Give us a thread with your Kauai plans!! I’m planning Maui and Kauai in 2022 and love to hear others’ ideas!We are hoping to go to Kauai and Oahu in March. Not if we have to self quarantine for 14 days.
We have Kauai booked, did that in January before we ever heard of coronavirus! We can’t book Aulani until August. I really hope we can go!!
most of whats been said to the media by the state and city governments has largely just been "throw enough darts at a wall and maybe one sticks"...aka "we don't really know what to do". it is possible they may be throwing out all of these ideas to see if any of them don't get noticeable backlash before they look into them further...could also be a throw out a crazy idea...and let others figure out if its legal or not,,,aka "make the fact checkers become free labor".The problem I have with most of the ideas thrown out there by the Hawaiian Gov’t for conditional tourism just don’t seem practicable or in some cases even legal. According to The NY Times, opening tourism to the Japanese and not to the mainland USA may run them afoul of the FTC. As to getting tested before you go, how are they going to verify that and still adhere to HIPAA regulations? How would someone provide proof of testing? A Lab report? Any sort of paper documentation they will have forged copies out there within a day of release. As much as they’d like to distance themselves from the other 49 states they are still part of the USA and bound to those laws.
most of whats been said to the media by the state and city governments has largely just been "throw enough darts at a wall and maybe one sticks"...aka "we don't really know what to do". it is possible they may be throwing out all of these ideas to see if any of them don't get noticeable backlash before they look into them further...could also be a throw out a crazy idea...and let others figure out if its legal or not,,,aka "make the fact checkers become free labor".
for HIPAA regs...it is quite possible that the reason disney, universal, and others are going with thermal scanners is so that they comply with it (having a temp above x does not necessarily reveal a specific medical condition and in some cases doesn't mean there is any medical condition at all). after this is all over HIPAA seems like one of many laws that get tweaked as part of a "lessons learned" sort of thing.
In the mean time, from pretty much the other end of the country: https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...ek-quarantine-rule-discriminates-against-tour
water in hawaii (and possibly elsewhere in the US as well isn’t chlorinated)...such as bathrooms and toilets. the virus is detectable in the sewer systems...so it must be present to some extent in bowels and/or bladders..
I don’t quite follow that connection. There are plenty of ways the virus can enter the sewer system by means of people washing faces, hands and flushing miriad contaminated tissues down the toilet. The presence in the stool can be attributed to nasal drainage down the esophagus into the digestive tract where it passes through. Most evidence of viral presence in the stool is of viral DNA, not active virus. The presence of active virus in the stool is more postulated then proven right now. Also to keep in mind is that the water in the toilets and sinks is chlorinated. Lastly a fart carrying the virus is a bit far fetched the virons travel via water droplets and not via a gas.
I really doubt any municipal water source is NOT chlorinated.water in hawaii (and possibly elsewhere in the US as well isn’t chlorinated)
Yes, all of the water pumped into the BWS water distribution system is chlorinated. Concentrations ranging from 0.25 to 0.5 milligrams per liter (ppm) of chlorine can be found throughout the water system. Since excessive amounts of chlorine can affect the taste and odor of drinking water, the BWS adds only what is needed to keep disease-causing bacteria from contaminating our water supply.
If you experience a strong chlorine smell or taste in your water, contact the BWS Microbiological Laboratory at (808) 748-5850.
Nice work. Wish I would of seen this before I read the entire previoius post. lolI really doubt any municipal water source is NOT chlorinated.
Oahu Board of Water Supply
https://www.boardofwatersupply.com/water-quality/frequently-asked-questions
It's hard for me to understand why they aren't working on realistic plans that can both save lives while at the same time not destroy people's lives. We have enough data now to understand how this spreads and who is most vulnerable to the virus. However no matter how much data is collected it never seems to be enough as they continue to operate in a constant state of fear and therefore prefer to rely on hope to be the answer to save Hawaii.
There seems to be no balance between the two philosophical schools of thoughts which is to save all lives at all cost and personal freedom to allow people to choose how they want to live their lives.
We'll see if the Justice Department prevails over the Maine case. I would imagine that if they do then Hawaii is next on the Justice Department's radar.
Maine requires tourists but not residents to self-quarantine. Hawaii requires both tourists and residents to self-quarantine. The argument of discrimination wouldn't apply in Hawaii.
They are lifting the quarantine requirement for inter island travel on June 16th and are working on plans for the people of New Zealand, Australia, Japan and South Korea to travel without quarantine restrictions. Hawaii was given US tax payer money of $5 billion for the whopping grand total of 652 coronavirus cases, and yet they are talking about opening up their island to foreigners before their own fellow Americans??? They are acting as if they are their own sovereign nation trying to make deals with other countries. I'm sorry, but this does not sit right with me at all.