more family attractions. There should be a good mix.

I can definitely see how teens age out of many of the WDW rides, my 10yo enjoys trips to WDW, but but seems to be tiring of re-riding the same thrill rides over and over again. We only go every 2-3 years but I can see a time when there just won't be enough options for him.

 

[umichigan10]

it's all about maintaining a balance. I'll be curious to see how thrilling the Star Wars rides are but I feel the more important thing is how well done they, and any ride is, overall

 

[DisFanDad]

You can disagree, if you want to, but the numbers show you're wrong. Magic Kingdom gets millions and millions more people than Universal or Six Flags, and Magic is made up of mostly dark rides and shows. Families go to Disney whether they have babies, kids, teenagers or baboons.

If people love thrill rides and shaky screen rides so much they can go to Universal Orlando. That's all they are mostly good at.

Then explain why Universal is seeing growing crowds and are taking market share away from Disney, while WDW is seeing Shrinking crowds and lower attendance. And also explain why the most popular rides, at WDW are the Thrill rides. Rockin Roller Coaster, Everest, Tower of Terror, Test Track, Soarin, Flight of Passage, Space Mountain, Big Thunder, Heck even 7DMT is sold as a roller coaster.

 

[umichigan10]

Then explain why Universal is seeing growing crowds and are taking market share away from Disney, while WDW is seeing Shrinking crowds and lower attendance. And also explain why the most popular rides, at WDW are the Thrill rides. Rockin Roller Coaster, Everest, Tower of Terror, Test Track, Soarin, Flight of Passage, Space Mountain, Big Thunder, Heck even 7DMT is sold as a roller coaster.

That also ignores the fact that Peter Pan, soarin, frozen ever after, which are tame rides in themselves, are also on that list.

I'm not saying thrill rides are bad; but there should be a good balance between thrill/family. I also think this market share thing is being talked about the wrong way. The study doesn't say that guests are going from Disney to universal; the fact is the market has grown and uni has opened a lot more stuff (hotels and parks) to be able to retain more people

 

[WDWFantasmicFan]

Then explain why Universal is seeing growing crowds and are taking market share away from Disney, while WDW is seeing Shrinking crowds and lower attendance. And also explain why the most popular rides, at WDW are the Thrill rides. Rockin Roller Coaster, Everest, Tower of Terror, Test Track, Soarin, Flight of Passage, Space Mountain, Big Thunder, Heck even 7DMT is sold as a roller coaster.

Universal's growing crowds are 75% due to Wizarding World. Yes, people are now visiting for Volcano Bay too, but take a look at the 2 most recent rides to open up at Universal Resort - Kong and Jimmy Fallon. They are both screen based rides and not ones i'd consider as thrill rides per-se. And Fast and Furious is going to be a screen based ride too.

Yes, a lot of the popular rides at WDW are thrill rides, but you are forgetting about some of the tamer rides such as Haunted Mansion, Peter Pan, Toy Story Mania, Frozen Ever After... They are all great rides which usually have a long wait and yet they are not thrill rides.

 

[Sweettears]

I actually disagree completely. Having "rides for the whole family" means having more thrill rides. There are a ton of rides and things for little ones, there aren't for older folks, teens etc. And while you might think the classic rides like small world "Hold up" I'd say you are wrong, and I'd say the thin slice of crowd (usually because nothing else is available) that go to it, also demonstrate this.

I know a whole bunch of families who are "aging out" of Disney, because there isn't enough there their teenage kids want to do, they think a lot of the rides at WDW are lame, and they want more exciting thrill rides. You can also see Universal keep eating into WDW's market share, that also says a lot about who is really succeeding at attracting people. Heck, look at Pandora and how successful FoP is, a massive thrill ride, and it has certainly generated unseen hype for WDW compared to the last few years, including FL2's opening.

Not sure that I agree with much of what you had to say. My kids started going to Disney when our oldest was 6 years old. She now is married with a grandson and is planning a trip in a couple of years to experience all of the magic in her memory. Disney transcends the "I'm too old for it " posturing in my opinion. I'll be 60 in a month or so and nothing has cahanged for me.

 

[rteetz]

Not sure that I agree with much of what you had to say. My kids started going to Disney when our oldest was 6 years old. She now is married with a grandson and is planning a trip in a couple of years to experience all of the magic in her memory. Disney transcends the "I'm too old for it " posturing in my opinion. I'll be 60 in a month or so and nothing has cahanged for me.

I started going to WDW when I was 8 months old. I have gone ever since and just took my first solo trip. I have become more into Disney in my teenage years.

 

[DisFanDad]

Not sure that I agree with much of what you had to say. My kids started going to Disney when our oldest was 6 years old. She now is married with a grandson and is planning a trip in a couple of years to experience all of the magic in her memory. Disney transcends the "I'm too old for it " posturing in my opinion. I'll be 60 in a month or so and nothing has cahanged for me.

She isn't a teenager.

 

[DisFanDad]

I started going to WDW when I was 8 months old. I have gone ever since and just took my first solo trip. I have become more into Disney in my teenage years.

You sir are an anomaly, one who I happen to like a whole bunch.

The fact that anyone would honestly debate which would be more appealing to most teenagers here only demonstrates how slanted this page is, as it is full of fans and people who love disney, as I do. I would bet every asset I have, that if you actually put proper research into it, Teens would pick Universal over WDW, hands down. Mind you, none of us have access to said data, nor are we going to hire a survey firm to do such.