News Round Up 2017

[jknezek]

Please, rest assured I understand the illusion...what I don't believe in is the suspension of COMMON sense for fantasy...the two can and should be mutually exclusive.

Common sense and fantasy don't belong together. By definition you at least lower your common sense to enjoy fantasy or you can't. Disney allows you to live a fantasy, at a price that tends to defy common sense. The more you want to immerse yourself in the fantsay, the more it will cost.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I think both of these have an element of escapism to them.

I agree that there’s a breaking point where the money spent even for an escape experience such as Disney becomes ridiculous (200 dollar rooms at pop for example). But I don’t think it’s really that ridiculous a justification that a lukewarm meal inside the castle isn’t a justifiable expense in a place like Disney

I am willing to anger my stomach and my wallet...but not at the same time.

Then it's 2 against 1

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Common sense and fantasy don't belong together. By definition you at least lower your common sense to enjoy fantasy or you can't. Disney allows you to live a fantasy, at a price that tends to defy common sense. The more you want to immerse yourself in the fantsay, the more it will cost.

Ahhh...but I don't think one need be immature or silly to enjoy escapism. One can escape (fantasy is something that involves drool on your pillow) while setting reasonable boundaries where instinct still kicks in.

 

[skier_pete]

Rumor

Update the the rumor earlier. Flights of wonder will close but the birds will stay and be part of a new version of the show.

That's different. Then the show isn't really closing, just being updated, and that's just fine.

 

[skier_pete]

Fell bad for LOLa kids....

"Dad, I really want to eat in the castle."
"It's fake and made of fiberglass. And overpriced and the food sucks. Eat your bagel."

The castle has been overpriced and the food has sucked literally for as long as it's been open. You are paying a premium to eat in the castle with princesses. And honestly the foods not bad though i admit we haven't eaten there in 5 years.

 

[jlundeen]

Fell bad for LOLa kids....

"Dad, I really want to eat in the castle."
"It's fake and made of fiberglass. And overpriced and the food sucks. Eat your bagel."

The castle has been overpriced and the food has sucked literally for as long as it's been open. You are paying a premium to eat in the castle with princesses. And honestly the foods not bad though i admit we haven't eaten there in 5 years.

We didn't HATE the food in the castle the last time, just the fact that we couldn't have a glass of wine with our $100 meal....Coke and steak just doesn't do it for me.....

 

[TheMaxRebo]

...just when I was gonna label slap you with a "down to earth" label...

It's fiberglass and concrete with smoking lounges below it...

Well, yeah - but then you can say all of WDW is fake so why even go? Just watch a movie at home

Why is this "fake" no good but other "fake" is worth you time?

 

[TheMaxRebo]

We didn't HATE the food in the castle the last time, just the fact that we couldn't have a glass of wine with our $100 meal....Coke and steak just doesn't do it for me.....

Well, now you can have wine there!

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Fell bad for LOLa kids....

"Dad, I really want to eat in the castle."
"It's fake and made of fiberglass. And overpriced and the food sucks. Eat your bagel."

The castle has been overpriced and the food has sucked literally for as long as it's been open. You are paying a premium to eat in the castle with princesses. And honestly the foods not bad though i admit we haven't eaten there in 5 years.

Like I said, we have only done breakfast but we thought the food was pretty good - and cool mobbed with the look on my kids face when they learned they were going to eat in the castle was totally worth it

Now that we have done it not sure if/when we will do it again but for that once at least it was good

 

[jlundeen]

Well, now you can have wine there!

YAY!!!!

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Well, yeah - but then you can say all of WDW is fake so why even go? Just watch a movie at home

Why is this "fake" no good but other "fake" is worth you time?

Fake is good within reason...

Calling at 7 am 180 days out, a $250 getup at bibbidi, and cold eggs For $200 a table?

...stretching the boundaries of adult reasoning...I'm sure it's just me

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Fell bad for LOLa kids....

"Dad, I really want to eat in the castle."
"It's fake and made of fiberglass. And overpriced and the food sucks. Eat your bagel."

The castle has been overpriced and the food has sucked literally for as long as it's been open. You are paying a premium to eat in the castle with princesses. And honestly the foods not bad though i admit we haven't eaten there in 5 years.

First...the bagel is the most overrated food in history...

And second, my wife took my daughter once to do the cutesy thing...I think she was 3...while my son and I went to tusker house...

Got a call talking about how pointless it was/a waste. Got the same call from Norway a year earlier.

The princess meals are really just silly. But...we are gonna go to the one at boardwalk this year...I do try these things...

I ask the kids where they want to go and we will go to one or so per trip...

The answers are ALWAYS the same:
Park Fare
Crystal Palace
Tusker House
Garden Grill

...now...what do all those places have in common?

 

[Capang]

First...the bagel is the most overrated food in history...

And second, my wife took my daughter once to do the cutesy thing...I think she was 3...while my son and I went to tusker house...

Got a call talking about how pointless it was/a waste. Got the same call from Norway a year earlier.

The princess meals are really just silly. But...we are gonna go to the one at boardwalk this year...I do try these things...

I ask the kids where they want to go and we will go to one or so per trip...

The answers are ALWAYS the same:
Park Fare
Crystal Palace
Tusker House
Garden Grill

...now...what do all those places have in common?

The boardwalk one is actually one of the best character meals we have done. We did it a few weeks back and the food was surprisingly good, the price was waaaay less than crt or Akershus and it was actually fun even for the adults. Hope you and your family get at least a little enjoyment out of it.

 

[amberpi]

First...the bagel is the most overrated food in history...

You're dead to me, lol. (bagel and lox with a light schmear is the most perfect breakfast ever)

My dad was totally the dad who looked behind the curtain and explained how everything was done, from magic tricks in Vegas to how Snow White was still the same age as in the movie, etc. It increased the magic for me because it was so cool to know how it was all done.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

You're dead to me, lol. (bagel and lox with a light schmear is the most perfect breakfast ever)

My dad was totally the dad who looked behind the curtain and explained how everything was done, from magic tricks in Vegas to how Snow White was still the same age as in the movie, etc. It increased the magic for me because it was so cool to know how it was all done.

One of my refrains is that it's the design that's what makes it one of a kind...the Brain power that went into it.

I love the fantasy from the child's perspective...but when someone is 40 with more kids than are necessary...I have limited tolerance for immaturity. You can escape and have fun without being a fool 365 days a year...limiting it to 7 seems a reasonable request...

...but I'm harsh

 

[Pete M]

You're dead to me, lol. (bagel and lox with a light schmear is the most perfect breakfast ever)

My dad was totally the dad who looked behind the curtain and explained how everything was done, from magic tricks in Vegas to how Snow White was still the same age as in the movie, etc. It increased the magic for me because it was so cool to know how it was all done.

gotta go with amber on this one, a great bagel (they are by far not all created equal) is simply to die for.

it's possible I'm in the minority, but Disney's fake stuff (and how they pull it off) usually impresses me more than if it was real. guess it's the engineer in me. They hire some incredibly skilled fiberglass and concrete guys and I frequently enjoy the queue/scenery more than the ride/food. Heck, the best part of FoP for me was looking to the side and watching the all the people bouncing up and down in perfect unison.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

gotta go with amber on this one, a great bagel (they are by far not all created equal) is simply to die for.

it's possible I'm in the minority, but Disney's fake stuff (and how they pull it off) usually impresses me more than if it was real. guess it's the engineer in me. They hire some incredibly skilled fiberglass and concrete guys and I frequently enjoy the queue/scenery more than the ride/food. Heck, the best part of FoP for me was looking to the side and watching the all the people bouncing up and down in perfect unison.

I completely agree with you...

...except about the bagels - at least cheap ones - doughy, bland and 1000 useless calories

 

[TheMaxRebo]

One of my refrains is that it's the design that's what makes it one of a kind...the Brain power that went into it.

I love the fantasy from the child's perspective...but when someone is 40 with more kids than are necessary...I have limited tolerance for immaturity. You can escape and have fun without being a fool 365 days a year...limiting it to 7 seems a reasonable request...

...but I'm harsh

Not to take this even further off topic but who exactly gets to decide how many kids are necessary?

 

[amberpi]

One of my refrains is that it's the design that's what makes it one of a kind...the Brain power that went into it.

I love the fantasy from the child's perspective...but when someone is 40 with more kids than are necessary...I have limited tolerance for immaturity. You can escape and have fun without being a fool 365 days a year...limiting it to 7 seems a reasonable request...

...but I'm harsh

Is there a necessary number of kids for WDW? If so, the WDW police are going to upset with me so often running afoul of the law.

I'm so glad WDW owns SW, I can't wait to see what they do with it, but I hope I don't have my expectations set too high. I would love to see a "making of SWL" type of ... well, anything really.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

gotta go with amber on this one, a great bagel (they are by far not all created equal) is simply to die for.

it's possible I'm in the minority, but Disney's fake stuff (and how they pull it off) usually impresses me more than if it was real. guess it's the engineer in me. They hire some incredibly skilled fiberglass and concrete guys and I frequently enjoy the queue/scenery more than the ride/food. Heck, the best part of FoP for me was looking to the side and watching the all the people bouncing up and down in perfect unison.

I think I like both - also an engineer and I love seeing how the rides and everything is done. I loved the attraction models they had in One Man's Dream for example ..... but I also just letting go for a bit and being in the moment and not thinking of bills and staff meetings, etc

As for FoP, I rode it twice - first time I looked back to take a look at the mechanics but the second time I just stayed facing forward and stayed immersed. Enjoyed it both times but I think the second was even better just with how good that ride is