Sad Story from One Who Trusted without Checking!

[JimMIA]

I read the first and last pages of this post so I don't know if this has been suggested but is the original post and any applicable one that followed still here? If so print them out. They should show the offer to make a sale for financial compensation. Also see if you can get a transaction number for the money transfer. That proves the money was paid. You already have the name and phone number of the person who offered the points and the city in which the money was picked up. If you call the district attorney's number in the city where the money was received they may have enough information to follow up with a fraud charge.

You might want to read the entire thread. I know it's work, but the answer is there for the reading.

 

[KingdomJack]

That really stinks. I'll feel for you.

 

[8mma]

Thanks everyone for sharing - it took me two long days to read the whole thread but I've learned quite a bit from it all. I think everyone who read this has come away wiser for it.

 

[fireflymedic]

wow I read the whole post from page one to hear,

I dont think I will rent from any one in NY in fact I want to rent from someone close enough to drive there and get my money back face to face.

I realy do want to rent points and think I will try it next yr.

I want the 2 bedroom and I just cant afford to do that though Disney but buying points make it more in my range. I even like the idea of not having a made come in the room every day.

It just sounded like a good deal all around a true win/win.

 

[jade1]

wow I read the whole post from page one to hear,

I dont think I will rent from any one in NY in fact I want to rent from someone close enough to drive there and get my money back face to face.

I realy do want to rent points and think I will try it next yr.

I want the 2 bedroom and I just cant afford to do that though Disney but buying points make it more in my range. I even like the idea of not having a made come in the room every day.

It just sounded like a good deal all around a true win/win.

Cripes, thats quite impressive. Have you read this thread on thier current trip at BCV on DVC Misc?

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2119929

 

[Muushka]

wow I read the whole post from page one to hear,

I dont think I will rent from any one in NY in fact I want to rent from someone close enough to drive there and get my money back face to face.

I realy do want to rent points and think I will try it next yr.

I want the 2 bedroom and I just cant afford to do that though Disney but buying points make it more in my range. I even like the idea of not having a made come in the room every day.

It just sounded like a good deal all around a true win/win.

CRO sounds like a great place to rent from. No worries there. Good luck!

PS It can be a win/win, but there must be trust on both sides.

 

[parlay]

if you read the FAQ on the renting/trading board and go with someone who has several posts - you should be okay.

now don't go with a couple I have noticed that has a several posts - but have been on the dis for years - these people have less than 100 posts after being here since 2000.

the reason for this is you want to rent from someone who would be hurt by the dis - banding them. Which is one of the few things this website can do.

a 100 or less posts in 8 years is not a great committment. (my opinion)

I have to disagree. I just spent the last 3 1/2 hours reading this entire thread, and will post just once during that time. I don't think that shows a lack of committment - its just different than yours.

And information is a powerful tool. Thank you to the person who bumped this up.

Experience is learning from your mistakes, but Wisdom is the ability to learn from other's mistakes. Thanks to Dani, and Stacey for the wisdom and their willingness to share.

 

[JimMIA]

During the period when these situations were evolving, Diznyfanatic started a thread designed to help renters sort through the many suggestions and find ways to protect themselves. The thread was actually started to seperate those discussions from this thread about the ongoing situation with Dani and Stacey.

The thread drew a lot of good input from many posters and is well worth reading if you are considering renting a ressie from a DVC owner.

Here's a link to that thread: DVC Point Rental Primer

 

[Modeltrf]

As I am new to DVC and DIS this was an enlightning read. It has certainly motivated me to read the DVC Point Rental Primer carefully

 

[dmk909]

I am also new. Maybe it is to my chagrin that I am from New York. Not New York City but the Western side along Lake Erie. (As a matter of fact, Lake Erie is looking back at me from my front windows But really, I do not think it is fair to lump all NYers into one sterotypical example of a schemer.

I have been wanting to (needing to) rent out my points fro the past couple years but have been anxious about this entire process. I have a friend who buys, sell, rents, transfers points almost as a business. He's a pro & the nicest man anyone could ever meet - unless they wrong him! He's been telling me how easy it is but I am anxious nonetheless. I guess reading these posts will make everyone better prepared and alert to possible scams.

In the meantime, how does a newbie get her points rented out? I don't have time to post continually to build up my forum presence - is there an alternative?

~Diana~ from WNY

 

[robinb]

In the meantime, how does a newbie get her points rented out? I don't have time to post continually to build up my forum presence - is there an alternative?

Diana ... I just want to be clear on something. You don't want to take the time or make the effort to become a member of the community. You just want to use the DIS rent/trade board for your own personal profit and you want to know the best way to do that. Am I missing something?

I would add your friend to your account as an associate and pay him to rent out your points.

 

[S. C.]

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[CarolAnnC]

In the meantime, how does a newbie get her points rented out? I don't have time to post continually to build up my forum presence - is there an alternative?

~Diana~ from WNY

You might want to try Ebay, but it sounds like you have already rented your points out in the past so you may find connections via that route too. Good luck...

Now back to the topic of A Sad Story.....

 

[robinb]

Just go over to the rent/trade board and list them . By the way, you are giving your points away at $9 per point in my opinion. You should be able to find someone soon enough. Lots of people don't care if you're new and inexperienced as long as they are getting a good deal ... and $9 per point is a killer deal. I don't rent my points for less than $12 per point ... but then again I am a well known poster and an experienced renter.

 

[shonnons]

Over the past 2 nights I read the whole thing, wow.

At this time trying to buy AKV and am waiting on ROFR. I had planed on renting one years points out. I don’t thing after reading this it will be so easy. My sister had been an owner and rented for some time. She has offered to help me rent the points. I thing now I may take her up on this.

This was a very sad story. I am glad that thing worked out for some of the victims involved but I do not think justice has been served.

 

[JimMIA]

Over the past 2 nights I read the whole thing, wow.

At this time trying to buy AKV and am waiting on ROFR. I had planed on renting one years points out. I don’t thing after reading this it will be so easy. My sister had been an owner and rented for some time. She has offered to help me rent the points. I thing now I may take her up on this.

This was a very sad story. I am glad that thing worked out for some of the victims involved but I do not think justice has been served.

Keep in mind that this entire thread was about the criminal actions of ONE person.

There are thousands of DVC rentals each year and almost all of them turn out fine for both parties. When there are difficulties, they are usually caused by misunderstandings; fraud like we saw with this person is extremely rare.

I'm sure your sister will be a big help to you, and there is also a sizeable group of owners here on the DIS who will be glad to give you pointers on renting.

I don't rent points, so the best advice I can give is to pay close attention to what experienced owners tell you because they know things about renting you don't. They've seen the pitfalls, they've made mistakes or seen others make mistakes, and they know what they are doing. That is especially true when they are telling you something you don't want to hear -- experienced renters KNOW what they are talking about.

 

[dmk909]

It is really terrible how such a small ratio of abuses can affect so many others and perhaps change the way honest & trusting people do business.

So, I'd like to add a thank you to the "shafted" members for sharing their experiences. Reading about what they have done "wrong" will certainly help me & others who may not be so experienced & a bit apprehensive.

 

[Tinkerbellcrafter]

wow I read the whole post from page one to hear,

I dont think I will rent from any one in NY in fact I want to rent from someone close enough to drive there and get my money back face to face.

I realy do want to rent points and think I will try it next yr.

I want the 2 bedroom and I just cant afford to do that though Disney but buying points make it more in my range. I even like the idea of not having a made come in the room every day.

It just sounded like a good deal all around a true win/win.

WOW...ALL NYS people are not bad..in fact this thread had just gotten started and the situation was happening when we were planning to rent some points for the first time..we have now rented points from 2 different people to supplement our own points for additional family members to accompany us. Both times have been fine and our vacations were GREAT!

I received some great advice from people in this thread in the early years...please do not let a few bad eggs spoil the whole batch!

 

[fireflymedic]

WOW...ALL NYS people are not bad..in fact this thread had just gotten started and the situation was happening when we were planning to rent some points for the first time..we have now rented points from 2 different people to supplement our own points for additional family members to accompany us. Both times have been fine and our vacations were GREAT!

I received some great advice from people in this thread in the early years...please do not let a few bad eggs spoil the whole batch!

I didnt let the post keep me from renting.

In fact I now have a reservation for Jan. using DVC points.

 

[tbjam01]

I am really sorry that this happpened to you. I rented out points this year for the first time. We had to cancel a trip and I was going to lose those points.
Luckey for me that the person I was renting to knew alot about this because it was my first time. We exchanged copies of our drivers license's before any money changed hands and also at the same time we both signed a contract.
It worked out great for both of us.
Everyone wants to be able to trust each other but it is hard. Going to Disney is such a fun thing you don't want to think you could get screwed.
I hope things work out.