Sammie
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CarolA said:BINGO!
What did we do before forums like these? Lived happily in ignorance.
Carol, and you would not believe how much Disney wishes every single day that ignorance still exisited,
CarolA said:BINGO!
What did we do before forums like these? Lived happily in ignorance.
CapeCodFam said:
It is odd isn't it...
TCPluto said:And for those that get so vocal and rude when talking about the H/A rooms, be glad you don't need one. I would love to get one and not need it. Think about that when you WALK into your room next time.
Is it possible that the world does not revolve around you?
crisi said:Shan, I have far fewer points than you and always stay in a one or two bedroom....
Its a matter of priorities. Under the current system, if you need to be guarenteed a tub you have one choice - book a unit with a master bath. If are comfortable risking not having a tub in exchange for more nights or taking family, that's your choice, but you have made a choice. And at this point, an informed one. Personally, I don't think the risk is huge - and I bet if you got "no tub" you'd discover your kids stay pretty clean if they swim each day - you might not like it, but at the end of the vacation, no one would be sick from no tub or too smelly. I know people who canoe and camp during Spring and Fall in the Boundry Waters with smaller kids - no one takes a bath all week!
Sammie said:Really it's not that odd. More and more children are asthmatic these days. Many experts believe it is due to more and more additives in our food sources. Asthma is certainly not anything, anyone should make fun. One's lifestyle has to change to live with it.
sjdisneywedding said:not to be rude, but who in the world are you to judge what is important to other people and what they can or cant put up with. Maybe you put up with the smoke in public areas, but I certainly do not nor does any non smoker I know.
Basically this whole thing is *&#@-poor planning on the part of dvc. I stay in hundreds of hotel rooms a year and in every single one of them S/NS and HA/NHA are options. I have had exactly one smoking and one handicapped room in the last 4 years of traveling and that was by choice when told thats all they had at the time of booking.
I really dont care about 100% occupancy and what the rules on requests are now. Thisis Disney and I expect them to be on the very top when customer service is involved, period. At the very least allow these requests to be guarenteed at the 10-11 month mark. It wouldnt cause any problems on occupancy because everyone else would not be able to guarentee these requests. If something happens to the room they were assigned theres a hundred options to change it up
Make it work, this is absloutley ridiculous.
CapeCodFam said:My 9 y/o is asthmatic with severe allergies. We know all about it. But, It would be truly shameful if we exploit him to get something we prefer. For us to state we need non-smoking for asthma would be assinine. However, others don't seem to mind using leverage.
TCPluto said:I would suggest that over 99% of the non-smoking world does not refuse to go into establishments which allow smoking. We certainly try to minimize our exposure (go less frequently, non-smoking section, etc.), but we still move freely in the environment, as does the smoke. We deal with the exposure. While it would be more convenient to not have to deal with it at all, most understand that they are not alone in the world. .
TCPluto said:I think much of our discussion regarding what DVC should do is quite juvenile.
CapeCodFam said:It has nothing to do with feeling powerful or almighty. Maybe my arugment wasn't the best use of an example. I wish I was a wordsmith.
There just seems to be a high occurrence of medical necessities. It begs that either people are abusing the system or we have the most sickly bunch of members.
sjdisneywedding said:my goodness this really has nothing at all to do with the issue. nothing at all
sjdisneywedding said:I believe there are alot of abusers, but you cant punish those who truly need it just because of these abusers. there will always be people who abuse the system.
if they set it up so those who need it can get it at their home resort at 11 months I think thats a step in the right direction. Then if you dont get it you cant complain, plain and simple.
TCPluto said:I respectfully disagree with your assessment, please try to do the same.
I think it is relevent. While those of us that do deal with physical disabilities are likely prone to being more sensitive to the issues, it is something we all should think about.
How do you think it makes a handicapped person feel when you repeatedly degrade an accommodation set aside to assist them (an assistance not for enjoyment, but adaptions which allow daily life matters to be addressed)? Do you think they receive another message as well?
lenshanem said:There are always gonna be a few bad apples that will try to abuse the system. That doesn't mean everyone is lying. I have said before that I'd gladly supply DVC with a medical note from both her ped and allergist to be kept on file if it would help guarantee us a nonsmoking room.
Can't us DISers all get along?
I should have been asleep two hours ago. Wonder how many pages this will be up to tomorrow? Nite!
EDIT - Wow, sjdisneywedding. Looks like we were typing almost the same thing at the same time. Great minds think alike.
sjdisneywedding said:I do respect your assessment and
I am probably more aware than you would believe of a handicapped persons feelings
but my belief is that HA rooms are designed for specific reasons to meet specific needs. It doesnt mean they are "horrible" or "terrible" or better or worse or anything. For the majority of people they pose no problems at all, but they could be without a tub and they do have lower counter and stoves which could lead to issues with children.
Also I have read of differences with beds which I personally am unaware of.
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