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United Airlines Kills a Dog

I'm all for providing a safe environment and safe handling for animals on flights, but the inclusion of administration of meds is a terrible idea for everyone involved. I'm trying to picture a baggage handler accurately dosing and injecting insulin into a fractious cat or a flight attendant trying to get a pill down an aggressive dog's throat and... yeah, this has disaster written all over it.
Agreed. We have a 15yo, decrepit cat that looks and sounds like he's going to keel over any minute. But, man--try to give him a pill, and he can fight you like nobody's business! It takes two of us--one dressed in combat gear (padded long sleeves, gloves) while the other person pries open his jaw and tosses a pill down. Luckily, we rarely have to do this, but it's an ordeal. But to look at him, he's just a skinny, ratty--looking old cat. P.S. He's also the one who yowled the entire trip when we flew him down for our move.
 
Agreed. We have a 15yo, decrepit cat that looks and sounds like he's going to keel over any minute. But, man--try to give him a pill, and he can fight you like nobody's business! It takes two of us--one dressed in combat gear (padded long sleeves, gloves) while the other person pries open his jaw and tosses a pill down. Luckily, we rarely have to do this, but it's an ordeal. But to look at him, he's just a skinny, ratty--looking old cat. P.S. He's also the one who yowled the entire trip when we flew him down for our move.
OT: We had a cat with a serious illness. The doctor told us the only potential treatment was a pill given 3 times a day. My mind couldn't comprehend giving a cat a pill 3 times a day. Then they suggested Pill Pockets. That cat willingly ate the pill off my hand as a treat. It was a wonder to behold.
 
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Can a state pass such a law that applies to the airlines? I think it would be easier for an airline to say "no pets".
I don't think a "no pets" rule would be feasible. There are always going to be people that legitimately need to get their animal somewhere via airplane. My cousin and his wife moved to Japan for two years and took their cats with them. If they had not been able to take the cats on the plane, how would they have gotten them there? It isn't like they could drive to Japan.
 


I don't think a "no pets" rule would be feasible. There are always going to be people that legitimately need to get their animal somewhere via airplane. My cousin and his wife moved to Japan for two years and took their cats with them. If they had not been able to take the cats on the plane, how would they have gotten them there? It isn't like they could drive to Japan.
The cats would have stayed back with someone who would keep them, or sold.
 
I don't think a "no pets" rule would be feasible. There are always going to be people that legitimately need to get their animal somewhere via airplane. My cousin and his wife moved to Japan for two years and took their cats with them. If they had not been able to take the cats on the plane, how would they have gotten them there? It isn't like they could drive to Japan.
Sure it is. Airlines would have to decide whether they pay to make the upgrades required or lose customers by having such a rule.
 


Sure it is. Airlines would have to decide whether they pay to make the upgrades required or lose customers by having such a rule.
I agree. It's that simple really. I don't think there would be any meaningful loss in revenue. My guess would be the same or more.
 
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I'm trying to picture a baggage handler accurately dosing and injecting insulin into a fractious cat or a flight attendant trying to get a pill down an aggressive dog's throat and... yeah, this has disaster written all over it.

Yeah, I was thinking about needing to give injections too. I barely know how to do it, and that's only from watching TV, where they tip the needle end up, sometimes they tap the side with a finger to get the air bubble to rise, and then squirt a little out to make sure there are no air bubbles that could be lethal. Have you guys ever noticed, even kidnappers know to do all that? But, United Airlines baggage handler/animal attendants. No such luck. :sad2:
 
So people who have to move to another country should just sell their pets like they are an old couch they aren't taking with them?

Then don't move to areas where the animals can't be transported via car. Nobody is ever forced to move, not even because of a job.

FYI, I'm only discussing this because of the hypothetical suggestion about no animals on planes. If that were to happen, it is feasible.
 
Outlander actor Graham McTavish was on a United flight this past Friday where he says they made jokes about dogs in overhead bins.

http://en.brinkwire.com/220426/graham-mctavish-says-united-crew-made-jokes-about-dogs-on-his-flight/

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I will never fly United. :thumbsup2
 
According to a USA Today report, United Airlines accounted for one third of animal deaths in the United States over the course of five years.

The Transportation Department’s Air Travel Consumer Report reports 'United had 53 animals die on its flights from January 2012 through February 2017.'

This is in comparison to the 'total of 136 animals that died on all flights of airlines'.

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United Airlines accounted for 18 of 24 animal deaths on flights in 2017


For the full year 2017, United accounted for 18 of 24 animal deaths on flights among the 17 airlines that reported to the Department of Transportation.

Two geckos were found dead upon arriving at Raleigh-Durham airport, but no medical exam was performed. No corrective action was required.

January 28, 2017:

Hope, the nine-year-old cat died of suspected heart failure. No corrective action required.

January 21, 2017:

Rocco, the dog, died on a flight from a cardiac abnormality due to congenital heart disease, according to a necropsy examine. No corrective action required.

March 13, 2017:

Bull terrier was discovered deceased upon arrival to Denver, Colorado. Post mortem exam attributed primary cause of death to gastric dilation. No corrective action was required.

For the full year 2017, United (file image) accounted for 18 of 24 animal deaths on flights among the 17 airlines that reported to the Department of Transportation

March 21, 2017:

Riko, the three-year-old Abyssinian escaped his shipping container during the acceptance process. The dog evaded capture and was struck by an oncoming vehicle.

Corrective Action Taken: United will review existing procedures to enhance security of animal during acceptance process.

April 26, 2017:

An 11-year-old pug named Domi was discovered deceased upon arrival in Brazil. The pet owner refused a medical exam to determine the actual cause of death. No corrective action was required.

June 24, 2017:

A two-year-old Spanish Alano named Chocofan arrived deceased from Newark, New Jersey, to Orlando, Florida. An examine determined the dog died from gastric dilation volvulus and torsion (GDVT). No corrective action was required.

July 5, 2017:

A 12-year-old Labrador retriever named Tank was discovered deceased upon arrival on a flight from Delhi, India, to Newark, New Jersey.

An examine concluded that the cause of death could not be determined by pathologic examination. No corrective action was taken.

July 13, 2017:

Oliver, the 11-year-old American-shorthair cat arrived deceased to Denver, Colorado, after traveling from Guam via Honolulu.

The necropsy attributed his cause of death to be heart failure. No corrective action was required.

August 6, 2017:

Lulu, the four-year-old Cavalier King Charles Spaniel arrived deceased to San Francisco, California. A necropsy attributed the cause of death to heat stroke.

Corrective Action Taken: Three animals were on board flight 1815; the other two animals were healthy upon arrival into San Francisco. No corrective action taken.

September 26, 2017:

An eight-year-old pug named Bella was discovered deceased upon arrival in San Francisco, California.

The preliminary diagnosis of the medical exam concluded the cause of death could not be determined, however, there was an indication of preexisting heart disease, which may have contributed to sudden heart failure. No corrective action was taken.

September 30, 2017:

Hope, a one-year-old American bully was discovered deceased upon arrival in Newark, New Jersey from Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic.

A preliminary exam was inconclusive; pathology is still pending. Cause of death is unknown at this time. No corrective action was taken.

October 10, 2017:

Trek, the two-year-old Irish Water Spaniel, was discovered deceased upon arrival in Marshall Islands.

The dog had been transported to Oahu for a medical exam, but the cause of death was never determined. No corrective action was taken.

October 23, 2017:

Tabby, the eight-week-old Devon-Rex, was discovered deceased upon arrival in Chicago, Illinois.

An exam attributed the cause of death to anxiety, limiting the oxygen flow in the respiratory system. No corrective action was taken.

October 23, 2017:

Mambo, the Staffordshire bull terrier, appeared to be in distress during the pet's layover. He was then transported to the vet.

The dog became non-responsive by the time he arrived to the hospital. An exam determined he suffered from a cardiac dysfunction, which contributed to the death. No corrective action taken.

December 21, 2017:

One of four pet Conure birds was discovered deceased at a kenneling facility during layover. The cause of death is unknown. No corrective action was required.

December 22, 2017:

Bator, the bulldog, was discovered deceased upon arrival in Newark, New Jersey. A necropsy is still pending. No corrective action was taken.

Source: Transportation.gov

On Tuesday, two other dogs belonging to other passengers ended up on the wrong side of the world in a colossal mix-up.

Irgo the German Shepherd was meant to fly with his owners to Wichita, Kansas, from Portland, Oregon, stopping off at Denver on the way.

Instead, he was sent by mistake to Naruto, Japan.

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UNITED AIR'S DISASTROUS YEAR, cont'd

April 2017 - DOCTOR DRAGGING

Three airport security officers at Chicago´s O`Hare International Airport viciously dragged Dr. David Dao on a flight to Louisville, Kentucky.

The violent incident was captured on cell phone camera by passengers on the United Express Flight 3411 to Louisville.

The graphic footage went viral and showed Dr. Dao's bloodied face after the officers dragged him down the aisle, dropped his head on an arm rest, leaving him with a concussion, a broken nose and two missing teeth.

Ultimately, the airline was not punished over the incident that sparked national outrage.

The US Department of Transportation said it found no evidence that the airline violated the civil rights of the 69-year-old old and there was not enough evidence confirming it violated rules of bumping passengers off overcrowded planes.

April 2017 - BUNNY DEATH

United sparked controversy that same month after Simon, a ten-month-old 3ft continental giant rabbit, died on one of its planes.

The 'fit and healthy' giant rabbit was expected to outgrow the world's biggest rabbit, died in cargo hold of a United Airlines flight from Heathrow Airport to Chicago on April 19, its owner, Annette Edwards, said.

The rabbit died on the plane after it was accidentally shut in a freezer by bungling staff.

A mystery US celebrity buyer paid more than £2,000 to fly him from Heathrow to Chicago at the time.

According to a USA Today report, United Airlines accounted for one third of animal deaths in the United States over the course of five years.

The Transportation Department’s Air Travel Consumer Report reports 'United had 53 animals die on its flights from January 2012 through February 2017.'

This is in comparison to the 'total of 136 animals that died on all flights of airlines'.

The recent slew of onboard airline deaths of the animals do not necessarily mean United was responsible, as some were from natural causes.

June 2017 - TODDLER'S SEAT

On June 29, A Hawaii woman was forced to hold her 27-month-old son on her lap after a flight attendant gave her seat to another passenger.

Shirley Yamauchi said she purchased the airline tickets to Boston three months before the incident, Hawaii News Now reported.

Her son, over the age of two, was required to sit in his own seat on the plane. Yamauchi bought her son, Taizo's ticket for nearly $1,000 before it was given up.

United Airlines issued an apology over the incident a few days after after the woman's story went viral.

January 2018 - NO TOILETS

On January 14, United Airlines Flight 1219 intended to be a direct flight from Denver, Colorado to Kauai, Hawaii, was diverted to San Francisco because the toilets had not been serviced.

About five hours into the trip, the pilot announced the flight would be diverted to California.

When the plane finally landed in San Francisco, passengers got aboard another plane.

The flight, intended to last roughly eight hours, ended up being a 16 hour ride.

Passenger Rich Anderson told Fox 31 that 'everyone was disgusted' and he was headed to Hawaii to celebrate his anniversary with his wife Kristin at the inconvenient time.

He told the outlet they were halfway over the Pacific Ocean when the announcement was made.

January 2018 - FECES VANDALIZATION

A United Air flight from from Chicago to Hong Kong was diverted to Alaska after a man vandalized two airplane bathrooms with his own feces.

'We received a report of a passenger who had messed up the bathrooms with his own feces,' Anchorage Airport Police Lieutenant Joe Gamache said in a statement, according to Reuters.

The man, who had a Vietnamese passport and held U.S. residency, was escorted off the plane and questioned by police after.

The individual was not charged, but sent to a mental hospital for evaluation after. No injuries were reported.

March 2018 - DOG KILLED AND ANOTHER SHIPPED TO JAPAN

On March 12, a french bulldog died on a flight from Houston to New York after a flight attendant its family put him in an overhead compartment for the flight.

When the family landed, they found the dog, named Kokito, dead in its crate.

Just a day later, a family went to pick their dog at a United cargo facility in Kansas City, Missouri, and were given the wrong dog.

They later learned that heir dog had been put on a plane to Japan, instead of being sent from Oregon to Missouri with them.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...avish-says-United-crew-jokes-dogs-flight.html
 
January 2018 - NO TOILETS

On January 14, United Airlines Flight 1219 intended to be a direct flight from Denver, Colorado to Kauai, Hawaii, was diverted to San Francisco because the toilets had not been serviced.

About five hours into the trip, the pilot announced the flight would be diverted to California.

When the plane finally landed in San Francisco, passengers got aboard another plane.

The flight, intended to last roughly eight hours, ended up being a 16 hour ride.

Passenger Rich Anderson told Fox 31 that 'everyone was disgusted' and he was headed to Hawaii to celebrate his anniversary with his wife Kristin at the inconvenient time.

He told the outlet they were halfway over the Pacific Ocean when the announcement was made.

This happened to me on a flight to Hawaii several years ago on Delta. It wasn't that they hadn't been serviced, but it started with all the lavatories on one side going out of service, then the other side. We had to turn back to LA and change planes. The bad thing was we had already had to turn around once and land in San Diego because of a medical issue. That was a miserable flight!
 
The article also states something where weren't aware of before:

"United Airlines — which last year had the highest rate of animal deaths per airline carrier, with 18 animals killed and 13 injured"​

(Although, as someone else stated, an important point we don't know is the statistics overall as to how many animals they fly vs. other carriers.)

I saw an article the other day but can't seem to find it again.

The gist was that United flies more animals than any other airline by a wide margin. Even taking that into account, their incident rate (say, based on 1000 animals flown) is almost twice as bad as the next airline, which I believe is Alaska Airlines.
 

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