Mask mandates being lifted in some places

[TLSnell1981]

no just a whitehead. yuk! I was talking about synthetic masks like those sold at Disney etc.. lol

I've seen some with cystic acne get triggered...hormones, bacteria and oily skin. It's awful.

 

[VandVsmama]

Isn't he the same guy that told us masks would not do anything to stop the spread?

Yep!

 

[tvguy]

Yes it has. That's been my biggest issue since day one. I will never forget the sense of dread I had when we were being told that masks would not protect us against this thing. It was scary! I just assumed they were starting a panic so they back peddled and changed their tune. Media at it's finest.

Oh please, no more media cheap shots. We have been struggling to find the best, most accurate information for nearly a year. Unfortunately, a virus is running the show, and the virus hasn't agreed with the most knowledgeable sources we could find. Also a bit put off by the fact that many today will take the word of someone with no knowledge of the situation just because it was posted on Facebook, Twitter or Instagram. Off my soap box.

 

[disneygirlsng]

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Minimum 19.5% oxygen. CO2, maximum levels over an 8 hour exposure is 0.5%. 3% for 10 minute exposure.

The past 2 weeks we've had an ambulance in the plant twice from people passing out. Our manufacturing environment is consistently 20.2% and 0.2% for CO2. I just realized the meter doesn't show units. That would also be in percentages.

The Occupational Safety and Health Administration, OSHA, determined the optimal range of oxygen in the air for humans runs between 19.5 and 23.5 percent.

Serious side effects can occur if the oxygen levels drop outside the safe zone. When oxygen concentrations drop from 19.5 to 16 percent, and you engage in physical activity, your cells fail to receive the oxygen needed to function correctly. Mental functions become impaired and respiration intermittent at oxygen concentrations that drop from 10 to 14 percent; at these levels with any amount of physical activity, the body becomes exhausted. Humans won't survive with levels at 6 percent or lower.

https://sciencing.com/minimum-oxygen-concentration-human-breathing-15546.html

What OSHA standards and exposure guidelines apply? OSHA has established a Permissible Exposure Limit (PEL) for CO2 of 5,000 parts per million (ppm) (0.5% CO2 in air) averaged over an 8-hour work day (time-weighted average orTWA.) The American Conference of Governmental Industrial Hygienists (ACGIH) recommends an 8- hour TWA Threshold Limit Value (TLV) of 5,000 ppm and a Ceiling exposure limit (not to be exceeded) of 30,000 ppm for a 10-minute period. A value of 40,000 is considered immediately dangerous to life and health (IDLH value). The TLVs are intended to minimize the potential for asphyxiation and undue metabolic stress.

https://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/wcm/c...4-9d2615f376e0/Carbon-Dioxide.pdf?MOD=AJPERES

Of course, I am vocal about how masks are causing problems, but yet I am a science denier. That above is science, the science I practice in annual confined space training and measuring air quality several times a month for the past 26 years. No one wants to listen to people who are against the masks though, because, you know, we're labeled as science deniers by those who only read one thing and are told by the MSM what science is. It's easy to be scared of what they tell you to be scared of and turn your shoulder to anything that goes against what they say and just make fun of those against the masks and call them science deniers.

You all can keep laughing at me as you do in threads all over this forum. I'm sure it makes folks feel better doing that because, you know, everyone has so much compassion and empathy, but only if you wear your mask.

It is a proven fact that masks do not lower O2 saturation nor do they increase CO2 intake. I deal with this with Covid patients (and other lung-compromised patients) on a daily basis. Their O2 sats do not change at all with their masks on or off. And yes, people with sats that drop into the 50s just from rolling over in bed have no issues wearing a mask.

 

[disneygirlsng]

Oh please, no more media cheap shots. We have been struggling to find the best, most accurate information for nearly a year. Unfortunately, a virus is running the show, and the virus hasn't agreed with the most knowledgeable sources we could find. Also a bit put off by the fact that many today will take the word of someone with no knowledge of the situation just because it was posted on Facebook, Twitter or Instagram. Off my soap box.

Crazy concept how science changes when more information is known. Some people are just mind-blowing. But I guess people aren't usually used to the scientific process playing out right in front of them. But it's a pretty simple concept.

 

[Tattylou]

I live just outside of Boston- everyone still wearing masks everywhere (except outside). I get my second shot tomorrow. I’ll still wear my mask if it is the expectation. Around here it seems you might be judged for not wearing a mask in a store or business bc it is almost 100% compliance inside places.

 

[Kitty 34]

7
Minimum 19.5% oxygen. CO2, maximum levels over an 8 hour exposure is 0.5%. 3% for 10 minute exposure.

The past 2 weeks we've had an ambulance in the plant twice from people passing out. Our manufacturing environment is consistently 20.2% and 0.2% for CO2. I just realized the meter doesn't show units. That would also be in percentages.

The Occupational Safety and Health Administration, OSHA, determined the optimal range of oxygen in the air for humans runs between 19.5 and 23.5 percent.

Serious side effects can occur if the oxygen levels drop outside the safe zone. When oxygen concentrations drop from 19.5 to 16 percent, and you engage in physical activity, your cells fail to receive the oxygen needed to function correctly. Mental functions become impaired and respiration intermittent at oxygen concentrations that drop from 10 to 14 percent; at these levels with any amount of physical activity, the body becomes exhausted. Humans won't survive with levels at 6 percent or lower.

https://sciencing.com/minimum-oxygen-concentration-human-breathing-15546.html

What OSHA standards and exposure guidelines apply? OSHA has established a Permissible Exposure Limit (PEL) for CO2 of 5,000 parts per million (ppm) (0.5% CO2 in air) averaged over an 8-hour work day (time-weighted average orTWA.) The American Conference of Governmental Industrial Hygienists (ACGIH) recommends an 8- hour TWA Threshold Limit Value (TLV) of 5,000 ppm and a Ceiling exposure limit (not to be exceeded) of 30,000 ppm for a 10-minute period. A value of 40,000 is considered immediately dangerous to life and health (IDLH value). The TLVs are intended to minimize the potential for asphyxiation and undue metabolic stress.

https://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/wcm/c...4-9d2615f376e0/Carbon-Dioxide.pdf?MOD=AJPERES

Of course, I am vocal about how masks are causing problems, but yet I am a science denier. That above is science, the science I practice in annual confined space training and measuring air quality several times a month for the past 26 years. No one wants to listen to people who are against the masks though, because, you know, we're labeled as science deniers by those who only read one thing and are told by the MSM what science is. It's easy to be scared of what they tell you to be scared of and turn your shoulder to anything that goes against what they say and just make fun of those against the masks and call them science deniers.

You all can keep laughing at me as you do in threads all over this forum. I'm sure it makes folks feel better doing that because, you know, everyone has so much compassion and empathy, but only if you wear your mask.

Every week when I go for my infusion they always but that Pulse/Oxygen thing on my finger. Well, yesterday it was at a 93 when it usually is 96-98. So my nurse told me to take off my mask and within moments it went back up to 97. Possibly just a coincidence but doubt it. My lungs will be glad when the masks are gone.

 

[kimmar067]

no just a whitehead. yuk! I was talking about synthetic masks like those sold at Disney etc.. lol

...I wear mine every day at school.

 

[mefordis]

Every week when I go for my infusion they always but that Pulse/Oxygen thing on my finger. Well, yesterday it was at a 93 when it usually is 96-98. So my nurse told me to take off my mask and within moments it went back up to 97. Possibly just a coincidence but doubt it. My lungs will be glad when the masks are gone.

I understand O2 should not get below 95.

 

[Kitty 34]

I understand O2 should not get below 95.

I think that's why they had me take my mask off. I think the lowest I've been when at my infusions is 95. They wanted me to take some deep breaths which of course is rather difficult to do for me anyway let alone with me wearing a mask.

 

[disneygirlsng]

I understand O2 should not get below 95.

Ehh it varies. Usually 90-92 is more of the threshold of when to start having some concern. Above 95 is "normal", but I've had patients pretty much permanently in the mid-upper 80s even on supplemental O2 and that is their baseline for function. Patients with Covid that I've seen are regularly dropping into the 50s and 60s with even the slightest exertion (rolling onto side in bed, sitting up, etc). Which is terrifying and something I have never seen before, even with many patients that I've treated with severe lung disease/awaiting lung transplant. But as I stated in a previous post, the O2 sats never change with or without a mask on.

 

[Bianca and Bernard]

Masks are fine. I wear one all day, even when I'm working around the farm all day as I am in contact with other people. Not fun, but making it work.

It's my dry, cracked, painful hands from the constant washing and hand sanitizer that are driving me insane. My hands feel like sandpaper. For real, I could pick up a towel without use my fingers...like just velcroed to my palm.

CeraVe is really good for the cracked hands/feet issue. I do use the Psoriasis moisturizing cream daily, as it helps keep my problem at bay, but the other moisturizing creams they have are great.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

It is a proven fact that masks do not lower O2 saturation nor do they increase CO2 intake. I deal with this with Covid patients (and other lung-compromised patients) on a daily basis. Their O2 sats do not change at all with their masks on or off. And yes, people with sats that drop into the 50s just from rolling over in bed have no issues wearing a mask.

This is Dis Medical. We don't need any proven facts.

 

[Kitty 34]

Ehh it varies. Usually 90-92 is more of the threshold of when to start having some concern. Above 95 is "normal", but I've had patients pretty much permanently in the mid-upper 80s even on supplemental O2 and that is their baseline for function. Patients with Covid that I've seen are regularly dropping into the 50s and 60s with even the slightest exertion (rolling onto side in bed, sitting up, etc). Which is terrifying and something I have never seen before, even with many patients that I've treated with severe lung disease/awaiting lung transplant. But as I stated in a previous post, the O2 sats never change with or without a mask on.

Agree. I was showing one of my sisters how quick my O2 can drop with my Alpha 1. I went from 97 to 83 after dancing to Uptown Funk (4 min song). I was winded of course; my sister was having a heart attack!! I did get back up into the low 90s within a minute.

 

[mrodgers]

This is Dis Medical. We don't need any proven facts.

Post you quoted stated her claimed "facts" on her patients laying in a bed. I posted "fact" of what the actual reading is under a mask of which we are breathing in a work environment where it is hot, humid, and the worker's effort is far elevated climbing and running around and lifting heavy objects and jumping up and down on forklifts and in tractors and continuously bending over and over.... doing work.

I will go with the fact that if I read over 5000 PPM CO2 levels or under 195,000 PPM O2 levels I am required to GET THE EXPLICIT OUT of that area immediately. So, by all requirements, at work I need to GET THE EXPLICIT OUT of behind said mask immediately with levels of 180,000 PPM and 25,000 PPM.

 

[disneyseniors]

Exactly. Doctors wear them into a room and toss them for a fresh one every time they leave the room. Not one of us is doing anything close to that. Mine's in my purse or laying in my car. I constantly adjust it. It feels sooo nasty. I'm pretty sure we're keeping ourselves sick because of this. I mean to each their own, but for me it just seems like common sense.

I saw a video by the WHO director who said that masks are causing infections now. He didn't say whether they were just skin related or lung related. He did say it is time to put the masks away, they ae not needed. Who knows if he is right or wrong? Confusing contradictory stuff being put out all the time!

 

[porschegrl]

I saw a video by the WHO director who said that masks are causing infections now. He didn't say whether they were just skin related or lung related. He did say it is time to put the masks away, they ae not needed. Who knows if he is right or wrong? Confusing contradictory stuff being put out all the time!

Do you have a link?

 

[mefordis]

I saw a video by the WHO director who said that masks are causing infections now. He didn't say whether they were just skin related or lung related. He did say it is time to put the masks away, they ae not needed. Who knows if he is right or wrong? Confusing contradictory stuff being put out all the time!

That person is a conspiracy theorist.

 

[Pyotr]

I saw a video by the WHO director who said that masks are causing infections now. He didn't say whether they were just skin related or lung related. He did say it is time to put the masks away, they ae not needed. Who knows if he is right or wrong? Confusing contradictory stuff being put out all the time!

I hate masks but I don’t believe that is accurate.

 

[PrincessShmoo]

I saw a video by the WHO director who said that masks are causing infections now. He didn't say whether they were just skin related or lung related. He did say it is time to put the masks away, they ae not needed. Who knows if he is right or wrong? Confusing contradictory stuff being put out all the time!

Well, here's the CDC's guidance:

There's been a lot of back and forth throughout the pandemic with doctors recommending wearing N95 masks, but CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky is recommending the general public not to wear them.
https://abc7ny.com/n95-mask-cdc-recommendation-dr-rochelle-walensky-what-type-of-is-the-best/10092451/

And the WHO director's statement:
While speaking with Danish state news service DR on Feb. 21, Hans Kluge, MD, WHO's regional director for Europe, said he believed that COVID-19 would continue to be a major issue throughout the rest of this year. But, he said, outbreaks will be much easier to handle than they were in 2020 and would continue to lessen in severity, Turkish state news service Anadolu Agency reported. He went on to predict that because of this, the public health precautions that are currently in place could likely be safely removed by early 2022.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/just-said-covid-restrictions-wont-180326057.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9zZWFyY2gueWFob28uY29tLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJwknHnGVaW4YuOd9ucXOtTHYx08CqiG9ImQtG_WBJoV872Hv_RRRU-mXXtgnTfqm7fHtNUng7OK7EW99qQx_4PK0WOA0pawXe-Kkjn79KhHthh9o9TL1ptbFybVZDcvarXjh7MtZmxR6sI00F31eiZ-KzwDUR0bZGbb1SCNscL_