I don't understand the need to have the seats recline at all.
Sounds like something Spirit Airlines would try.I hear they're developing some new under the plane economy seating. Oxygen masks, $10 extra.
Agree with both. I hate this already and FWIW, I don't believe for one second Delta or any other airline gives one hot blankety-blank about customer comfort or preference. If anything this is a run-up to being able to charge for reclining seats or non-reclining seats, if that's what the customers will pay for. Wow - it must be the end of a very trying week because I'm sitting here actually getting angry just thinking about this...Because sitting upright for long periods can be very uncomfortable for some people. It can aggravate some people's back and neck problems, as well.
I'm with the PP's who are wondering what recline ability there is even left to reduce. On most flights we've been on in recent years, the amount of recline already possible is tiny.
I hear they're developing some new under the plane economy seating. Oxygen masks, $10 extra.
How much - or what percentage - more are you willing to pay for airlines to remove seats?The airlines should reverse their evil tortuous efforts to cram even more human beings into less passenger space.
AA bought seats that don't recline back, but rotate and cradle forward on their new Boeing aircraft. So instead of using up somebody's space behind you, you eat up your own legroom.I hope American Airlines follows suit. The guy in front of me reclined and I felt like his head was about in my lap. I don't recline after reading years ago here on the DIS how it bothered people, so this doesn't bother me.
But so many times I get the full in your lap drop recliners in front of me
I had my knees bashed by the seat in front of me
Oh I can smell their shampoo now
I know exaggeration is normal online, but every time this comes up, I think "what airlines are they flying"? About 4 years ago, I was flying Delta home from an event and had gotten upgraded to the "comfort+" seating. Before we got off the plane (after we were on the ground), I reclined the seat all the way so I could get a picture of how much this recline really is.The guy in front of me reclined and I felt like his head was about in my lap.
Not on 99% of airline seats. On some newer ones they do, as I mentioned above the newest AA seats, but it's certainly quite rare. There's a lot of impact absorbing going on in an airline seat, and to be put on a certified transport category aircraft takes a lot of engineering and design work, which is why such a basic feature is such a recent addition to aircraft. And I don't believe that a single regional jet has them as an option yet.That looks like 2-3" to me. I don't see anyway that's even close to being in someone's lap. And if the seat truly "reclines", wouldn't the bottom of the seat back then be moved forward?
Sorry, "not" what? The bottom of the back of the seat, even if it doesn't go forward, must then not move back. If the entire seat back moves back, then it's not reclining. And I'm not referring to where the seat is physically attached to the aircraft.Not on 99% of airline seats. On some newer ones they do, as I mentioned above the newest AA seats, but it's certainly quite rare. There's a lot of impact absorbing going on in an airline seat, and to be put on a certified transport category aircraft takes a lot of engineering and design work, which is why such a basic feature is such a recent addition to aircraft. And I don't believe that a single regional jet has them as an option yet.
Thanks for posting that pic. It’s so slight of a recline I don’t know how any one could be bothered by it.I know exaggeration is normal online, but every time this comes up, I think "what airlines are they flying"? About 4 years ago, I was flying Delta home from an event and had gotten upgraded to the "comfort+" seating. Before we got off the plane (after we were on the ground), I reclined the seat all the way so I could get a picture of how much this recline really is.
That looks like 2-3" to me. I don't see anyway that's even close to being in someone's lap. And if the seat truly "reclines", wouldn't the bottom of the seat back then be moved forward?
Next time you fly, do the same thing I did... recline the seat all the way and then take a picture.
Thanks for the pic.I know exaggeration is normal online, but every time this comes up, I think "what airlines are they flying"? About 4 years ago, I was flying Delta home from an event and had gotten upgraded to the "comfort+" seating. Before we got off the plane (after we were on the ground), I reclined the seat all the way so I could get a picture of how much this recline really is.
That looks like 2-3" to me. I don't see anyway that's even close to being in someone's lap. And if the seat truly "reclines", wouldn't the bottom of the seat back then be moved forward?
Next time you fly, do the same thing I did... recline the seat all the way and then take a picture.
According to the link in the first post, economy seats currently recline 4", and FC seats recline 5.5". These test planes are having that reduced by two inches (50%/36%).That looks like 2-3" to me.
The seats don't truly recline, apparently. The seatbacks hinge back. If the seats truly reclined, that would reduce the reclining passenger's pitch even more than the airlines have already designed.And if the seat truly "reclines", wouldn't the bottom of the seat back then be moved forward?