75 employees laid off at Pixar, including the director of Lightyear

[Smugpugmug]

Was also rated PG-13.

RIght. You can still take kids to see it but the movie was not made with a kid audience in mind. When I saw it, my theater was 99% teens and adults except for one family with very young kids.

 

[BrightMorningStar]

People on this forum can keep ignoring this because they don’t understand what was bringing in the money.

I am starting to see that ignoring it is less about understanding how a company's bottom line works and more about having heads in the sand and refusing to accept the realities of what is happening. This is not just Disney. People see and believe what they want. And when you have a lot of bias and suppression in media, we only hear what those at the top want us to hear. Generally speaking, people will believe the 90% that parrot one another over the 10% that are doing truthful reporting and call them "fake" because they are not part of the echo chamber....and because the 10% are saying the things they do not want to hear.

 

[nancipants]

Honestly not even sure what you expected from the Barbie movie, let alone a movie from Greta Gerwig given her other films. Movie is still the biggest hit of the year and deservedly so lol

My husband and I were planning to go on Tuesday when our theatre does $6 tickets. Every showing was already sold out.

But yeah, very disappointing. Personally I was going to wait for streaming but then I saw all the rants about Barbie being too woke.

 

[Smugpugmug]

My husband and I were planning to go on Tuesday when our theatre does $6 tickets. Every showing was already sold out.

But yeah, very disappointing. Personally I was going to wait for streaming but then I saw all the rants about Barbie being too woke.

Same here - every theater near me has sold out showings for the next week. I wanted to see it again with other family members but guess I'll have to wait a little bit.

A lot of the complaints are so frustrating because you can tell that they're from people that 1. Didn't watch the movie 2. Didn't understand what it was trying to say

Judging the box office numbers only, it seems like most people don't care and just enjoy seeing a fun summer movie.

 

[Douglas Dubh]

Didn't understand what it was trying to say.

What do you think it’s trying to say?

 

[Disney Bobby]

Yeayuh, xplanee pleez. No understood complukated messuge furm Barbie muvie. lol

Why all doze mens try put her in box? Wut dey mean "beach off". l sew cunfuzed. Wut in da wurld dey sayin? lol

 

[mdmost]

What do you think it’s trying to say?

Is this where we tell you to do the research, like you do when someone asks you to explain your declarative posts?

 

[Douglas Dubh]

Is this where we tell you to do the research, like you do when someone asks you to explain your declarative posts?

No because I asked for personal opinion, not a doctoral thesis.

 

[Sparrow'sLady]

I am starting to see that ignoring it is less about understanding how a company's bottom line works and more about having heads in the sand and refusing to accept the realities of what is happening. This is not just Disney. People see and believe what they want. And when you have a lot of bias and suppression in media, we only hear what those at the top want us to hear. Generally speaking, people will believe the 90% that parrot one another over the 10% that are doing truthful reporting and call them "fake" because they are not part of the echo chamber....and because the 10% are saying the things they do not want to hear.

Spot-on!

 

[Disney Bobby]

The real message about Barbie is bigger than this latest, intellectually lazy cash grab that is nothing more than the same recycled whine-fest that we've seen a million times, just wrapped in pink and attached to a kid's toy. Barbie is just doing what Barbie has always done best, going all the way back to her time in Germany.

 

[jkh36619]

Barbie, Oppenheimer and Sound of Freedom are showing Disney they have problems. People still go to movies. I think Wish will do well and I'm baffled at Haunted Mansion's release date. I would have shot for late September or Early October. I don't have much faith in HM having a successful box office run but I think it could have reoccurring success as a holiday classic.

 

[mdmost]

Barbie, Oppenheimer and Sound of Freedom are showing Disney they have problems. People still go to movies. I think Wish will do well and I'm baffled at Haunted Mansion's release date. I would have shot for late September or Early October. I don't have much faith in HM having a successful box office run but I think it could have reoccurring success as a holiday classic.

I don't understand it either. I weirdly feel they know it won't do well so they can release it now, say it got lost in the shuffle of the summer season, and then have it ready to go on Disney+ for the appropriate time it should've been released. Almost like it's being released to feed a content hole on Disney+.

I would argue though you're dealing with movies that have star power built on an existing long running, iconic franchise (Barbie), a big time director who makes appointment viewing films, and a movie that appears to fill a demo that's being overlooked. I will say WB/Mattel did a much better job of marketing Barbie to look interesting to the average movie-goer. Disney has a huge problem with making compelling marketing.

 

[BrianL]

I don't understand it either. I weirdly feel they know it won't do well so they can release it now, say it got lost in the shuffle of the summer season, and then have it ready to go on Disney+ for the appropriate time it should've been released. Almost like it's being released to feed a content hole on Disney+.

I would argue though you're dealing with movies that have star power built on an existing long running, iconic franchise (Barbie), a big time director who makes appointment viewing films, and a movie that appears to fill a demo that's being overlooked. I will say WB/Mattel did a much better job of marketing Barbie to look interesting to the average movie-goer. Disney has a huge problem with making compelling marketing.

Yeah, Disney marketing lately has been really bad. They just can't seem to really convey what the movies are about. Those of us who are big Dis-fans can understand it for the most part, but they lack a hook for the general audiences.

 

[Smugpugmug]

I don't understand it either. I weirdly feel they know it won't do well so they can release it now, say it got lost in the shuffle of the summer season, and then have it ready to go on Disney+ for the appropriate time it should've been released. Almost like it's being released to feed a content hole on Disney+.

I would argue though you're dealing with movies that have star power built on an existing long running, iconic franchise (Barbie), a big time director who makes appointment viewing films, and a movie that appears to fill a demo that's being overlooked. I will say WB/Mattel did a much better job of marketing Barbie to look interesting to the average movie-goer. Disney has a huge problem with making compelling marketing.

I haven't been seeing any hype for Haunted Mansion. The first time I saw the trailer was during the previews for Barbie. It didn't look too bad. If it gets decent reviews, I may check it out. It's not getting a very good ad campaign though. I think Disney should know by now that their movies need ad campaigns to be successful nowadays.

I also think releasing it this close to the Barbenheimer phenomenon wasn't the smartest decision. This should've been pushed back to September. Maybe not October as it would've had to compete with Five Nights at Freddy's (which despite the content of the games does have a sizeable kid to teenaged audience).

 

[BrianL]

I haven't been seeing any hype for Haunted Mansion. The first time I saw the trailer was during the previews for Barbie. It didn't look too bad. If it gets decent reviews, I may check it out. It's not getting a very good ad campaign though. I think Disney should know by now that their movies need ad campaigns to be successful nowadays.

I also think releasing it this close to the Barbenheimer phenomenon wasn't the smartest decision. This should've been pushed back to September. Maybe not October as it would've had to compete with Five Nights at Freddy's (which despite the content of the games does have a sizeable kid to teenaged audience).

See, and I feel like they've done better with HM as I have seen a lot for it, like the co-branded State Farm commercials. It feels like it has more juice than a lot of their recent releases did.

 

[Smugpugmug]

See, and I feel like they've done better with HM as I have seen a lot for it, like the co-branded State Farm commercials. It feels like it has more juice than a lot of their recent releases did.

I agree that it's better but not by much. I fear that Disney is making the same mistake they made back in the day with Hocus Pocus, another Halloween movie that was released in July and bombed HARD. It only became popular when it was released on VHS and begun to play on Disney Channel every October.

 

[bryaalre]

I haven't been seeing any hype for Haunted Mansion. The first time I saw the trailer was during the previews for Barbie. It didn't look too bad. If it gets decent reviews, I may check it out. It's not getting a very good ad campaign though. I think Disney should know by now that their movies need ad campaigns to be successful nowadays.

I also think releasing it this close to the Barbenheimer phenomenon wasn't the smartest decision. This should've been pushed back to September. Maybe not October as it would've had to compete with Five Nights at Freddy's (which despite the content of the games does have a sizeable kid to teenaged audience).

I don't believe anyone in the industry thought Barbie would be this big. If they had, Mission Impossible would never have opened the week prior. Sometimes it's hard to guess what something will do. I don't think October would work cause it would get crushed by the November films. Unless they released at the beginning of September but it would deal with schools back in session and a traditionally bad time for movies to open.

The current tracking suggests something like $4-5M previews and a $35M-$40M opening weekend. Not terrible but for a $150M movie, not lovely. It would appear Jungle Cruise numbers are likely. I think the movie was always going to live or die by word of mouth and we will get reviews tomorrow when the embargo drops.

 

[Smugpugmug]

I don't believe anyone in the industry thought Barbie would be this big. If they had, Mission Impossible would never have opened the week prior. Sometimes it's hard to guess what something will do. I don't think October would work cause it would get crushed by the November films. Unless they released at the beginning of September but it would deal with schools back in session and a traditionally bad time for movies to open.

The current tracking suggests something like $4-5M previews and a $35M-$40M opening weekend. Not terrible but for a $150M movie, not lovely. It would appear Jungle Cruise numbers are likely. I think the movie was always going to live or die by word of mouth and we will get reviews tomorrow when the embargo drops.

Hold on.....Haunted Mansion cost $5 million more to make than Barbie? All I have to say to that is wow...

That Jungle Cruise movie was pretty forgettable but inoffensive. That might be the best case scenario for Haunted Mansion vs. it flopping.

 

[bryaalre]

Hold on.....Haunted Mansion cost $5 million more to make than Barbie? All I have to say to that is wow...

That Jungle Cruise movie was pretty forgettable but inoffensive. That might be the best case scenario for Haunted Mansion vs. it flopping.

Disney and not controlling budgets seems to be normal nowadays.

I will say that it is at least $50M cheaper than Jungle Cruise, so that's good i guess.

 

[mdmost]

Hold on.....Haunted Mansion cost $5 million more to make than Barbie? All I have to say to that is wow...

That Jungle Cruise movie was pretty forgettable but inoffensive. That might be the best case scenario for Haunted Mansion vs. it flopping.

Lot of CGI in Haunted Mansion. I feel like Greta Gerwig did WB a solid by designing a movie built around sets, practical effects, and painted backgrounds. Might've helped keep costs under control. Watched a video where she said she had a lot of influences from the 40s to 50s era Hollywood and it really shows.

Wasn't Jungle Cruise released in the not so great Covid times? I know we watched it at a drive-in for that reason.