Mackenzie Click-Mickelson
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one thing to remember if using a carseat with your toddler, the carseat must be in the window seat and you will be in the middle seat to be next to toddlerSo we will be flying with a toddler for the first time in August. I would rather avoid any issues so I can and should still pay for specific seats- am I correct?
I did not realize you need a car seat on the plane. Do you need a specific kind or do they all fit?one thing to remember if using a carseat with your toddler, the carseat must be in the window seat and you will be in the middle seat to be next to toddler
you do not need but over 2 years old and they have to sit in own seat with seat belt fastened. if you decide to use make sure seat has sticker that states approved which is most. booster seats without belts that use car belts are not usable.I did not realize you need a car seat on the plane. Do you need a specific kind or do they all fit?
A lot of people fly with lap infants, but it’s really not that safe. If you’re on a particularly turbulent flight, you may not be able to hang on to the kid. Infants should be secured in their own seat for safety, however, it’s legal to fly with them in your lap.I did not realize you need a car seat on the plane. Do you need a specific kind or do they all fit?
But who are you to decide that it's not necessary for another couple? If one of them is an extremely nervous flier or has some need that the traveling companion can fulfill? Should they not be entitled to HAVE to sit together?I think the "fairness" issue comes up with families having to pay for seats because its not really a choice. If I fly with only my husband, we like to sit together but it isn't necessary that we sit together so I wouldn't feel the need to pay extra for seat selection. When we fly with our kids, it's a necessity so it's no longer an option for us to not sit together.
Well, you are on the same plane. It's not like it would take you 15 minutes (or however long) to get to your child.I find it strange that you can't leave your kid at home alone for 30 minutes but for some reason you can leave them sitting alone on a hours-long flight?
As I said earlier, I think their idea is a good compromise. If I understand it correctly:You have literally argued for dozens of pages in two threads half a year apart about this. Your definition of fine with it is different than mine, I guess.
But who are you to decide that it's not necessary for another couple? If one of them is an extremely nervous flier or has some need that the traveling companion can fulfill? Should they not be entitled to HAVE to sit together?
The new policy applies to children under 12. Being separated from a 3 year old is completely different from being seperated from a 11.5 year old child. This isn't difficult.Because being a fully functioning adult who is nervous about flying is completely different from being separated from a 3 year old child. This isn't difficult.
Not need, but I always did when mine were of that age. It's more comfortable for them, they are used to it, and you're probably going to need it at your destination anyway.I did not realize you need a car seat on the plane. Do you need a specific kind or do they all fit?
But who are you to decide that it's not necessary for another couple? If one of them is an extremely nervous flier or has some need that the traveling companion can fulfill? Should they not be entitled to HAVE to sit together?
Well, you are on the same plane. It's not like it would take you 15 minutes (or however long) to get to your child.
As I said earlier, I think their idea is a good compromise. If I understand it correctly:
* Families with kids under 12 would not be allowed to book basic economy.
* The airline will reserve 'x' rows at the back of the plane to be assigned by company employees when they see a need for family seating.
* If there is not seating together for families left, the families will need to take another flight (with no change fees).
If that's how it works in practice, I'm fine with it.
I'm guessing there will be far more reserved family passenger seats at less desirable times like late evening and red eyes.And you know what? After thinking about it some more, I'm fine with parents booking BE, they just have to be assigned seats in the "family" section... wherever the airline reserves that (I think at the very back).
It's been mentioned that some parents don't think it's "fair" that they're not eligible to "save money" by booking BE as others are. But there's all kinds of limitations... those under 55 don't qualify for "senior discounts" offered at many places. I guess those of us that don't qualify should complain. Since this is a Disney board... those of us who don't live in Florida don't qualify for the Florida discount for Disney. Is that worth complaining about?
I don't deny that parents need/should sit with their kids. I DON'T think that should extend to age 12, but that's up to the airline. Airlines allow 5yo to fly "unaccompanied".
Why? Because the FAA makes the rules. Many parents make a choice that works for them within those currently allowed rules.On the subject of car seats;
We ALWAYS bought a seat for each of our kids and ALWAYS had them in car seats until they were big enough to fly without one. I have a couple of beefs though;
1) Why on earth would you ever bring your kid on a flight as a "lap child"? I mean, you do realize that the pressurized metal tube you are sitting in will be travelling at several hundred miles an hour, at 30k in the air right? Why would you (rightly so) strap your kid in a 5-point harness on a quick trip to the grocery store, top speed 25 mph, and not on an AIRPLANE? Seems crazy to me.
Be that as it may...
2) why do the airlines encourage you to do this by allowing you to bring the kid on this way for FREE?
And OK, it's a choice, so be it, but...
3) Why am I then charged full fare to have my kid in his own seat in a car seat when it is me, and not lap-kid parent who clearly has the safety of my kid and, (let's be honest, the kid becomes a projectile if something goes wrong), the safety of the airline crew in mind?
It makes a lot more sense, current regulations in mind, for me to book the seat for my lap-child-aged kid, then get that seat refunded if there is an empty seat on the plane. After all, that's the policy if you are of larger size and choose to book a 2nd seat on the plane. I mean, is it so hard to cut responsible parents a break once in a while?
Too late now, all my kids are older, but still...
Oh I definitely don't regret it purely for one trip alone;Why? Because the FAA makes the rules. Many parents make a choice that works for them within those currently allowed rules.
It sounds like you made the right choice for your family back in the day. Kids grow up fast for sure.
IF it wasn't the failure of the parent to plan ahead, I may approach the situation differently.what would you have done if you were seated by an unrelated kid in that situation because you wouldn't "give up your seat"?
The way it reads is "if you’re flying with children under 12, we have new tools that make it easier for them to sit next to an adult in your party for free. Soon this will also include families who have Basic Economy tickets."Isn’t the policy that children get to sit with one parent? Not the whole family is guaranteed to sit together?
What situation?To anyone who thinks parents are getting a break by getting seated with their kids - what would you have done if you were seated by an unrelated kid in that situation because you wouldn't "give up your seat"?