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College parents...fall semester?

University of Illinois is taking no prisoners. This was just sent to students.



Dear Students,
Over these past few days, the irresponsible actions of a small number of students have created the very real possibility of ending an in-person semester for all of us. Their poor choices have led to a concerning and rapid increase in the number of new undergraduate COVID-19 positive cases. We know the majority of you reading this message are following the university’s COVID-19 guidance, and we are grateful to all of you who have worked so hard to help by doing your part.
For two weeks, starting now, we are intensifying our efforts to identify and swiftly remove those individuals who have created this unacceptable risk for our campus and community and who have undermined your hard work to stay together. Students who continue to violate our safety policies, who fail to comply with directions from our public health officials and who engage in unsafe activities that risk spreading the virus will be asked to leave this university.
We believe the damage done by these individuals can be reversed. But it must be done quickly. And it will require those of you who have been working so hard this semester to shoulder even more responsibility in these next two weeks.
For two weeks, starting today at 5 p.m., for your own protection, we expect all undergraduate students to limit their in-person interactions to only the most essential activities. These include things like taking twice weekly COVID-19 tests, attending class, purchasing groceries and food, going to work, engaging in individual outdoor activity, attending religious services and seeking medical attention.
And here is the hardest part. We need you to strictly avoid social gatherings under any circumstances for these two weeks. We know what we are asking with this. Being together with friends is a big part of why you chose to come back. And for our freshmen, opening your college experience with the same isolation that ended your high school career is intensely disappointing.
It is not fair that you will be the ones to fix a situation you did not cause. But this is where we are now, and this is what it will take to repair the damage in time to break the cycle of increasing new cases. Two weeks now gives you the chance for the rest of the semester together.
Why Are We Doing This Now?
Real-time data from our Shield testing program allowed us to quickly detect a rapidly emerging increase in positive cases that will force us to return to fully remote instruction for the rest of the semester if we do not take immediate action to break the cycle.
Some students have ignored the Champaign-Urbana Public Health District (CUPHD) directives to isolate or quarantine, choosing to go out even knowing they are positive for the virus.
Some students who have tested positive are actively avoiding our contact tracers and some have repeatedly returned to testing facilities attempting to “test out” of their positive status, which is not permissible under CUPHD protocols.
Some students have made active efforts to circumvent the Safer Illinois app.
Over the weekend, we received 11 complaints about large gatherings inside fraternities and private houses.
Over the weekend, we responded to more than 100 party-related calls.
The university has identified more than 400 new positive cases since the first day of instruction, Aug. 24, and about twice as many individuals are currently in quarantine. The number of new cases we have seen in the past several days has been progressing at a rate that will double every seven days without the actions we are asking of you.
Discipline for Non-Compliance & Dangerous Behavior
For the first week of classes, we focused on education, but now we are focusing on the individuals who are endangering everyone in our community. Here are some of the actions already taken to address these issues:
A student was issued an interim suspension for hosting a large party at his apartment on Friday.
Another student was issued an interim suspension for violation of a quarantine order on Saturday.
A student who posted a video on social media attempting to show people how to circumvent the Safer Illinois app is facing discipline.
The Pi Kappa Phi fraternity has been placed on interim suspension after another large party this weekend.
Approximately 100 additional students and organizations are facing disciplinary action for their behavior over the weekend.
These violations are unacceptable, and as we identify more individuals who are being irresponsible, they should be prepared to interrupt their studies and leave campus. Students who do not comply with campus COVID-19 rules or who fail to follow any instructions from Champaign-Urbana Public Health District will face immediate suspension.
The Office of the Vice Chancellor for Student Affairs has substantially increased staffing to monitor large gatherings, parties and other unacceptable activities in University Housing and throughout the Campustown area. In addition to possible city fines, party hosts will also be subject to immediate suspension. That office is also working in collaboration with CUPHD to more quickly identify and contact undergraduate students who have tested positive or been in close contact with those who have. Students who refuse to comply with quarantine or isolation directions will face immediate suspension. Student Affairs has established this confidential web form to allow you to report unsafe activities or behavior.
What we need you to do to help
If you receive a call from Champaign-Urbana Public Health District (beginning with a 217 or 312 area code), respond immediately and follow their guidance about quarantine and isolation. If you don’t, you will be in violation of state law, and you will be suspended from the university.
Limit your in-person activities only to essentials like twice weekly COVID-19 tests, attending class, purchasing groceries and food, going to work, engaging in individual outdoor activity, attending religious services and seeking medical attention.
Avoid traveling or attending large gatherings over the Labor Day weekend. Many of our positive cases these first two weeks were brought from communities without the level of testing we have.
Remember that in addition to university disciplinary action for violation of rules, you could also be subject to fines of up to $750 per day per violation of the COVID-19 related emergency orders from the cities of Urbana or Champaign.
If you see any non-compliance, please document the evidence and submit it through this web form. You can do so confidentially. If you see something, please let us know about it.
Please Follow the Rules
We are continually monitoring our total number of COVID-19 cases and positivity rates, and each act of non-compliance affects the trajectory of the Fall 2020 semester.
We have created the most extensive testing process of any university in the country. We have extensively modeled to make the best science-driven decisions. We have invented a new COVID-19 test. We’ve created a new app to ensure building access and academic standing are linked to testing compliance. Seven teams have worked since the spring to do everything we could possibly think of to make your Illinois experience as normal as possible.
We’ve given ourselves a real chance to come together and to stay together.
But the decision to do so is in your hands.
We stay together. Or we go home.
It comes down to these next two weeks.
It is up to you.
Sincerely,
Robert J. Jones
Chancellor
Andreas C. Cangellaris
Provost
I REALLY like this letter!

No BS. No academic psycho-babble. Just, "Here it is. Deal with it."

It's also good that they have taken actual action, and told the student body about that action. Good job.

For roughly 80% of the student body, that's probably the first time anybody's ever talked to them in real-world terms, lol..
 
Just spoke to my friend whose son is at Yale. They have mandatory testing for all students twice a week. Now that's serious business.
 
DS's school sent out a strongly worded e-mail as well - not as long as yours (his school is smaller, and only 25 students are involved so far) but of a similar warning tone. I hope they can get it together before it gets out of hand!
 
Just spoke to my friend whose son is at Yale. They have mandatory testing for all students twice a week. Now that's serious business.
That's what University of Illinois was doing. And they still are having issues.
 


I was just surprised because my kid's school does not have any mandatory testing for anyone other than athletes. So, other schools are at least doing something.
 
Testing only detects. It doesn't prevent -- especially when some of the kids are trying to bypass everything.
Sure, but it's a lot easier to shut down outbreaks if you know where they are.
I REALLY like this letter!

No BS. No academic psycho-babble. Just, "Here it is. Deal with it."

It's also good that they have taken actual action, and told the student body about that action. Good job.

For roughly 80% of the student body, that's probably the first time anybody's ever talked to them in real-world terms, lol..
I like what they are saying and the serious, honest approach they're taking. But that letter is insanely long and hard to read. I'd venture to say most students won't even read all of it.
 


I like what they are saying and the serious, honest approach they're taking. But that letter is insanely long and hard to read. I'd venture to say most students won't even read all of it.
You're probably right...and that will be another good lesson for them to learn!
 
Mizzou is up to 516 cases today. That's crazy high when you know how hard it is to get a test there. You need to have symptoms, and you can't self refer. They're quarantining for exposure rather than testing. On campus, quarantine rooms are at capacity and they are putting students up in local hotels. They are encouraging kids living in state to go home if they are positive. That will certainly be great for spreading the virus around more.

Today we were pretty sure DD had been exposed. We're a little more optimistic tonight but still not sure. While she was back home last weekend, the 3 roommates had a couple friends over for a birthday (well below the limit of 20 for group gatherings) but one of the girls had been to several frat parties and now thinks she might be positive. She sat next to the roomie my daughter has been driving to and from work all week. That roomie was tested today and was negative. She could still turn positive since it's only been 5 or 6 days. But I'll take that for now. What a freaking mess.

Then in the midst of all this, the University opened up the football stadium for an 800 person protest march. Socially distanced, but I'm not sure how you take a hard line against anyone congregating with more than 20 students (including signing a pledge not to do so) then allow such a large gathering just as things are spiking. I guess they had to hurry up and get it in before the campus shuts down again.

We're ready. We admit defeat. Better to struggle through difficult classes online but have some security about where you're living and who you're with and exposed to. Looking for the best extraction plan we can come up with.
 
And so it begins...

DD is a senior living in an off campus house with 4 sorority sisters. She went back for job training in August 13th. Classes started on the 24th. Her university tested all on campus kids when they moved in but did not require any testing for off campus kids. On Wednesday DD saw another sorority sister. This girl started feeling bad this weekend (fatigue and shortness of breath) and got tested today because her doctor thinks she has Covid. Another of DD’s housemates saw this same girl in Friday and hugged her. So now DD and her housemate are quarantining and are trying to find a testing site, so they can get tested if this girl’s results are positive. In the meantime, DD’s boyfriend came to visit her this weekend. So if she has it, he’s going to bring it home with him. I’ll keep you all posted.

Argggggg!!!
Just wanted to give an update:

The sorority sister tested positive. A friend that was with the sorority sister last Friday also tested positive. DD and a housemate went out to dinner with the sorority sister last Wednesday and both tested negative. One housemate who saw the girl briefly on Friday is still waiting for her test results (edit - she got negative results). Hopefully she’s negative too because she and DD share a bathroom at their house. It seems DD just missed the infectious exposure period and/or kept enough distance - thank goodness. I think she and her friends are going to be even more careful after this experience.
 
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Well the school that had over 100 test positive has now over 300 and is sending all students home and doing all online classes for the rest of the semester.
I just got an email yesterday that my ds's school is going to start testing, I assume in response to the news about that other school.
Also my ds's roommate just moved in to his room. It was a phased move in and he was scheduled to move in last weekend but he was in a dorm on campus where they are housing the students who are in quarantine. I am waiting to here whether this kid had it or if it was just a precaution but I'm guessing that if he doesn't offer the info to my ds there is no way for me as a parent to find out.
 
Well the school that had over 100 test positive has now over 300 and is sending all students home and doing all online classes for the rest of the semester.
I just got an email yesterday that my ds's school is going to start testing, I assume in response to the news about that other school.
Also my ds's roommate just moved in to his room. It was a phased move in and he was scheduled to move in last weekend but he was in a dorm on campus where they are housing the students who are in quarantine. I am waiting to here whether this kid had it or if it was just a precaution but I'm guessing that if he doesn't offer the info to my ds there is no way for me as a parent to find out.

You are correct. Unless he chooses to tell you, he is protected by privacy laws.. The best you can hope is that if someone tests positive, contact tracers will notify DS to quarantine... though the specifics will probably not be shared
 
Better to struggle through difficult classes online but have some security about where you're living and who you're with and exposed to.
It's a lonely life, without a doubt. But my kid is safe and not always looking over his shoulder for the 'rona. Odds are most students will be home this semester, sooner than later, anyway.
 
Well the school that had over 100 test positive has now over 300 and is sending all students home and doing all online classes for the rest of the semester.
I just got an email yesterday that my ds's school is going to start testing, I assume in response to the news about that other school.
Also my ds's roommate just moved in to his room. It was a phased move in and he was scheduled to move in last weekend but he was in a dorm on campus where they are housing the students who are in quarantine. I am waiting to here whether this kid had it or if it was just a precaution but I'm guessing that if he doesn't offer the info to my ds there is no way for me as a parent to find out.

Do you get a refund on room and board?
 
Just spoke to my friend whose son is at Yale. They have mandatory testing for all students twice a week. Now that's serious business.

Harvard is similar. 3 times a week for students living on campus (but less than 40% of the undergraduate college is living on campus right now and are all spread out), 2 times a week for students living off campus that have to be on campus for some reason or another more than once a week and faculty and staff working on campus in close contact with students, once a week for any other faculty or staff working on campus more than 4 hours a week and any off campus students who come on campus once a week. They just got approved to use a self administered test to cut down on everyone having to go to testing sites so often.
 
Just moved DD in this weekend. The dining seems to be an issue. They are waiting in long lines to get limited options of prepackaged grab and go food. They can eat socially distanced in an outdoor tent which is sometimes not available. Last night she ate her dinner sitting on the curb since the tables were closed off and someone told her she needed her mask on there. It’s a long walk back to the dorm to eat. Parents are driving back to campus to bring their students food. For what we are paying for dining, this seems crazy. They can’t even toast a bagel. I get that they can’t do self service but other colleges are offering more and serving it to avoid self service. How are your students’ schools handling this?
 
DS’s has some limited seating in the dining hall, for which they have to make reservations! Other than that, the main dining hall is the same limited grab and go you described.

But they have also beefed-up take-out stations in other locations around campus - the little coffee shop, the refreshment stand in the currently unused sports facility, etc.
 
DD21's school is testing twice a week. No seating in dining hall. They are encouraging kids to eat outside, but that won't last too long as they're in Maine and it will get cold soon. DD said the food is good, but understandably fewer options are available compared to past years. She said she's fine with it,

DS19's school is only testing if you have symptoms. There is seating in dining hall, but only single, spaced seats - so you eat alone. They've also given every student a portable nylon chair in a carry bag to encourage outdoor eating and safe socializing. He said the food options and lines were not great at first, but they've added more items to the menu. Also the lines are not long now. It was probably a combination of new students not being aware of other dining halls/take out places and everyone trying to stay 6 ft apart in line.
 
Just moved DD in this weekend. The dining seems to be an issue. They are waiting in long lines to get limited options of prepackaged grab and go food. They can eat socially distanced in an outdoor tent which is sometimes not available. Last night she ate her dinner sitting on the curb since the tables were closed off and someone told her she needed her mask on there. It’s a long walk back to the dorm to eat. Parents are driving back to campus to bring their students food. For what we are paying for dining, this seems crazy. They can’t even toast a bagel. I get that they can’t do self service but other colleges are offering more and serving it to avoid self service. How are your students’ schools handling this?
$5000 for a bag lunch with an apple.
 

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