Trial Run for Dogs in Resort Rooms

[Madame]

Respectfully that goes both ways. Someone bringing their dog with them on vacation gets to decide if that is good or bad for them with the new pet-friendly policy...you do not get to decide that for them.

With respect, I think the difference is the pro side is trying to convince the anti side that it won’t affect them or that they are exaggerating the effect.

The anti-side is trying to demonstrate that the possibility that this will affect them is already causing them stress & anxiety, never mind if their allergy/phobia is triggered on site. It’s a Disney trip. Everyone wants it to be as carefree as possible.

It’s as if we’re saying to someone with a malady “prove it’ll be that bad. Nah you’re exaggerating.” It feels like a personal attack. A lot of people (not me I’m more a cat person) are saying I love dogs, but I can’t be around them or my kid can’t be around them for a valid medical reason & the response is “you’re exaggerating. This is being blown out of proportion.”

When the response is to dismiss legitimate concerns, including those of someone with a guidedog that seemed to get skipped over (no one from the pro side addressed her concerns iirc) then the gap is unbridgeable.

 

[DisneyFive]

Basically they just seem to be grassy areas to which they have added a few poop cleanup bins. This is next to the outer wing of Acadian House (building 80) at Port Orleans Riverside:

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Andre

Having stayed at POR for 34 nights now, I can say that those poop boxes are a very unwelcome sight. I'm surprised they are so close to those rooms! Boy, what an attractive site as you are walking up to your resort door. A yummy dog poop container.

Dan

 

[GADisneyDad14]

I'm all for it. Just booked my trip in February w my 2 dogs. Can't wait.... I do, however, agree that Disney should have given more of a notice of the policy change.

Do you mind if I ask how/if the booking experience was any different booking with pets? I assume you called? What resort/room category? There are so few real-world experiences on this thread I hope you don’t mind the probing questions - really just curious how it went, if they gave you any new info, etc. Understand if you don’t want to answer. TIA!

 

[Oswald Is Back]

I have been a dog owner since I was a young child. Trust me when I tell you that it is stressful placing both of our dogs in the kennel while we are in Disney for the week. It is my personal opinion that those making critical statements about Disney's trial run are both selfish and misinformed. Lets face the facts; dogs create structure and added responsibilities for their owners. I have learned that some people are just too self absorbed and selfish to share their lives with a pet(s) that depend on the love and commitment of those willing to do so. I just don't understand how Disney's decision to allow dogs in certain resorts could create so much turmoil and discomfort for non-pet owners. Remember, Disney is supposed to be the happiest place on earth for everyone, and that includes our four legged companions. I think Walt would agree.

 

[Darbie]

You would have to admit germans follow the rules to the letter. They even put fill lines on glasses of beer to signify a serving. People at wdw will say I’m paying $50 for someone to clean up after my pet

They put lines on glasses to signify a pint for the pour.

 

[Madame]

I have been a dog owner since I was a young child. Trust me when I tell you that it is stressful placing both of our dogs in the kennel while we are in Disney for the week. It is my personal opinion that those making critical statements about Disney's trial run are both selfish and misinformed. Lets face the facts; dogs create structure and added responsibilities for their owners. I have learned that some people are just too self absorbed and selfish to share their lives with a pet(s) that depend on the love and commitment of those willing to do so. I just don't understand how Disney's decision to allow dogs in certain resorts could create so much turmoil and discomfort for non-pet owners. Remember, Disney is supposed to be the happiest place on earth for everyone, and that includes our four legged companions. I think Walt would agree.

A lot of people who are against this policy own dogs. Look more closely at those responding.

I do not think I am too selfish or self-absorbed to own a pet. I am adult enough to know that I have 3 children to provide for and that take up all my time, energy & money. I would love to have a cat again. I simply cannot.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

With respect, I think the difference is the pro side is trying to convince the anti side that it won’t affect them or that they are exaggerating the effect.

The anti-side is trying to demonstrate that the possibility that this will affect them is already causing them stress & anxiety, never mind if their allergy/phobia is triggered on site. It’s a Disney trip. Everyone wants it to be as carefree as possible.

It’s as if we’re saying to someone with a malady “prove it’ll be that bad. Nah you’re exaggerating.” It feels like a personal attack. A lot of people (not me I’m more a cat person) are saying I love dogs, but I can’t be around them or my kid can’t be around them for a valid medical reason & the response is “you’re exaggerating. This is being blown out of proportion.”

When the response is to dismiss legitimate concerns, including those of someone with a guidedog that seemed to get skipped over (no one from the pro side addressed her concerns iirc) then the gap is unbridgeable.

I agree with you to an extent. I have seen comments of "I'm just concerned about myself and not others" which rarely comes across well and I've seen comments of "you bringing your dog means you are sending a person to the hospital (paraphrasing)". which is horrible to tell someone that. I cannot even imagine telling that to a stranger who has done nothing wrong but brought their dog with them when the place allows it.

What I've seen a lot more is someone says "I'm for this because__" they are quoted and told this and that and none of is positive (aside from a few posters who are more on the "hey I'm good with this policy" side).

So yeah when someone says And everyone here has a right to decide for themselves what's bad or not bad.....You don't get to decide that for us. Well yeah the truth is that does go both ways. You don't get to tell people "don't bring your dog, why would you bring your dog, you're going to cause my family such stress, you're going to send someone to the hospital, etc" Because they do in fact get to decide for themselves if bringing their pet with them on vacation is good for them or not- you don't get to silence or attempt to silence either side. As I said in a prior comment those who have little or no issue with this new policy have their opinion trampled down in this particular thread.

Also for the most part I've seen posters attempt to say "hey let's see how this works before we decide it's the worst decision in the history of decisions and it's going to be x,y,z I just know it" (paraphrasing this). This is just my opinion but the majority of those comments have been respectful maybe even trying to bring some calm in but they are usually met with the same negative comments.

ETA: I should also say telling someone who just said they are glad of this new policy and that they will now consider this for the future is wrong for bringing their pet with them and all the various things that have been said can very much feel like a personal attack to that person who dared to share their opinion.

 

[Eveningsong]

Are there usually fences? I don't know how other hotels do it to be perfectly honest and I don't know if it would be comparable but I haven't seen a fence anywhere at parks that have these or apartment complexes that have these or anywhere else that allows dogs with the waste bag locations. This is just my experience however.

I don't know either, but I don't know to section off the area without fences, and or signage explaining it is the dog relief area. Just looks a dog feces disposal box on a pole located next to a walkway.

 

[Mom loves Disney]

Do you mind if I ask how/if the booking experience was any different booking with pets? I assume you called? What resort/room category? There are so few real-world experiences on this thread I hope you don’t mind the probing questions - really just curious how it went, if they gave you any new info, etc. Understand if you don’t want to answer. TIA!

I booked at Port Orleans with a garden view and dog friendly. The booking process was basically the same with the exception of the cm saying she had to fax the resort that we are bringing a dog.
Hope that answers your question

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I don't know either, but I don't know to section off the area without fences, and or signage explaining it is the dog relief area. Just looks a dog feces disposal box on a pole located next to a walkway.

To the bolded that's the way I've always seen it, just in my experience though.

 

[GADisneyDad14]

I booked at Port Orleans with a garden view and dog friendly. The booking process was basically the same with the exception of the cm saying she had to fax the resort that we are bringing a dog.
Hope that answers your question

Cool,

 

[croach]

With respect, I think the difference is the pro side is trying to convince the anti side that it won’t affect them or that they are exaggerating the effect.

The anti-side is trying to demonstrate that the possibility that this will affect them is already causing them stress & anxiety, never mind if their allergy/phobia is triggered on site. It’s a Disney trip. Everyone wants it to be as carefree as possible.

It’s as if we’re saying to someone with a malady “prove it’ll be that bad. Nah you’re exaggerating.” It feels like a personal attack. A lot of people (not me I’m more a cat person) are saying I love dogs, but I can’t be around them or my kid can’t be around them for a valid medical reason & the response is “you’re exaggerating. This is being blown out of proportion.”

When the response is to dismiss legitimate concerns, including those of someone with a guidedog that seemed to get skipped over (no one from the pro side addressed her concerns iirc) then the gap is unbridgeable.

I think what you've left out is the majority of the anti don't want this because they think it will ruin their vacation. No other reason than that. They dont even want to consider giving it a chance. And that's their right.

They're are also a lot of people voicing concerns about allergies and those concerns shouldn't be mocked. I do think Disney should consider having designated buildings or even an entire resort for this and make those buildings known to the public so people with allergies can be aware of them.

 

[Disneylover99]

I have been a dog owner since I was a young child. Trust me when I tell you that it is stressful placing both of our dogs in the kennel while we are in Disney for the week. It is my personal opinion that those making critical statements about Disney's trial run are both selfish and misinformed. Lets face the facts; dogs create structure and added responsibilities for their owners. I have learned that some people are just too self absorbed and selfish to share their lives with a pet(s) that depend on the love and commitment of those willing to do so. I just don't understand how Disney's decision to allow dogs in certain resorts could create so much turmoil and discomfort for non-pet owners. Remember, Disney is supposed to be the happiest place on earth for everyone, and that includes our four legged companions. I think Walt would agree.

Read the thread.

 

[Jason2015]

With respect, I think the difference is the pro side is trying to convince the anti side that it won’t affect them or that they are exaggerating the effect.

The anti-side is trying to demonstrate that the possibility that this will affect them is already causing them stress & anxiety, never mind if their allergy/phobia is triggered on site. It’s a Disney trip. Everyone wants it to be as carefree as possible.

It’s as if we’re saying to someone with a malady “prove it’ll be that bad. Nah you’re exaggerating.” It feels like a personal attack. A lot of people (not me I’m more a cat person) are saying I love dogs, but I can’t be around them or my kid can’t be around them for a valid medical reason & the response is “you’re exaggerating. This is being blown out of proportion.”

When the response is to dismiss legitimate concerns, including those of someone with a guidedog that seemed to get skipped over (no one from the pro side addressed her concerns iirc) then the gap is unbridgeable.

I think those on the "pro" side are objecting to the hyperbole being used about dog attacks, barking dogs at 2pm or 2am, irresponsible pet owners in every room, etc. People are claiming that Disney is purposely ruining their vacation-or is willfully taken something away from them-in a spiteful manner.

Yes there are legitimate concerns, but just like anything else Disney works to mitigate those concerns. The point is people with allergies and other special needs have great days at Disney everyday. If you have a concern about an animal let Disney know and they will accommodate as best as possible. There has been a lot of fear mongering from the "anti" side.

Just pull back on the hyperbole, allow the situation to play out, and then pass judgment. Disney is in the business to make customers happy because happy customers spend money. Yet, every decision will have detractors, people unhappy that their favorite show is gone, their favorite ride closed, etc. However the masses still come and Disney still does it's best to make happy customers.

 

[Erin1700]

Heather from WDW called me today, because I had emailed many Disney contacts about my concerns.
At first, she clearly was reading from a script, then we started having a real conversation.
I told her I could manage if the YC dogs stayed on YC property (we stay at Boardwalk. Leaving in 25 days). But my DS10 who has anxiety issues, including a fear of dogs, should be able to enjoy the walkways to Disney Studios and Epcot, as well as the Boardwalk without coming into contact with the dogs.
My exact words to her were "Have you seen a happy 10 year old skipping and walking 5 feet in front of their family as they go to the Bakery to fill their mugs, or walk to Disney Studios? And that kid is just full of pure joy and excitement, not a care in the world! So tell me, do we now have to worry about him seeing all of these dogs walking on those paths or must the dogs remain on YC property?"

She started to tell me they had to stay on YC property, then reminded me about the boat to the parks, which dogs can not go on. And I had to tell her that the reason we stay at Boardwalk is so that same little boy who is allergic to peanuts doesn't have to ride transportation everywhere. We can walk to 2 parks! We see a lot of peanut butter on buses and boats. She said she would pass these specific concerns on to leaders. I don't know if she will or not, but I know she spoke to me like a person and not like she was script reading.
Does anyone know if they typically call guests who email them? I know a bunch on here have gotten a call too. Is this typical?

 

[Madame]

I agree with you to an extent. I have seen comments of "I'm just concerned about myself and not others" which rarely comes across well and I've seen comments of "you bringing your dog means you are sending a person to the hospital (paraphrasing)". which is horrible to tell someone that. I cannot even imagine telling that to a stranger who has done nothing wrong but brought their dog with them when the place allows it.

What I've seen a lot more is someone says "I'm for this because__" they are quoted and told this and that and none of is positive (aside from a few posters who are more on the "hey I'm good with this policy" side).

So yeah when someone says And everyone here has a right to decide for themselves what's bad or not bad.....You don't get to decide that for us. Well yeah the truth is that does go both ways. You don't get to tell people "don't bring your dog, why would you bring your dog, you're going to cause my family such stress, you're going to send someone to the hospital, etc" Because they do in fact get to decide for themselves if bringing their pet with them on vacation is good for them or not- you don't get to silence or attempt to silence either side. As I said in a prior comment those who have little or no issue with this new policy have their opinion trampled down in this particular thread.

Also for the most part I've seen posters attempt to say "hey let's see how this works before we decide it's the worst decision in the history of decisions and it's going to be x,y,z I just know it" (paraphrasing this). This is just my opinion but the majority of those comments have been respectful maybe even trying to bring some calm in but they are usually met with the same negative comments.

Yes extremes on either side are counter-productive. People (all people) are almost conditioned to ignore that which doesn’t directly affect them. I have been posting over & over b/c most families are not 5 & it is easy to overlook their point of view.

Neither of these groups are your average Disney visitor we could say. And honestly? Why be angry at each other. Disney made this situation untenable.

The surprise to begin with. & they are either incompetent (believable) or they did this knowing they might upset families of 5 & PoR fans in particular. It was crappy & pitted 2 groups against one another & if they had their eye on their customer base (especially those who rave about how Dis takes care of those with allergies) this should not have happened.

 

[Madame]

I think what you've left out is the majority of the anti don't want this because they think it will ruin their vacation. No other reason than that. They dont even want to consider giving it a chance. And that's their right.

They're are also a lot of people voicing concerns about allergies and those concerns shouldn't be mocked. I do think Disney should consider having designated buildings or even an entire resort for this and make those buildings known to the public so people with allergies can be aware of them.

I agree completely. They need to choose 1-2 resorts & make them dog friendly & keep it at that. If they find it catches on build a dog-centred resort. The execution here was tone-deaf.

 

[KarenP64]

Disney keeps making it more & more difficult to plan a fun trip. I won't go into all those issues over the years, but what gets me now is that they gave no notice/warning they were doing this & have now possibly ruined families plans that they've saved for & worked so hard for. So, if they do this, how can we trust them to make any future plans? People say to avoid the dog friendly resorts, but if it comes April with Free Dining, how do I know that if I book CBR or CSR for the following December that they won't come up at the last minute & say all resorts are dog friendly? I can't trust they will ever put the customer first again. AND their greed really doesn't make me want to give them any more of our thousands of dollars.

 

[superdisneyfan]

My biggest concern (and I own two pembroke welsh corgis; love all dogs) is that idiot dog owners won't follow the rules, and, won't clean up after their dogs.

I love dogs, and have no problem with trained service dogs, but there are always some owners who don't follow rules when they think no one is looking. When I'm walking around in a resort, I don't want to be watching every second where I step like I must do in the city. Also, the rules state that Disney would address dog barking issues within 30 minutes, but who wants to complain on a neighbor while on vacation...takes the magic away. Lastly, has Disney considered that there may be an increase in lawsuits since it seems that they already get alot of frivolous ones? Is Disney experimenting with this to make dog owners happy OR is the real reason to open up another revenue stream for merchandise and dog services branded with the Disney name?

 

[Auntie_Maim]

I predict a lot of calls to local Animal Control when dogs keep barking past the 30-minute mark. I know I'd have the number in my contacts list.