ROFR Thread April to June 2023 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

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IMO we are at a sort of standstill with buyers and sellers at the moment. Buyers are looking for the best price and sellers do not want to drop their prices. Offered a low bid (no lower than what others have had accepted on this thread) on an Aulani contract that has been on the market for 9 months, sellers came back and declined to counter because we were too far apart. It will be interesting in the next few months to see what will happen.
 
I don’t know how low prices will go but I suspect a lot of us on this thread are going to do our best to find out! I promised myself I wouldn’t buy more points until our current ROFR contract closes, but I ended up making an offer for Poly points at $120 today and if they accept it, I will happily take them.
I'm watching with interest. I didn't have the cahonas to go that low, but wanted to pay a lot less than our favourite broker employee paid!

The lowest PVB prices (offered) seem to have been fixed, and still outstanding, at 142/144 for weeks now, so it certainly feels like a standoff between buyers and sellers. I hope that you have found someone to deal.
 
I just got the fake out email from fidelity that we are still waiting….
I guess it’s a good thing that they keep us updated but I got excised for a hot second. 😂

Hi there, we are still waiting to hear back on the Right of First Refusal request for your file that was sent to Disney Vacation Club on: 4/25/2023.
It generally takes approximately 30 to 45 days for Disney Vacation Club to deliver their notification, so we are about halfway there!

Sit tight, we will let you know as soon as we receive the ROFR notification.
We got the same one yesterday!! Hopefully soon we will get the one that it passed!
 
IMO we are at a sort of standstill with buyers and sellers at the moment. Buyers are looking for the best price and sellers do not want to drop their prices. Offered a low bid (no lower than what others have had accepted on this thread) on an Aulani contract that has been on the market for 9 months, sellers came back and declined to counter because we were too far apart. It will be interesting in the next few months to see what will happen.
I've been watching the market for a couple months now and it does feel like prices have reached a bottom.
 
I just got the fake out email from fidelity that we are still waiting….
I guess it’s a good thing that they keep us updated but I got excised for a hot second. 😂

Hi there, we are still waiting to hear back on the Right of First Refusal request for your file that was sent to Disney Vacation Club on: 4/25/2023.
It generally takes approximately 30 to 45 days for Disney Vacation Club to deliver their notification, so we are about halfway there!

Sit tight, we will let you know as soon as we receive the ROFR notification.
You're very close!! I got that same email about one week before we passed! So let's hope you'll hear it back around this time next week! 🤞 I think 3-weeks turnaround has been the average for most that were submitted in April.
 
Could the seller not make a booking in the purchasers name before they expire? I appreciate that may delay closing but it would be better than wasted points.
Yeah true that's definitely one way to save the points. It's just so sad to see any points going buh bye! 😿
 
Could the seller not make a booking in the purchasers name before they expire? I appreciate that may delay closing but it would be better than wasted points.
Yeah true that's definitely one way to save the points. It's just so sad to see any points going buh bye! 😿
Correct me if I am wrong, but there can be no outstanding reservations on the account when the deed is transferred. I believe the only exception is a gratuitous transfer. That's why you have listings that can't close until a certain date.
 
Correct me if I am wrong, but there can be no outstanding reservations on the account when the deed is transferred. I believe the only exception is a gratuitous transfer. That's why you have listings that can't close until a certain date.
You're correct. But basically what the seller could have done is make a resy for the buyer (exactly like renting points), the buyer goes on that vacation first, then they close out after. That could work, I think? That could easily be part of the negotiation too if the seller wants a little something back, since dues were all paid for.
 
IMO we are at a sort of standstill with buyers and sellers at the moment. Buyers are looking for the best price and sellers do not want to drop their prices. Offered a low bid (no lower than what others have had accepted on this thread) on an Aulani contract that has been on the market for 9 months, sellers came back and declined to counter because we were too far apart. It will be interesting in the next few months to see what will happen.
the new theme for resales "too far apart" i have been hearing this over and over again.
 
Correct me if I am wrong, but there can be no outstanding reservations on the account when the deed is transferred. I believe the only exception is a gratuitous transfer. That's why you have listings that can't close until a certain date.
Correct.
You're correct. But basically what the seller could have done is make a resy for the buyer (exactly like renting points), the buyer goes on that vacation first, then they close out after. That could work, I think? That could easily be part of the negotiation too if the seller wants a little something back, since dues were all paid for.
That would take some serious trust. The "buyer" would have to pay the seller for the rental points in a separate transaction, take the vacation, then the actual sales price would need to reflect that. The closing couldn't even start until after the buyer had already taken the trip. Otherwise, you're giving someone what is basically a free vacation pending the close of the sale.
 
Could the seller not make a booking in the purchasers name before they expire? I appreciate that may delay closing but it would be better than wasted points.

The seller would be able to do it, but I can't imagine any seller deciding to delay a closing and have to wait for payment....I know as a seller, I would not.
 
Correct.

That would take some serious trust. The "buyer" would have to pay the seller for the rental points in a separate transaction, take the vacation, then the actual sales price would need to reflect that. The closing couldn't even start until after the buyer had already taken the trip. Otherwise, you're giving someone what is basically a free vacation pending the close of the sale.
You're right, but as we all know, anything is negotiable. It's just a possibility that can make it into a deal, but is it favorable to the seller? Like you said, not really. It also depends if the seller has urgency to close out. From personal experience on making negotiation in a different industry, you can get "creative" on deals, just the matter if both sides would agree.
 
the new theme for resales "too far apart" i have been hearing this over and over again.

I offered on a small 30 point SSR contract a few weeks ago. It was listed at $135 and I offered $90 with split dues. I left a little wiggle for negotiating. The contract was a UY with 0 2022 points and 9 2023 points. The seller was willing to come down to $128. Now, I know small contracts sell for a premium, but there is no way I going to come anywhere close to their counter, so I walked away. Was not worth at that point to me. I bought VDH direct right away instead of waiting. I need about 30-40 more SAP points in my December UY and then should be really good.
 
I offered on a small 30 point SSR contract a few weeks ago. It was listed at $135 and I offered $90 with split dues. I left a little wiggle for negotiating. The contract was a UY with 0 2022 points and 9 2023 points. The seller was willing to come down to $128. Now, I know small contracts sell for a premium, but there is no way I going to come anywhere close to their counter, so I walked away. Was not worth at that point to me. I bought VDH direct right away instead of waiting. I need about 30-40 more SAP points in my December UY and then should be really good.
Despite your wiggle room, I think it might have been unrealistic to expect the seller to reduce his price by $45 on a 30 point contract, even though it’s stripped.
 
I offered on a small 30 point SSR contract a few weeks ago. It was listed at $135 and I offered $90 with split dues. I left a little wiggle for negotiating. The contract was a UY with 0 2022 points and 9 2023 points. The seller was willing to come down to $128. Now, I know small contracts sell for a premium, but there is no way I going to come anywhere close to their counter, so I walked away. Was not worth at that point to me. I bought VDH direct right away instead of waiting. I need about 30-40 more SAP points in my December UY and then should be really good.
I am surprised by the audacity of the ask on some of the stripped contracts I’ve seen lately (especially on the shorter remaining contract lengths— they have zero points in ‘23 and ‘24 and are listing well above where “fully loaded” contracts are selling)— I guess maybe some people will buy, but you do start getting closer to the math for buying direct, especially if you’re still in your ‘22 membership year.
 
Why would it be unrealistic? Loaded SSR contracts are selling under $90, what’s realistic about expecting a stripped contract to go much above it?
What might be unrealistic are the sellers expectations. There are some contracts that just from looking at them I wouldn’t offer on, because I can only assume the seller knows I can get a better deal by going direct and they just don’t care about that for whatever reason - be it outstanding loan on the product, not seriously interested in selling, or whatever else.
 
I just got the fake out email from fidelity that we are still waiting….
I guess it’s a good thing that they keep us updated but I got excised for a hot second. 😂

Hi there, we are still waiting to hear back on the Right of First Refusal request for your file that was sent to Disney Vacation Club on: 4/25/2023.
It generally takes approximately 30 to 45 days for Disney Vacation Club to deliver their notification, so we are about halfway there!

Sit tight, we will let you know as soon as we receive the ROFR notification.
Got the same email
 
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