Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[yankeesfan123]

FWIW

Christmas party tickets and dates were just released this morning.

I highly doubt Disney would do this unless they know they will be in full swing by Holiday Time.

Well, they’re allowing resort bookings for 6/1, yet told CP not to show up to work on 6/1...

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

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Looks like Vegas casinos are really eyeing a 5/1 opening. These are two separate corporations, which both started promoting 5/1 yesterday. I post this because it is a similar industry based on large amounts of people gathering from far away. Nevada's economy is as single industry based as Orlando, imho.

I would expect casinos to be more aggressive in reopening than Disney, as they don't are not as diversified as Disney.

They’re also a pretty predatory industry and likely don’t place the same value on human life as Disney does.

 

[havoc315]

You say this with such certainty! ? Dr. Fucci himself said that the next wave will probably be late fall early winter so why not open up let people who want to be there go and then take the necessary precautions when or if that time happens.

The whole point is to PREVENT another wave. Around 100,000 Americans are likely to perish in this wave.
If we take PREVENTIVE measures, then there won't be another massive wave at all.
If you wait until you start to see cases, then another 100,000 Americans die.
If you don't take the necessary precautions until you start to see the cases, then it's too late.

 

[havoc315]

Oh, don't get me wrong, I totally agree with you about there being another spike afterwards. In fact, I think we need to prepare ourselves for cases to continue for the next 12-18 months. But the subsequent spikes in most countries will not be as severe as the first one, and critical care will be more able to cope. Some countries, like China and South Korea, have not had a very big initial outbreak, so they are more vulnerable, and relaxation of measures in those places is unlikely to be as quick as other countries. But the economic consequences of continuing the lockdown for too long, and the knock on effect that will have on the health of a nation, could be worse than the virus itself. There is a tipping point that will be reached, and 1st June looks like a reasonable date to aim for in most regions.

The size of the subsequent spikes will be entirely dependent on the precautions we take. If we just "go back to normal," then the subsequent spikes will be huge.
If we adapt significant precautionary measures, then the subsequent spikes can be much smaller.

 

[havoc315]

So the solution is what? Stay locked down until we get a vaccine, which may never come?

No. There is a middle ground between just staying locked down and just opening up. Need to re-open society with infection reduction strategies in place. Things like temperature checks, masks, etc.

 

[mshanson3121]

FWIW

Christmas party tickets and dates were just released this morning.

I highly doubt Disney would do this unless they know they will be in full swing by Holiday Time.

Honestly, I don't think that means anything. They were still taking reservations for April even when it was clear they wouldn't be open. Disneyland released discounts even though they weren't going to be open. I think they're just moving forward as normal to get some $$$ in the float, hoping that they can follow through, fully aware they may be refunding. But if they have to refund, no real loss to them, since they'll have accumulated the interest on that money over the months.

 

[havoc315]

but also a month ago we were barely testing and some places not at all. Every person that tests positives that isolates will keep a future spike lower and then hospitals can respond better. We won’t be as blind as we were. The current spike we have right now is from a build up of somewhere between 1-2 months possible more of many many people out and about spreading it.

Correct. But we will never be in a situation where we are administering 300 million tests per week.. testing every American, every week.
Identifying and isolating symptomatic individuals with testing will be a MAJOR part of the next phase. But there must also be strategies to reduce spread from asymptomatic and untested individuals.

 

[jlwhitney]

Correct. But we will never be in a situation where we are administering 300 million tests per week.. testing every American, every week.
Identifying and isolating symptomatic individuals with testing will be a MAJOR part of the next phase. But there must also be strategies to reduce spread from asymptomatic and untested individuals.

No but every one you does will make an impact.

 

[GADisneyDad14]

FWIW

Christmas party tickets and dates were just released this morning.

I highly doubt Disney would do this unless they know they will be in full swing by Holiday Time.

Dumb question on my part, where are you seeing this info/announcement? I don’t see any dates or tickets being available on the normal Disney pages.

 

[havoc315]

No but every one you does will make an impact.

Correct. And everyone wearing masks will have an impact. And maintaining some degree of social distancing will have an impact. And hand washing will have an impact.

You combine enough things that have an impact... and you can function.

 

[osufeth24]

So the solution is what? Stay locked down until we get a vaccine, which may never come?

a vaccine will come, It may not be for a while, but it'll come. If you look at the virus in a nutshell, it's a pretty weak virus (I don't mean what it does to the body, jus talking about the virus itself), which is why soap and water kills it. You got the brigestest minds around the entire world working 24/7 trying to kill this thing. It'll come. They've already found a few possible vaccines, but the testing and the mass production is what takes forever.

 

[Jroceagles]

Dumb question on my part, where are you seeing this info/announcement? I don’t see any dates or tickets being available on the normal Disney pages.

More likely to be open July through November before a 2nd wave may come IMO. its just my thought though.

 

[wdw_dine_junkie]

Ok, maybe I'm biased being a camper, but Ft Wilderness would be a logical soft open resort facility. Most campers are self contained, we don't need restaurants and can easily social distance between one campsite to the next. They could not hold the nightly campfire sing along and the Hoop Dee Doo for the time being.

 

[yankeesfan123]

Dumb question on my part, where are you seeing this info/announcement? I don’t see any dates or tickets being available on the normal Disney pages.

Another website reported it but then backed off when the “tickets” weren’t actually for sale. Disney did not “announce” it.

 

[Jroceagles]

Ok, maybe I'm biased being a camper, but Ft Wilderness would be a logical soft open resort facility. Most campers are self contained, we don't need restaurants and can easily social distance between one campsite to the next. They could not hold the nightly campfire sing along and the Hoop Dee Doo for the time being.

booked for Hoop De Doo September 4th. LOVE that show....been to it 34 times. Its a MUST do for us!

 

[xuxa777]

The whole point is to PREVENT another wave. Around 100,000 Americans are likely to perish in this wave.
If we take PREVENTIVE measures, then there won't be another massive wave at all.
If you wait until you start to see cases, then another 100,000 Americans die.
If you don't take the necessary precautions until you start to see the cases, then it's too late.

This is not the current projection of deaths, it is around 60K, and I bet that is revised lower in the next few days. That said there will be another way like the flu every year but it will be mitigated with , washing your hands, masks etc but Disney and other commercial establishments will be open in the fall winter.

 

[circus4u]

Here's more "food for thought" about reopening dates.
https://federalnewsnetwork.com/defe...ove-order-could-go-into-august-goldfein-says/

 

[jlwhitney]

Correct. And everyone wearing masks will have an impact. And maintaining some degree of social distancing will have an impact. And hand washing will have an impact.

You combine enough things that have an impact... and you can function.

None of these things are going to be 100% done across the board. Many things we do in everyday life, not travel, aren't going to work with social distancing, but if we don't open those areas there will be still more and more jobs lost and other issues.

 

[rteetz]

Well, they’re allowing resort bookings for 6/1, yet told CP not to show up to work on 6/1...

I think everyone expects limited experiences if they do open by then.

 

[Spridell]

Another website reported it but then backed off when the “tickets” weren’t actually for sale. Disney did not “announce” it.

Yeah My bad

Halloween though is up