Disney World needs to reopen and STAY OPEN

[kaytieeldr]

Gov. Newsom (CA) managed to procure PPE and vents (even figuring out how to get old ones fixed) without the federal government stepping in and he runs the most populous state in the nation.

Governor Baker managed to provide PPE for Massachusetts, which the Federal government hijacked. That's why, when Baker was successful getting PPE from China with the help of the Patriots, trucks were escorted by police from New York to Boston.

 

[pahoben]

Major mistakes were made by the CDC, but it's not right to lump the NIH in with them.

I disagree. This is the third novel Coronavirus variant in the last 20 years and widely accepted at the time of SARS that these viruses have a very high risk profile. As SARS phased down Coronavirus research lost all NIH funding (including vaccines) and those funds returned to their extremely well funded HIV research program. With an NIH budget of $40 billion/year it was unwarranted to cancel funding of Coronavirus research.

 

[Boardwalkbrats]

Typically the US has deaths of 2.8 million/year-the US has a large population (I haven’t checked but likely third in the world after China and India). There are an estimated 10 million people in the US that are immune compromised and always at high risk of dying from respiratory infection be it viral, bacterial, fungal, etc. There has never been a suggestion to lockdown the healthy population to protect these individuals. It seems to me that this lockdown didn’t arise fundamentally from an altruistic desire to protect others but from personal fear of infection and that fear fanned by the media.

The last estimate I saw was 30,000 deaths in Medicare certified nursing homes. The policy of sending known positive cases to nursing homes had a material impact on the death rates.

The ICU’s overflowing narrative was always based on a very small number of hospitals. This is clearly seen by lack of use of the Naval hospital ships and temporary hospitals that were constructed and not used in many cities.,

Someone mentioned H1N1 as resulting in less deaths than this virus. H1N1 was more deadly for children and young healthy adults rather than older individuals and so the total lost life expectancy from H1N1 is high compared to the high risk population for this virus. Hong Kong flu had a higher number of deaths than this virus.
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Great points on influenza in general. The population most likely to get seriously ill is young people and the older population as well as immunocompromised people. This virus with few exceptions seems to not be as serious in our younger population. That is a good thing.

Here is a video of Fauci in 2009 stating that school will be restarting without an H1N1 vaccine and unfortunate that children are dying from the virus

https://www.c-span.org/video/?290959-4/infectious-disease-prevention
Thank goodness there isn’t a cable news channel that is based on showing sad deaths in the US around the clock (and there are always sad deaths around the clock). Many people would be psychologically immobilized by the constant reminder that life is transient.

 

[dvcgirl67]

I know how you feel Boardwalkbrats....kind of. I feel the same about a news channel that is exclusively focused on showing the death of statues over human beings. I wish that wasn't happening either.

 

[Boardwalkbrats]

No I didn't, I was just sharing my story and what has reinforced me to be more careful. My risk level revolves around the fact that being careful seems better than not. It's not hurting my family and I to wear masks and avoid eating at restaurants, hanging out at BBQ's etc. We do our part, but there are a lot of entitled people losing it when asked to just be careful. The mask issue is ridiculous for instance, nothing like inconveniencing people.

I don’t wear a mask except for when in surgery. I’m sure there will be much consternation directed my way.

 

[tcufrog]

Here's my summary of the OP's post:

Give me Disney or give me death!!!!!

When I was a college librarian I would tell students that Wikipedia is fine for a bar bet but shouldn't be trusted for anything more important than that.

 

[dvcgirl67]

I don’t wear a mask except for when in surgery. I’m sure there will be much consternation directed my way.

So....brave?

 

[Boardwalkbrats]

There's no way to construe this as a "win". I understand that the idea initially was to stay home to prevent our hospital systems from being overrun. We did that in the Northeast, barely. Because the south opened too soon, it looks like we're going to see that wave crest again in certain southern cities and counties. The hospitals are beginning to fill just from the sheer number of cases. We're 4% of the world's population and currently represent 25% of the deaths. Those are the facts. There's no way to B.S. Jedi-mind trick or spin this into even a "mostly okay" response as the administration repeatedly tries to do. Here in NJ, our Governor let us now that our R0 is now above 1.0. The main culprit appears to be New Jersyans traveling to hot spots around the country and bringing the virus back with them. I have a young knucklehead cousin who did just this a couple of weeks ago. It's just a huge mess. I sure wish it wasn't, but unfortunately it is.

Well that certainly is your perspective, I don’t know that I believe Chinas numbers and suspect they may be much higher than reported. But in the end really doesn’t matter. To be honest I have not looked at world stats in too much detail. Still see it as mostly okay. On that we will live the life’s we were going to agreeing to disagree.

Stay safe up there.

 

[dvcgirl67]

Well that certainly is your perspective, I don’t know that I believe Chinas numbers and suspect they may be much higher than reported. But in the end really doesn’t matter. To be honest I have not looked at world stats in too much detail. Still see it as mostly okay. On that we will live the life’s we were going to agreeing to disagree.

Stay safe up there.

Thanks so much for the warm thoughts. I'll do just that. I can tell you haven't been paying attention to what's happening in the world, but stay safe...wherever you are.

 

[Boardwalkbrats]

So....brave?

Wow you just can’t help yourself can you. It must be wonderful being so all knowing and smug. You know little to nothing about me and speak as if you are an authority.

Again have a great life, I wish you good health and happiness.

 

[dvcgirl67]

Wow you just can’t help yourself can you. It must be wonderful being so all knowing and smug. You know little to nothing about me and speak as if you are an authority.

Again have a great life, I wish you good health and happiness.

You're pretty smug...in case you haven't noticed. You're bringing the snark pretty hard.

But....I wish you the best as well. Seriously, I mean it. No hard feelings. Blessings and good health to you and yours.

 

[Boardwalkbrats]

You're pretty smug...in case you haven't noticed. You're bringing the snark pretty hard.

But....I wish you the best as well. Seriously, I mean it. No hard feelings. Blessings and good health to you and yours.

I do apologize if I came off snarky and smug, am trying to fix that in me. I apparently still have a lot of work to do.

 

[dvcgirl67]

I do apologize if I came off snarky and smug, am trying to fix that in me. I apparently still have a lot of work to do.

Thanks, and me too. No harm meant. Be well.

 

[georgina]

I don’t wear a mask except for when in surgery. I’m sure there will be much consternation directed my way.

OK, I'll provide some. PLEASE tell us where you work so we can avoid going there

 

[pahoben]

If they erected statues of Boardwalkbrats with Luke Skywalker and dvcgirl67 with Darth Vader

Thanks, and me too. No harm meant. Be well.

If they erected statues of Boardwalkbrats with Luke Skywalker and dvcgirl67 with Darth Vader in Galaxy’s Edge then I doubt anyone would try to tear them down.

Don’t weaken you two, it is absolutely required now to demonize anyone that sees the world differently. Physical diversity is cherished but mental diversity is unacceptable.

 

[dvcgirl67]

If they erected statues of Boardwalkbrats with Luke Skywalker and dvcgirl67 with Darth Vader

If they erected statues of Boardwalkbrats with Luke Skywalker and dvcgirl67 with Darth Vader in Galaxy’s Edge then I doubt anyone would try to tear them down.

Don’t weaken you two, it is absolutely required now to demonize anyone that sees the world differently. Physical diversity is cherished but mental diversity is unacceptable.

Ok, but if you wouldn't mind putting a mask on my statue....I'd really appreciate it.

 

[pahoben]

Ok, but if you wouldn't mind putting a mask on my statue....I'd really appreciate it.

LOL

Agreed

 

[hertamaniac]

Looks like a go for Saturday.

In a statement on Tuesday, Disney’s Chief Medical Officer, Dr. Pamela Hymel, said new requirements from temperature checks, to face coverings and extra sanitation would enable guests to enjoy Disney World “responsibly.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...pening-is-on-track-for-saturday-idUSKBN248301

 

[kaytieeldr]

I don’t wear a mask except for when in surgery. I’m sure there will be much consternation directed my way.

Good for you? Please stay far, far away from me everybody not living in your household.

 

[Boardwalkbrats]

OK, I'll provide some. PLEASE tell us where you work so we can avoid going there

Good one.