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It’s 7pm. Wife is in line. I’m hanging with lil ones...anyone got a good idea of the wait time right now once entering the line?
 


Yeah they usually have CM previews for all new attractions


Actually by not having CM experience the attraction they are not putting guests first.
The 4 keys of Disney are Safety , Courtesy, Show and Efficiency
By not giving the CM a preview they can't meet any of these (unless you are a RotR CM which they have gone on it)
For example, guest approaches random CM at DHS to ask if the ride would give them motion sickness...CM can't answer. Hence lack for safety, courtesy, efficiency
Guest asks CM what type of experience is it? again, lack of keys in place.
and like these many more examples

There are plenty of CMs to answer questions and be accurate. Safety , Courtesy, Show and Efficiency occur without every CM riding a ride. Guests pay money, if 100 cast members went opening day and 100 regular guests didn't get in that would be 100 extra fp+ and tickets to give away. Its very nice to see them think of the guests, especially with the blackout dates.
 
I am one of the few lucky CMs that have an AP. It’s from last year before I was hired and actually expires this week. I think it is absolutely ridiculous that cast are blocked out for so long.

As others have said they should have the opportunity to ride so they can answer questions and also just for the sheer fact that they work so hard. There is no reason for Disney not to give them the opportunity to ride. It would take 3-4 days max for previews for anyone that wanted it. It would be fine to not give previews as long as they didn’t block CMs out. But to do both is wrong IMO.
 
Well BG 115 and only 730p -- another 1.5 hours. If I were manager of HS, would take an opportunity to rotate folk through the ride. Happy Holidays :)
 


There are plenty of CMs to answer questions and be accurate. Safety , Courtesy, Show and Efficiency occur without every CM riding a ride. Guests pay money, if 100 cast members went opening day and 100 regular guests didn't get in that would be 100 extra fp+ and tickets to give away. Its very nice to see them think of the guests, especially with the blackout dates.

CMs could have been given the chance to ride before it was open to the public though. And even without that opportunity, I think CMs should have only been blocked out from the opening week/first 2 weeks max. Blackout dates can always be lifted, but as it is, CMs don’t know when they will have the opportunity to ride. Guests obviously come first, but many of the cast overlap into this category and for them to have to choose between buying a day ticket or an AP when it’s possible blackout dates might be lifted after the fact is not courteous to them either.
 
There are plenty of CMs to answer questions and be accurate. Safety , Courtesy, Show and Efficiency occur without every CM riding a ride. Guests pay money, if 100 cast members went opening day and 100 regular guests didn't get in that would be 100 extra fp+ and tickets to give away. Its very nice to see them think of the guests, especially with the blackout dates.
I don't think you understand how CM preview usually work.
They have access to the ride before it opens to the public, it takes no space from a guest. that's how previews work
As far as having "plenty of CM to answer questions" in this case. if someone has a question that is not right next to the ride they would not get an answer, so for example even if you are in the park, a very small number of CM would have the answer.
 
There are plenty of CMs to answer questions and be accurate. Safety , Courtesy, Show and Efficiency occur without every CM riding a ride. Guests pay money, if 100 cast members went opening day and 100 regular guests didn't get in that would be 100 extra fp+ and tickets to give away. Its very nice to see them think of the guests, especially with the blackout dates.

As a paying guest, I want happy and fulfilled cast members who want to be there and take pride in working for Disney. As a paying guest, I want them to be able to fully take advantage of what is arguably the best benefit of working front lines at a Disney park. Sucks they ever get blacked out for any significant amount of time.
 
Sounds like less people per BG and more BGs...
What would that mean for the ride total? For example, 90 100-person BGs would be 9k guests, but 120 50-person BGs would only be 6k. And what would operating the ride at a lower capacity do to help alleviate things, other than fewer people to evacuate when the ride breaks?

I know we don't have any idea of capacity or of ride totals, or even of BG sizes. I've heard the ride is operating at severely reduced capacity since it opened.
 
Just off the ride! Completely unexpected opportunity. An hour ago, we were sitting in our OKW villa. We decided to come over to HS just in case more groups opened. We went straight to SWGE and walked past ROTR. We were going to ride MFSR, but my husband just stopped and said maybe we should ask someone if more groups were opening. I figured it couldn’t hurt, so off he went.

I waited for him at least five minutes and wondered where he was. And then he ran up to me and said to hurry - we were getting to ride! When he asked an amazing CM about the likelihood of more groups opening, she asked him how many were in our party. When he told her two, she told him to come get me and hurry back to her. Two minutes later, she was escorting us into the queue!

Best pixie dust we’ve received in a long time! And the ride was even better the second time. We saw so much more than when we rode it for the first time yesterday morning.

Now we’re in line to ride MFSR. And then we’re heading to DAH at MK. But our night has already been made. Now to Twitter to tweet a cast compliment!
 
Just off the ride! Completely unexpected opportunity. An hour ago, we were sitting in our OKW villa. We decided to come over to HS just in case more groups opened. We went straight to SWGE and walked past ROTR. We were going to ride MFSR, but my husband just stopped and said maybe we should ask someone if more groups were opening. I figured it couldn’t hurt, so off he went.

I waited for him at least five minutes and wondered where he was. And then he ran up to me and said to hurry - we were getting to ride! When he asked an amazing CM about the likelihood of more groups opening, she asked him how many were in our party. When he told her two, she told him to come get me and hurry back to her. Two minutes later, she was escorting us into the queue!

Best pixie dust we’ve received in a long time! And the ride was even better the second time. We saw so much more than when we rode it for the first time yesterday morning.

Now we’re in line to ride MFSR. And then we’re heading to DAH at MK. But our night has already been made. Now to Twitter to tweet a cast compliment!

That is awesome!!!! I thought we scored big when a CM outside Buzz handed us 2 paper FP for whatever after small talking for a bit lol. Yours wins!
 
Just off the ride! Completely unexpected opportunity. An hour ago, we were sitting in our OKW villa. We decided to come over to HS just in case more groups opened. We went straight to SWGE and walked past ROTR. We were going to ride MFSR, but my husband just stopped and said maybe we should ask someone if more groups were opening. I figured it couldn’t hurt, so off he went.

I waited for him at least five minutes and wondered where he was. And then he ran up to me and said to hurry - we were getting to ride! When he asked an amazing CM about the likelihood of more groups opening, she asked him how many were in our party. When he told her two, she told him to come get me and hurry back to her. Two minutes later, she was escorting us into the queue!

Best pixie dust we’ve received in a long time! And the ride was even better the second time. We saw so much more than when we rode it for the first time yesterday morning.

Now we’re in line to ride MFSR. And then we’re heading to DAH at MK. But our night has already been made. Now to Twitter to tweet a cast compliment!
And that folks is one of the many reasons that Disney cm's are awsome!!! Good for the 2 of you. Enjoy the rest of your magical night!
 
What would that mean for the ride total? For example, 90 100-person BGs would be 9k guests, but 120 50-person BGs would only be 6k. And what would operating the ride at a lower capacity do to help alleviate things, other than fewer people to evacuate when the ride breaks?

I know we don't have any idea of capacity or of ride totals, or even of BG sizes. I've heard the ride is operating at severely reduced capacity since it opened.
Less people per hour if its less per BG. Having not been on it yet until next week...from what I can see people do some walking within the ride, so that can very hourly capacity (how fast people move or kids start having issues, etc)... It allows an evac to be less people if there is an issue. Since once they release a BG not everyone is going to show up on the spot, so having less people means less trickle within the two hour window as they progress the BG numbers up. Plus once the BGs are called and the line fills, the more people in a BG the bigger the line is outside the ride to get in. Also since they know their ride capacity, this could allow them to actually finish all BGs before park closing, fit in some standbys towards the park closing and not have angry people that showed up before park closing only to get a FP or Park Hopper.
 
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I think it is going to be really interesting to see how long the pattern of people lining up at 5 am and the park opening at 6:30 am lasts. I definitely think at this rate, it will last through the new year. It may not slow down till 2nd week of January. Thoughts?
I doubt it will slow down the 2nd week of January as that is Marathon week. I hope you are right though as I will be there :)
 
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